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Well, those would be your actual Legion issues as part of that Superboy 4 parter, so it would be mixed up a bit. Was one part in Action Comics and the other in Byrne's Superman? Can't recall, except I was missing a part for years.


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Not sure if I should have a say since I haven't been contributing recently, but I can add a bit of information. I know this era well since it was a couple of years into my big collecting period.

Legionnaires 3 has no direct connection or influence on the main LSH series apart from being set in this period so putting it in a separate read-thru works fine.

The Cosmic Boy mini-series is a bit different. Leaving for his 20th Century vacation with Lydda and their return are both referenced in the main book. The end of the mini-series leads directly into the end of LSH #36 and then into the "Superboy Finale". In fact it is because of Rokk's report on his trip that the Legion decides to visit Superboy. The story appears over the 4 issues LSH v3 #37, Superman v2 #8, Action Comics v1 #591, and LSH v3 #38. The effects of the story are long lasting and the direct cause of the later "Conspiracy" story arc.

Just to make things more complicated the CB mini-series also ties into Legends, DC's big crossover event for that year. The opening issue follows on from Legends #1 and #2, with CB appearing in 4 pages of #1 and mostly in the background of #2. While most of the story is readable without Legends, at least one relevant scene appears there.

So CB could be put into a separate reading list ( in fact I didn't read it until years later than the main series) but it is really designed to be slotted in.

Originally Posted by Fat Cramer
Or 16 issues, if we want to extend it to Sensor Girl becoming leader in #27.

Oh and one other thing, in LSH #27 Sensor Girl is not elected as Leader. Many thought that on first reading and it even had to be addressed in a later letter column, but she is actually being elected "for the third time in her career" as a member of the LSH following the revelation of her true identity. Element Lad continues on as Leader through to the next election in LSH #36.

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Originally Posted by stile
So CB could be put into a separate reading list ( in fact I didn't read it until years later than the main series) but it is really designed to be slotted in.


That's how I see this one.


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Not sure if I should have a say since I haven't been contributing recently...


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Originally Posted by stile
Oh and one other thing, in LSH #27 Sensor Girl is not elected as Leader. Many thought that on first reading and it even had to be addressed in a later letter column, but she is actually being elected "for the third time in her career" as a member of the LSH following the revelation of her true identity. Element Lad continues on as Leader through to the next election in LSH #36.


Something else else to look out for.


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Thanks for your input, stile. You certainly don't have to participate in the reviews to make suggestions or provide guidance about the issues. Ibby's input on how to deal with Crisis is also appreciated.

I just scan the issues when we're determining what to include in a volume and, knowing that Sensor Girl would be leader at some point, assumed it happened on that final page. Interesting that other people made the same mistake when the issue came out!

It looks like the consensus is to do LSH #13 - 20, break for Legionnaires 3, then return to Volume 22 for #21 - 27. (I'm more inclined to include #27 now since it isn't when Jeckie becomes leader, which would have been the start of a new period.)


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Though I've been disinclined to join the V3 "Archives" just because the mood hasn't hit (though I have recently read my Vol 12 & 13 Archives, plus S&LSH Vol 1 and part of Vol 2 HCs), I have found myself gearing up to re-read Crisis in the very near future. So if any of you are up for re-reading CoIE as mentioned, you'd likely have this poster as a participant in whatever form that discussion takes!


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Originally Posted by Paladin
Though I've been disinclined to join the V3 "Archives" just because the mood hasn't hit ...


Not even with the new member issue #14? hinty, hint, hint... Fickles is gonna post...


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Lardy, I extend you a warm welcome aboard The Good Ship Crisis on Infinite Earth's Re-Read.

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but I wanted to wait until I knew for certain that the library system had a copy of CoIE on its way for me, and also it took me a while to decide the format. If no one has any objections, I'd like to do the Crisis reviews as a new thread in Gy'mll's (placeholder title: "Crisis on Infinite Earths: The Re-Evaluation.") Meanwhile, the Legion-relevant scenes could be elaborated on in the Legion Re-Read threads in this forum.


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Originally Posted by Paladin
Though I've been disinclined to join the V3 "Archives" just because the mood hasn't hit (though I have recently read my Vol 12 & 13 Archives, plus S&LSH Vol 1 and part of Vol 2 HCs), I have found myself gearing up to re-read Crisis in the very near future. So if any of you are up for re-reading CoIE as mentioned, you'd likely have this poster as a participant in whatever form that discussion takes!


