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Um well, depends on whether you want separate entries for Wildfire and for his two component beings, no? I think that's the issue/question that you are raising, rather than whether Atom'x should be counted as honorary or not.

But if Atom'x and Blast-Off are the same as Wildfire, then why bother listing Atom'x and Blast-Off separately? Furball does not get a separate entry from Timber Wolf. Why should Wildfire/Atom'x/Blast-Off be treated differently?

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Um well, depends on whether you want separate entries for Wildfire and for his two component beings, no? I think that's the issue/question that you are raising, rather than whether Atom'x should be counted as honorary or not.

But if Atom'x and Blast-Off are the same as Wildfire, then why bother listing Atom'x and Blast-Off separately? Furball does not get a separate entry from Timber Wolf. Why should Wildfire/Atom'x/Blast-Off be treated differently?


Wildfire aka Drake Burroughs is one character.
Jahr-Drake Ningle & Randall Burroughs (aka Drake's brother) are different characters and a different Wildfire.
Timber Wolf aka Furball aka Brin Londo are the same character.
But, that's just my reading… everyone is free to make their own membership list!

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The only issue I have with that is, you're saying Atom'x became a Legionnaire as the new Reboot Wildfire. So... why should Blast-Off and Atom'x be listed separately if they gained membership as Reboot Wildfire anyway?

And if Atom'x and Blast-Off are different from Wildfire... then we've already established that Atom'x wasn't explicitly listed as getting honorary membership. And if they are different, then Wildfire's membership cannot be used to say that Atom'x was also a member..

Oh, and Reboot Atom'x shouldn't be considered Wildfire's brother. Different boots, different characters, and no family relationship confirmed in the Reboot.

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I want to get a little ahead of this, so this is what I've come up with so far for the first Legion era (I'm going to tackle each era individually this time to avoid the problem that I had before about not having wiggle room to make significant changes). I'm adding powers as that seems to be a key Legion identifier. Let me know if you would describe anyone's differently. I still don't want to list whether anyone is deceased/retired/etc. as all of that is subject to change at the whim of a creative team (Ferro Lad with Shadow Lass in Batman ’66 Meets the Legion of Super-Heroes, for example).

For the Legion up to Magic Wars (minus the Adult Legion stories) -
Cosmic Boy
(AKA Rokk Krinn of Braal)
Founding Member
Active: Adventure Comics #247, 1958
Magnetism

Lightning Lad
(AKA Garth Ranzz of Winath; Lightning Boy)
Founding Member
Active: Adventure Comics #247, 1958
Electricity

Saturn Girl
(AKA Imra Ardeen-Ranzz of Titan)
Founding Member
Active: Adventure Comics #247, 1958
Telepathy

Triplicate Girl
(AKA Lournu Durgo-Taine of Cargg; Duo Damsel; Duplicate
Damsel; Duplicate Girl)
Active: Action Comics #276, 1961
Splits into Additional Bodies

Phantom Girl
(AKA Tinya Wazzo of Bgtzl; Phase)
Active: Action Comics #276, 1961
Intangibility

Chameleon Boy
(AKA Reep Daggle of Durla; various)
Active: Action Comics #267, 1960
Shapeshifting

Colossal Boy
(AKA Gim Allon of Earth)
Active: Action Comics #267, 1960
Giant Growth

Invisible Kid
(AKA Lyle Norg of Earth)
Active: Action Comics #267, 1960
Invisibility

Supergirl
(AKA Kara Zor-El of Argo City; Linda Lee Danvers; Satan Girl; Unknown Boy)
Joined: Action
Comics #276, 1961
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Brainiac 5
(AKA Querl Dox of Colu; Prince Projectur)
Joined: Action Comics #276, 1961
12th-Level Intelligence

Superboy
(AKA Kal-El of Krypton; Clark Kent; Superman; Marco Malok)
Joined: Adventure Comics #247, 1958
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Ultra Boy
(AKA Jo Nah of Rimbor; Gary Crane)
Active: Superboy #98, 1962
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability at a time

