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Re: Brian Bendis & Ryan Sook relaunch the LSH
ajohns2012 #974760 08/02/19 01:32 PM
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If it's an Invisible kid that Element Lad is reacting to, then Jacques might be there, leaving just the Lyle, Condo and Andy deaths as per Preboot. It shows a team that has had past casualties, when this Superboy joins.

Although if Kid Fate turns out to be Mask Man, then there will be a higher body count shortly.

If Bendis is building to a GDS that's close to the original, then Kid Fate may meet a messy end as powers are taken away.


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In the cover of millennium 2, there are more members shown which could be gates, polar boy, etc. Hopefully, XS will be included. gates is clearly shown in superman 9 plus another arthropod member with maybe 10 limbs.

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
New Word Balloon with Bendis.

Legion conversation begins around 43:00, but only lasts a few minutes. 1:23:00 is another part about Legion news that lasts a minute or so. There's a few other mentions here and there, but not a lot of Legion content in general.

Timber Wolf's look is based on the Darick Robertson's Wolverine designs. That is a Dr. Fate character and a Gold Lantern. 4-5 new characters were added for this new team.

The plans were to showcase some Legion news at SD Comic-Con, but he decided to go to Seth Meyers Late Show instead. frown


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So maybe we can just assume the ones whose identities are troubling us the most (Kid Fate, Gold Lantern, Skeleton Kid, and Catboy) are all new characters.

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New characters hey? Why not? The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe this version of the Legion doesn't care as much about the team member's power being "natural" and doesn't care if the power is based on a gimmick or accessory, etc. A hero is a hero, and bravery and commitment to a cause is more important than a technicality for enrollment into the Legion.

New team, new rules! I love it. smile


The more the merrier indeed. I am open to new characters, but I'm also a bit sad because I was hoping there was space for more "old" Legionnaires to show up.

Thoughts on some of the missing:

Poor Condo can't catch a break, but I'm still thinking he could be Skeleton Kid. Although I can see how Element Lad sort of makes him redundant (like with Mysa and Dragonmage)...

Although I like Lyle a bit better, Jacques would be nice too.

Poor Polar Boy! I really hope he makes it in this time. He can still have been a former Sub. Guy deserves a break.

And definitely holding out hop for Gates and XS, both great characters with great powers.

And Kinetix and Kid Q II of course still wink

Tyroc would be cool too, but hopefully they just leave him with more traditional sonic powers like in the Retroboot.

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Originally Posted by colonyofcells
In the cover of millennium 2, there are more members shown which could be gates, polar boy, etc. Hopefully, XS will be included. gates is clearly shown in superman 9 plus another arthropod member with maybe 10 limbs.


could 10-limb member be Tellus?

although could also be Cham using his shapeshifting...

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It could also be...

Jimmy Olsen as Hat Lad (don't rule out it being him under Nabu's helm, even if the gender appears different.)
Catspaw turns out to be a Beast Boy - more Gar Logan than the old Legion version.
Quislet possessing something and giving it lots of arms.
Chameleon Girl. Both she and Cham were members in v6/7


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I love that idea, too!

He's *armed and dangerous*!

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I will look at the comic, but honestly everything is to different and weird for me to support. This will most certainly be the only Legion series I wont own. Best wishes to those who like it. It's just not for me. I'm too old and jaded to adjust from this part of my childhood. I would rather the Legion remain a distant memory.


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Originally Posted by Phantom Girl
I will look at the comic, but honestly everything is to different and weird for me to support. This will most certainly be the only Legion series I wont own. Best wishes to those who like it. It's just not for me. I'm too old and jaded to adjust from this part of my childhood. I would rather the Legion remain a distant memory.

Feel pretty much the same way but i will give it a try.

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I would encourage everyone who can to follow this new version of the Legion. Exercise your freedom while you still can.
My caregivers disapprove of my interest in comic books, and I will not be allowed to spend my hard-earned money on such frivolities.
Perhaps if it comes out as a Trade Paperback in the future, I can borrow it from the library.
(They also disapprove of my personal paracosms, imagining it to be unhealthy for me to live there so much of the time. But die gedanken sind frei).

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Originally Posted by John_Robert_Roberts
I would encourage everyone who can to follow this new version of the Legion. Exercise your freedom while you still can.
My caregivers disapprove of my interest in comic books, and I will not be allowed to spend my hard-earned money on such frivolities.
Perhaps if it comes out as a Trade Paperback in the future, I can borrow it from the library.
(They also disapprove of my personal paracosms, imagining it to be unhealthy for me to live there so much of the time. But die gedanken sind frei).


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Bryan Hitch confirmed that the Lantern is "not yellow", so I think the Golden Lantern predictions are correct.


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This might be higher resolution (i got it from previewsworld): imgur image of 2 covers together:

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Now that we have a clearer look at costumes, it looks more likely that the other mysterious golden girl with staff is Mysa (behind Kamandi ‘s arm),

that pinkish girl (below Booster) is Jeckie,

and purple hair girl (below Shady) could be Vi (many other Legionnaire costumes and reminiscent of past ones, and Vi wore green for a while...), but i’m still hoping for Kinetix due to all the green...!

and purple girl in white (below Chuck) has armbands that remind me of Tinya...

which would account for pretty much all of the Preboot females, as we already have Imra, Lu, Ayla, Nura, Tasmia also covered and no Supergirl in the Legion

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I reckon you're right IB, those glowy discs around MaybeTinya's waist and the shoulder cutouts remind me of Phantom Girl's costume from the 70s/80s too...Vi and especially Jeckie look way like them too.