Same here, I'm not interested in a Preboot Legion reread BUT would gladly participate in a COIE one!

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Fines by me.

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I extend you a warm welcome aboard The Good Ship Crisis

Captain Cramer: Are you sure about this?
Purser Hebistand: Well, calling the last one Titanic didn't work out so well did it? Let's just set their expectations a bit lower this time round.


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Originally Posted by Ann Hebistand
Lardy, I extend you a warm welcome aboard The Good Ship Crisis on Infinite Earth's Re-Read.

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but I wanted to wait until I knew for certain that the library system had a copy of CoIE on its way for me, and also it took me a while to decide the format. If no one has any objections, I'd like to do the Crisis reviews as a new thread in Gy'mll's (placeholder title: "Crisis on Infinite Earths: The Re-Evaluation.") Meanwhile, the Legion-relevant scenes could be elaborated on in the Legion Re-Read threads in this forum.


Sounds good! Got my hardcover volume at the ready!

BTW, I also plan to include a review of the Legends of the DCU CoIE special that was published in '99 with a story that fits between CoIE #'s 4 & 5. I remember enjoying this book a lot when it came out and have been repeatedly irked that it hasn't been included as at least bonus material in all of these fancy "definitive" CoIE collections in the years since. (At least, though, it has been announced recently to be included in one of the upcoming CoIE Companion books coming out soon.)


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Originally Posted by Paladin

BTW, I also plan to include a review of the Legends of the DCU CoIE special that was published in '99 with a story that fits between CoIE #'s 4 & 5. I remember enjoying this book a lot when it came out and have been repeatedly irked that it hasn't been included as at least bonus material in all of these fancy "definitive" CoIE collections in the years since. (At least, though, it has been announced recently to be included in one of the upcoming CoIE Companion books coming out soon.)


oh good call. Lardy! I haven’t read the issue per se, but I’ve read the solicitation and a synopsis, and thought it was quite compelling. eager to read your thoughts on it

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Heads-up: next week should be the "Who Killed Laurel Kent?" annual. I can't get to it until Wednesday, anyone who wants to proceed earlier, go ahead.


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Thanks Cramer. I can't even find #16 let alone the annual. So, I may be a little later anyway.


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This actually synchs well for me, as I am occupied with a variety of things at the moment. I was already planning to skip that Annual because the only nice thing I can say about it is that I like Steve Lightle's new cover for the story's Tales of the Legion reprint.

See you all back at the Re-Reads next week, then. Thank you, Cramey.


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Just a heads up: After we review the next issue (# 23), I will be taking a break. Some issues in RL need attention, and I need to step back and recalibrate for awhile. I hope to return by the time one of the two issues I mentioned previously reaches No. 1 on my Top 25. (Still no guesses?)


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Originally Posted by Power Boy
NO


TODAY



I actually have access to my archives for the next two weeks ... and want to tag along!!!!!!!!!!!



Wow, 2013 Peebs was really a little too into the archives re read. Was I evil? Sorry EDEs.

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Is it possible to jump in at issue 23, I found it online rather than digging it out.

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
It's Adventure 24/7!


coolest post ever?

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Peebz, you can certainly jump in at any time.


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Originally Posted by Power Boy


Wow, 2013 Peebs was really a little too into the archives re read. Was I evil? Sorry EDEs.


I dropped out ages ago myself! Super-cool that others are continuing the re-read, though!

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Anyone can jump in anywhere, anytime. It's a magical timestream thing.

I see above that we were thinking of doing Legionnaires 3 after #20, but I blew right by it. Not too inspired by Legionnaires 3! I'd suggest we cover it after this volume finishes i.e. after #27.

Some of these issues have turned out to be better than I remembered, so Legionnaires 3 may surprise.

And HWW - we'll look forward to your return! Don't let the RL Monster gobble you up.

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I wasn't a huge fan of Legionnaires 3 either, so I'm not distraught at it being pushed back.

And like an Echo vs Echo Chamber Chet contest in the Alpine Valley of the Echoes, I'd like to reiterate that anyone should jump in with comments, memories or on specific plot points.


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I read most of 23 already ... so much art and so much text. These older books are so jam packed.

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^Sad commentary on the state of modern comics? smile


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