Legion of Super-Pets:
Krypto the Super Dog

(of Krypton; AKA Skip; Air Dale; Pal)
Animal Branch Member
Active: Adventure Comics #293, 1961
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Legion of Super-Pets:
Streaky the Super-Cat

Of Earth
Animal Branch Member
Active: Adventure Comics #293, 1961
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Legion of Super-Pets:
Super-Monkey

(AKA Beppo of Krypton)
Animal Branch Member
Active: Adventure Comics #293, 1961
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Legion of Super-Pets:
Super-Horse

(AKA Comet of Earth; "Bronco" Bill Starr; Biron the Bowman)
Animal Branch Member
Active: Adventure Comics #293, 1961
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability , Telepathy

Pete Ross
Of Earth
Honorary Member
Joined: Superboy #98, 1962

Star Boy
(AKA Thom Kallor of Xanthu; Sir Prize)
Active: Adventure Comics #282, 1961
Induce Mass to Increase Weight

Shrinking Violet
(AKA Salu Digby of Imsk)
Active: Action Comics #276, 1961
Shrinking

Sun Boy
(AKA Dirk Morgna of Earth; Saturn Lad)
Active: Action Comics #276, 1961
Heat and Light

Bouncing Boy
(AKA Chuck Taine of Earth)
Active: Action Comics #276, 1961
Inflation & Bouncing

Mon-El
(AKA Lar Gand of Daxam; Bobb Cobb; Marvel Lad; Legionaire Lemon; Green Lantern; Valor)
Joined: Adventure Comics #300, 1962
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Matter-Eater Lad
(AKA Tenzil Kem of Bismoll)
Joined: Adventure Comics #303, 1962
Digests any Material

Element Lad
(AKA Jan Arrah of Trom; Mystery Lad)
Joined: Adventure Comics #307, 1963
Transmutes Elements

Lightning Lass
(AKA Ayla Ranzz of Winath; Light Lass)
Joined: Adventure Comics #308, 1963
Electricity/Negates Gravity

Jimmy Olsen
(AKA Elastic Lad of Earth; Wolf Man; Human Porcupine; Giant Turtle Man; Fat Boy)
Honorary Member
Joined: Superman’s Pal, Jimmy Olsen #72, 1963
Elasticity/Various

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Stone Boy

(AKA Dag Wentim of Zwen)
Decline Membership:
Adventure Comics #315, 1963
Reserve Member
Active: Adventure Comics #319, 1964
Full Member
Active: 2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Transform to Inanimate Stone

Dream Girl
(AKA Nura Nal of Naltor; Miss Terious)
Joined: Adventure Comics #317, 1964
Precognition

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Polar Boy

(AKA Brek Banin of Tharr)
Reserve Member
Active: Adventure Comics #319, 1964
Full Member
Joined: Legion of
Super-Heroes #14, 1985
Cold Control

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Night Girl

(AKA Lydda Jath of Kathoon)
Reserve Member
Active: Adventure Comics #319, 1964
Full Member
Active: Action Comics #860, 2008
Superhuman Strength in Darkness

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Fire Lad

(AKA Stag Mavlen of Shwar)
Reserve Member
Active: Adventure Comics #319, 1964
Full Member
Active: 2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Breathes Fire

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Chlorophyll Kid

(AKA Ral Benem of Mardru)
Reserve Member
Active: Adventure Comics #319, 1964
Full Member
Active: 2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Manipulates Plant Growth

Dev-Em
of Krypton
(AKA Knave of Krypton; Superboy; David Emery of Titan; Mad Daxamite)
Decline Membersip: Adventure Comics #320, 1964
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Legion of Super-Pets:
Proty II

of Antares II
(AKA Weirdo
Legionnaire; Blockade Boy II; various)
Animal Branch Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #322, 1964
Shapeshifting & Telepathy

“False Pretenses Lad”
Expelled Member
Active: Adventure Comics #327, 1964
Unknown

Command Kid
(AKA Jeem Rehtu of Preztor)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #328, 1965
Hypnotic Illusions