I say you're also probably right about MaybeMysa too, although I kinda hope she's someone else if we've got a Dr Fate as well

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yeah, i'm still wondering why we would have two magical beings in the Legion.

Maybe golden girl Mysa is Kinetix, then? I've been guessing Mysa because the dress looks a bit like White Witch's costume when she joined up... and the color scheme is white-ish too. and of course I'm biased and hoping for Kinetix somewhere wink

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How are they going to explain the sudden pigment change from light to dark in the case of the Ranzz twins? Superman #11 is set to come out next month and it clearly shows Garth as "Caucasian" in appearance.

Also, there were those promo costume sketches that were released in segments to the public …. Garth, again is light skinned as is Ayla.

I think one artist draws them this way, and another artist draws them that way. Or is it the colorist that's to "blame"?? LOL

I'm cool with whatever is the final decision for the twins' skin colour, but I guess I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to The Founders and their look. I think it's important to canon that they, at least, appear instantly recognizable.


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Originally Posted by Catonyx
How are they going to explain the sudden pigment change from light to dark in the case of the Ranzz twins? Superman #11 is set to come out next month and it clearly shows Garth as "Caucasian" in appearance.

Also, there were those promo costume sketches that were released in segments to the public …. Garth, again is light skinned as is Ayla.

I think one artist draws them this way, and another artist draws them that way. Or is it the colorist that's to "blame"?? LOL

I'm cool with whatever is the final decision for the twins' skin colour, but I guess I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to The Founders and their look. I think it's important to canon that they, at least, appear instantly recognizable.

Most likely will be changed on the cover once it comes out. Promo covers are changed all the time.

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Lightning Lad’s costume looks (from memory) exactly like the one Cress Williams wears in ‘Black Lightning’. I still think that race change was a really bad decision. And obviously a rushed one considering Ayla clearly has her old Caucasian appearance there but has been colored darker to match Garth anyway.

I find Matter-Eater-Lad to be one of the more intriguing members of this new team for some reason.

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Originally Posted by Blacula
Lightning Lad’s costume looks (from memory) exactly like the one Cress Williams wears in ‘Black Lightning’. I still think that race change was a really bad decision. And obviously a rushed one considering Ayla clearly has her old Caucasian appearance there but has been colored darker to match Garth anyway.



I agree with you on all that Blacula. I also just don't get why the need to make the Ranzz twins a darker skin tone with this iteration of the Legion. If you wanted to make them more "authentically alien", why pick a colour that resembles a typical south Asian hue? Why not a golden hue, or a yellow one? I know, I know ….. the artist has given many of the previously Caucasian Legionnaires new skin colours (pink, light green, gold, etc) , by why change everyone??

Maybe the creators are trying to parallel what is happening in some of today's global communities with this shift in race equality? Speculation on my part.

I'm sure all will be explained in due time.

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Seriously... Who buy The Legion comic books? Real people of the planet Earth . And so.... why to change the skin color of the iconic characthers previously causasian.
The classic Legion always has diversity....

Caucasian Legionnaires: Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, Triplicate Girl, Phantom Girl, Sun Boy, Colossal Boy, Bouncing Boy, Invisible Kid, Matter Eater Lad, Element Lad, Ultra Boy, Mon-El, Superboy, Supergirl. Light Lass, Shriking Violet, Star Boy, Dream Girl, Projectra, Timber Wolf, Chemical King, White Witch, Polar Boy, Night Girl, Kinetix

Afroamerican Legionnaires : Ferro Lad (The original idea), Tyroc, Invisible Kid 2, Kid Quantum, XS, Gear

Asian Legionnaires : Karate Kid, Dragonmage, Catspaw, Harmonía

Native american Legionnaire ; Dawnstar

Alien Legionnaires ; Chameleon Boy, Brainiac 5, Shadow Lass, Infectious Lass, Blok, Tellus, Quislet, Comet Queen, Chameleon Girl, Gates, Monstress, Veilmist, Kono, Lamprey, Crystal Kid, Nightwind.

I don't want a purple skin Phantom Girl or a Green skin Element Lad, but I can accept an asian Cosmic Boy or afroamerican Bouncing Boy, because are like the real people.
If the creators wants more alien legionnaires put new characters in the team..but not change the beloved ones of a lifetime...


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When I saw an earlier group shot, it seemed to me that there was an absence of a heavy hitter black male character. I had expected it to be Star Boy, after the threeboot, and was a little surprised to see him a metallic sort of being (Captain Atom tie ins?) Then I wondered if there would be a James Cullen Kid Quantum. There just seemed to be a diversity gap there.

Garth would fill that role, and I thought that the skin change was going form black to Caucasian, explaining that gap. I'd have probably preferred it to have been Star Boy or Kid Quantum, simply to get away from the noted electricity powerset. In this iteration, Cosmic Boy could have been black and Lightning Lad and Lass Asian, if they'd wanted.


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