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Re: Legion-related June now August 2020 Solicitations and Images...SPOILERS
Nightcrawler #991495 08/23/20 10:35 PM
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Wow! That's a much more classic looking Dawnstar... interesting...

Re: Legion-related June now August 2020 Solicitations and Images...SPOILERS
Evolution Has Failed #991503 08/24/20 12:59 AM
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1996 (December) - Mango, Sensor, Umbra
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Mango, the fruitiest Legionnaire! smile

Sorry, couldn't resist, and also that is extra funny for me because when I was recnetly thinking about what post-37 (post-classic) Legionnaires might be worth mentioning in my earlier post, I was trying to remember Magno's name and couldn't remember... so thank you for the immediate reminder, with bonus hilarious typo to boot ! smile

haha no worries at all! I guess I may have been thinking of home when I typed it, we have some really tasty mangoes there wink

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Originally Posted by Evolution Has Failed
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1996 (December) - Mango, Sensor, Umbra
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Mango, the fruitiest Legionnaire! smile

Sorry, couldn't resist, and also that is extra funny for me because when I was recnetly thinking about what post-37 (post-classic) Legionnaires might be worth mentioning in my earlier post, I was trying to remember Magno's name and couldn't remember... so thank you for the immediate reminder, with bonus hilarious typo to boot ! smile

Heh, no worries. "Mango" comes easier for me, definitely, I come from a country that produces delicious mangoes wink

Re: Legion-related June now August 2020 Solicitations and Images...SPOILERS
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Looks like all but the Cham and Ferro Lad images are all from #9, not #8.

Re: Legion-related June now August 2020 Solicitations and Images...SPOILERS
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just read it. initial thoughts...



leaving some spoiler space for those who look at RECENT POSTS...








Story flow was marginally better than previous issues. At least now I feel there's some narrative cohesion.

Still feel the glacial pace though. Basically this issue was - Rimbor attacks, Legion fights back, President Brande gets mad and grills Cham, and the Legion gets put on trial. K.

Character moments? We start to get some more, but I still feel like everyone has the same personality: young, aggressive, kinda dumb.

So Mon-El is now a Kryptonian AND a descendant of Superboy. huh. I don't mind that twist, and it explains why Mon can be so immature (spending 1000 years in the Phantom Zone toughens you up). Still hating his constant avoidant hissy fits, though at least he had the grace to think he was being an idiot after breaking up with Tinya. Still don't like him, though. Tinya/Mon, why not, I have no issues with the new relationships in this series.

OK, Gim has the Threeboot origin, Brin has his usual origin. Next.

I've already commented on the previews re Jan, Nura, Projectra.

Hate that this Legion has basically zero concept of strategy or battle tactics or teamwork. Same old formula. Attack the enemy one by one, get trounced one by one. I mean, the preview pages basically show us THREE Legionnaires who coulda made a difference: Jan transmuting the Rimborians' armor, or Nura predicting their attack (Brainy rags on himself for not calculating the Rimborians' move, well what about our precog?!), or Jeckie casting an illusion. Nope, nada, zilch. I hate that we don't see the Legionnaires combining powers or anything like that; the Legion was, IMO, built on members working together, where even weaker members had a lot to contribute.

OK, so we know Ayla has (had?!, considering her injury?!) lightning powers still.

Dawny trying to rescue Wildfire. hint of a romance, or...?

I still worry that we didn't get to know enough Legionnaires this issue, to complete the set next one.

Still waiting to see who Green Skeleton person is.

Cos... I like him a bit better now, what with him calling his dad, and running back to join the battle. Also: apparently he's one of the heavy hitters now, considering so many thought to look for him?

overall: i like this a bit better than previous issue, but still not sold.

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I think I would've preferred a whole issue like the preview pages, with flashbacks to various Legionnaire auditions.

Anyway, we do get a fair number of tidbits about various members, but this is stuff we should've been getting a lot more of all along.

I like that they kept the threeboot background for Gim, but the attempt to replicate the "Micro Lad" shtick felt really weak.

I'm much more iffy on this version of Mon-El. The 1000 years in the Phantom Zone was pretty central to him as a character, so this is a pretty massive change. Plus, I'd rather see Laurel Kent or Klar Ken or Kent Shakespeare, etc., as super-descendants. Mon and Tinya actually make a lot of sense as a couple. We get a confirmation of her being from another dimension, but not much else.

Also, wasn't Mon-El supposed to be the new ruler of Rimbor after he beat Crav in #3?

I didn't quite understand how Wildfire was taken out. It seemed like the Rimborian vaccumed up the entire suit or something. Weird.

I'm not sure why we wasted a whole page on Rose revealing that she'd been around for a 1000 years, which the reader already knew.

The overall plot is as dull as could be. At least the Rimborian elite guard now has a name, "The Parliament of Rimbor", but I wish the individual members had names.

So, yeah, this version of the Legion continues to exist, but I can't say it's really doing much for me.

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No Thank You Evo (is that an acceptable nickname?) it was your interesting comments that inspired me to do this in the first place. The Baxter run feels like such a single whole piece in many ways that the 4/5 new members is a significant moment in it and I too was surprised that it happened so early on. As for Quislet and Tellus they were so different to the other members that I really enjoyed their presence. I do miss them but am not sure that their reappearance would be handled well. They were an integral part of the Baxter run and perhaps that is where they should stay. Not sure. Really good writers have done things I wouldn't have believed possible in the past so maybe. Nevertheless I am happy with the lineup Bendis has chosen and just wish the characterisation would hurry up a bit and be a bit more in depth, but maybe those are two contradictory desires. Still glad to see the new series and looking forward to it continuing.
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Thanks, Stile (and btw, you can call me Evo or whatever is easiest). I personally don't have much concern invested in the return of Gates (difficult to pull off just right, and any departure from "just right" could be really bad) or Tellus, I am just empathizing with those who might, I'd like to see everyone happy. I agree it would be great to see a bit more characterization, and there is certainly by necessity a trade-off between that and the number of characters introduced. But growing up reading the "classic" 1970s Legion, I am used to certain characters getting ignored for long periods, I just like knowing they MIGHT get featured. In the last few issues, in fact, I noticed they appeared to have attempted to show everyone, but completely forgot about Projectra and Sun Boy, the latter being pretty ironic since I just quoted his omission from post Zero-Hour as one of the things that lost me on that run. But again, we HAVE at least SEEN Sun boy, so I know he might pop up anytime.

And that I think is the key - we are now getting focus on a handful of legionnaires, we have to be patient and wait for those to play out and new ones to be highlighted - the fun is the anticipation of wondering who we will see spotlighted next.

ALSO, my universal comment about judging a monthly run (which I will make again because it has been years since the last time I stated this) is to consider the time gap effect - going back and reading a run all at once in succession often reads MUCH better than waiting 1 month between issues, and it is all too easy to get impatient and write off a book when the thing causing the impatience would have been a minor blip in an otherwise wonderful read when read in succession. I learned that the hard way....


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As a big Gates fan, who was there when he was imported into the Retroboot: the way I feel about this version so far, I wouldn't be sad at all if my "missing" favorites such as Gates, Kinetix, XS, Monstress, Kid Quantum II, Polar Boy, Shikari, Thunder were suddenly reintroduced.

All the Legionnaires so far have been only vaguely related to previous versions: names, powers. Can't even really judge re personalities.

so I know I will be able to separate them out emotionally and mentally.

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