Dynamo Boy
(AKA Vorm of the Pirate Planetoid)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #330, 1965
Ultra-Dynamic Energy/Various

Legion of Super-Villains:
Cosmic King

(AKA Laevar Bolto of Venus)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #331, 1965
Transmutes Elements

Legion of Super-Villains:
Saturn Queen

(AKA Eve Aries of Titan)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #331, 1965
Telepathy & Mind Control

Legion of Super-Villains:
Lightning Lord

(AKA Mekt Ranzz of Winath)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #331, 1965
Electricity

Murran Spies:
Size Lad

(AKA Aarl of Murra; Size Kid)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #337, 1965
Size Manipulation

Murran Spies:
Blackout Boy

(AKA Graah of Murra)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #337, 1965
Neutralizes Light

Murran Spies:
Magnetic Kid

(AKA Xaxan of Murra)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #337, 1965
Organic Attraction

Kid Psycho
(AKA Gnill Oprill of Hajor)
Reserve Member
Active: Superboy #125, 1965
Psycho-Force Shields

Princess Projectra
(AKA Projectra of Orando; Queen
Projectra; Sensor Girl)
Joined: Adventure Comics #346, 1966
Illusions

Nemesis Kid
(AKA Hart Druiter of Myar)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure Comics #346, 1966
Anything to Defeat a Single Opponent

Ferro Lad
(AKA Andrew Nolan of Earth)
Joined: Adventure Comics #346, 1966
Transmutes into Iron

Karate Kid
(AKA Val Armor of Earth)
Joined: Adventure Comics #346, 1966
Mastery of Personal Combat

Universo
(AKA Vidar of Earth; Green Lantern; Argus Oranx III, Earth President Kandro Boltax,
Vid-Gupta)
Expelled Member
Joined: Adventure
Comics #349, 1966
Hypnosis

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Color Kid

(AKA Ulu Vakk of Lupra)
Reserve Member
Active: Adventure Comics #351, 1966
Full Member
Active: 2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Color Changing

Insect Queen
(AKA Lana Lang of Earth)
Honorary Member
Active: Adventure
Comics #355, 1967
Insect Metamorphosis

Rond Vidar
(AKA Green Lantern of Earth)
Honorary Member
Active: Adventure Comics #360, 1967
Time Travel Expert Shadow Lass
(AKA Tasmia Mallor of Talok VIII)
Joined: Adventure Comics #366, 1968
Darkness

Chemical King
(AKA Condo Arlik of Phlon)
Joined: Adventure Comics #371, 1968
Catalyze Chemical Reactions

Timber Wolf
(AKA Brin Londo of Zuun; Lone Wolf)
Joined: Adventure Comics #371, 1968
Super-Human Strength, Speed, Heightened Senses & Claws

Renkil Kem
of Bismoll
Reserve Member
Active: Superboy #184, 1972
Digests any Material

Tharok
of Zadron
Temporary Leader
Active: Superboy #190, 1972
Enhanced Strength & Intelligence

Wildfire
(AKA Drake Burroughs of Earth; ERG-1)
Joined: Superboy #202, 1974
Energy Blasts & Manipulation

Anti-Lad
of 75th Century Earth
Presumed Member
Active: Superboy #204, 1974
Reflect Super-Powers

Tyroc
(AKA Troy Stewart
of Marzal)
Joined: Superboy #218, 1976
Sonic Manipulation

Dawnstar
of Starhaven
(AKA Neela; Bounty)
Joined: Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #226, 1977
Long Range Tracking

Blok
of Dryad
Joined: Superboy & the Legion of Super-Heroes #272, 1981
Super-Strength & Durability

Chameleon Girl
(AKA Yera Allon of Durla; Shrinking Violet; various)
Expelled Member
Infiltrated: Legion of Super-Heroes #285, 1982
Full Member
Membership revealed:
Action Comics #861, 2008
Shape-Changing

Invisible Kid II
(AKA Jaques Foccart of Earth)
Joined: Legion of Super-Heroes Annual #1, 1982
Invisibility

White Witch
(AKA Mysa Nal of Naltor; Hag; Black Witch)
Joined: Legion of Super-Heroes #294, 1982
Manipulate Magical Energies

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Porcupine Pete

(AKA Peter Dursin of Earth)
Reserve Member
Active: DC Comics Presents #59, 1983
Full Member
Membership revealed:
2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Projects quills

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Infectious Lass

(AKA Drura Sehpt of Somahtur)
Reserve Member
Active: DC Comics Presents #59, 1983
Full Member
Membership revealed:
2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Makes Individuals Sick

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Antennae Boy

(AKA Khfeurb Chee Bez of Grxy; Antenna Lad)
Reserve Member
Active: DC Comics Presents #59, 1983
Tune into Radio Waves from any Time Period

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Double-Header

(AKA Frenk/Dyvud Retzun of Janus)
Reserve Member
Active: DC Comics Presents #59, 1983
Body Split over Time

Magnetic Kid II
(AKA Poll Krinn of Braal)
Joined: Legion of Super-Heroes #14, 1985
Magnetism

Tellus
(AKA Ganglios of Hykraius)
Joined: Legion of Super-Heroes #14, 1985
Telepathy & Telekinesis

Quislet
(AKA Untranslatable
of Teall)
Joined: Legion of Super-Heroes #14, 1985
Possess & Transform Inorganic Matter

Mentalla
(AKA Delya Castil of Titan)
Posthumous Honorary Member
Membership revealed: ??? #?, 19??
Telepathy & Mind Control

Pocket Universe
Superboy

(AKA Kal-El of Krypton; Clark Kent)
Active: Superman #8, 1987
Flight, Super-Strength, Super-Vision, Super-Speed, Invulnerability

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Karate Kid II

(AKA Myg of Lythyl)
Membership revealed:
2995: The Legion of Super-Heroes Sourcebook, 1992
Mastery of Personal Combat

Legion of Substitute Heroes:
Comet Queen

(AKA Grava of Quaal-3)
Joined: Legion of Super-Heroes v7 #1, 2011
Space Flight & Comet Gas Extrusion

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Did a quick look over but i noticed nothing needing changing. Really looks good! The only thing i can even Think of is maybe Fortress Lad who went on to become their first HQ but even then he is a really iffy one. Really nice a lot of hard work and research done.

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Thanks! If I were to put Fortress Lad in I may wait and put him as a 5 Year Later retcon.

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Possibly agility for Timberwolf powers? It distinguishes him from the speed/strength of the others.


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I actually had that as his power and then used the description they had for him in the last incarnation of the book. I'll add Agility and remove "Claws" - that seems like an unecessary retroboot addition.

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Anyone have an issue number for Mentalla's posthumous membership?

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Beyond her statue being in the Hall of Heroes, I don't recall her even getting a membership.


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All the other members in the Hall of Heroes have some form of membership i think it's safe she is at least honorary.

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When did she appear in the Hall of Heroes? I'll use that issue number.

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Legion of super bloggers provided this image.

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That's from v3 #59. However, it might be that the person in question is actually a Giffen version of Triplicate Girl. A statue that's probably this person turns up in v4 #10. It looks to be another view of the statue that appeared with Ferro Lad and Superboy (take that Crisis!) in v4 #3. My guess is that all of these are Trips. No mention of her on the v4 #3 memorial either. She's not a statue in v4 Annual #3 either.

v3 #59 *does* have a statue of Proty indicating that non members *could* be in there.

The cover of v3 #59 has her as one of the ghosts or statues. As lots of these characters died after Lyle and Condo, it's open to argument if they got statues.

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No mention of a posthumous membership change in Who's Who entry or in 2995 Sourcebook timeline. She's not a statue in v 3 #31 (Kara is there - take that Crisis!)


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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
When did she appear in the Hall of Heroes? I'll use that issue number.

The first time i remember seeing her in the Hall of Heroes was in Who's Who in the Legion of Super-Heroes #5 (1988).

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Originally Posted by thoth lad
Legion of super bloggers provided this image.

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That's from v3 #59. However, it might be that the person in question is actually a Giffen version of Triplicate Girl. A statue that's probably this person turns up in v4 #10. It looks to be another view of the statue that appeared with Ferro Lad and Superboy (take that Crisis!) in v4 #3. My guess is that all of these are Trips. No mention of her on the v4 #3 memorial either. She's not a statue in v4 Annual #3 either.

v3 #59 *does* have a statue of Proty indicating that non members *could* be in there.

The cover of v3 #59 has her as one of the ghosts or statues. As lots of these characters died after Lyle and Condo, it's open to argument if they got statues.

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No mention of a posthumous membership change in Who's Who entry or in 2995 Sourcebook timeline. She's not a statue in v 3 #31 (Kara is there - take that Crisis!)


I assume Proty would have been awarded honorary membership after giving his life to revive Lightning Lad. No Beast Boy, No Wanderers are any other heroes that were allied with the Legion made it into the Hall of Heroes. Both proty and Mentalla gave their lives to save Legionnaires.

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smile My original post was going to have the "and Proty isn't even dead. ust ask Garth." having gone through v4 Annual 3.

Thanks Elvar. Mentalla was mentioned as being in there on a few sites, so I'm glad it popped up somewhere. That seems to be the issue.


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Thanks everyone! I'll list her as Posthumous Honorary Member citing Who's Who.

Should Proty I be given membership status too?

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
Thanks everyone! I'll list her as Posthumous Honorary Member citing Who's Who.

Should Proty I be given membership status too?

I think so, same as Mentalla even though he was later revealed to be inhabiting Lightning Lad's body. Both he and Mentalla have been seen in the Hall of Heroes all the way up through the last volume of Legion prior to Flashpoint and the New 52. But this is only my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Elvar
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Thanks everyone! I'll list her as Posthumous Honorary Member citing Who's Who.

Should Proty I be given membership status too?

I think so, same as Mentalla even though he was later revealed to be inhabiting Lightning Lad's body. Both he and Mentalla have been seen in the Hall of Heroes all the way up through the last volume of Legion prior to Flashpoint and the New 52. But this is only my opinion.


Where would you add him into the roster?

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Shortly after Sept 1963's Adventure #312 when she sacrificed herself?

It's a bit classier than, after the death of Karate Kid, the statue supplier saying that they've got a minimum order requirement and that the Legion will have to order in a few dead reservist staues to meet the criteria. smile


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I think I'll choose Adventure Comics #316, in which they create his memorial.

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Originally Posted by Nightcrawler
I think I'll choose Adventure Comics #316, in which they create his memorial.

Sounds good.

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Good choice Nighty.


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I have Proty (aka Proty I) as revealed to have been a member in LSH ANNUAL #3 (Aug 1992), and Proty II as revealed to be a member of the [Adult] LSH in SUPERMAN #165 (Nov 1963). Maybe someday Koko will be allowed to join… never thought of the "Pocket Universe" Superboy as a separate Superboy… hmmm… Different interpretations are fun to read!

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Is the Proty I revealed to have been a member in Annual 3 because that was when it was revealed that Proty I was really Garth? Therefore was really Lightning Lad, and a member, all along? It was one of the issues I skimmed when looking for statues. I didn't see Porty I explicitly see anything saying Proty I was a member there.


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Ann Hebistand: Beggars can't be choosers. smile
Ann Hebistand: Seriously, I'll support it no matter what.
Invisible Brainiac: I'm giving it a quick, light, welcoming pat-on-the-back hug, until I get to know it better smile
Lard Lad: There's no real info yet, right? Just some teases from Waid?
Ann Hebistand: The current EiC, Marie Javins, also said the Legion is coming back.
Gaseous Lad: Oh I had not heard that comment.
Ann Hebistand: Legion Idol 2025 is active in the Spaceopoly forum! Join the fun!
Invisible Brainiac: thank you, Annfie, so kind of you!
Ann Hebistand: Superman issue 28 has Darkseid's Legion. Scheduled for July. CalorieQueen
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