Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes The Archives Re-read Project Discussion Thread

In addition to Peebs Points* The first issue of Electric Warriors had as many pages as Baxter #23. But rather than pay for more of the main feature, they shoved in several pages of what looks to be a pretty dull run on Aquaman.


*Points of Peebs will be a new show on LWTV in the Spring!

Peebs Points sounds more to me like a feature that would have run in Direct Currents in the 70s when DC was desperately trying to recreate Stan Lee’s style.

Soon time for the next chapter in the re-reads. We were going to take a side trip to do Legionnaires 3, but not as an Archive, as a mini-series/extras thread.

The next re-read group would thus be: Legionnaires 3 (4 issues). There's an excursion into Booster Gold referred to in LSH #27, but I don't have those issues. If someone wants to review them, that's fine.

After Legionnaires 3, we'd start the next Archive, volume 22, which would include the 1986 Annual #2 (with Validus) and LSH # 28 - 35.

After that, the Cosmic Boy mini (4 issues) could be covered. LSH #36 has a scene which is the aftermath of that mini-series, so it should be covered before we begin Archive 23.

Comments, opinions, suggestions?

Sorry for chiming in so late, Cramey.

I'm fine with you all doing Legionnaires 3, but I don't own copies, and, TBH, it doesn't interest me enough to spend money on (even online.)

On a brighter note, I enjoyed discussing 25-27 so much that I flipped through the issues which immediately precede the Universo Project (which technically starts in #32,) and I saw more good stuff that I'd remembered, so I'm definitely in for Volume 22.

Agree about doing #36 before Cosmic Boy mini.

Legionnaires 3 is finished so next week we start Archive 22.

1986 Annual #2
LSH #28 - 35

All welcome to participate!

Count me in! "The Universo Project" at last -- YAY!

People are busy! Would anyone like to move the Archives Re-Read schedule to every two weeks, or leave it at weekly? I think it helps to aim for a specific schedule to keep the Re-Read moving forward, but we can certainly slow it down if participants would prefer that. Opinions?

I am flexible to the needs and wishes of the other participants, but here -- for what they're worth -- are my two cents:

I think we should keep it weekly for a few more weeks, and change the original plan -- following the Universo Project with the Cosmic Boy mini-series (which I don't own and have no real interest in reading) -- to instead reading Death of Superboy: prologue in 36, then 37 and 38 (plus the Superman tie-ins, which I can easily post as bonus sidebar reviews the same weeks as 37 and 38, since I own the Man of Steel v.4 trade which collects the entire DoS arc.)

Then, having wrapped up DoS, we could go bi-weekly from then on, starting with Cosmic Boy 1-4 (as a sort of sidebar/flashback to the just-read DoS), then resuming the monthly with 39.

Because, to be honest, while DoS is, in and of itself, a decent read, the repercussions for the Legion Baxter series were devastating, and the final 24 issues of the monthly (plus sundry Annuals) are such a depressing slog that trying to do one every week would feel uncomfortable to me, personally.

I will probably continue to read and review clusters of issues as I have been doing--an entire arc at a time, rather than individual issue. I'm fine with whatever schedule is adopted.

The longer they are spaced apart, the quicker I'll be able to catch up. Annuals and spin offs all help there

Real Life has really gotten in the way of late. I'm hoping to catch up shortly, but then may be delayed again.

I'm slacking. Tired & taking this week off. Plan to do the Cosmic Boy mini in one shot (inspired by HWW's approach) next week, then back to regular programming.

I suspect I'm not too inspired by the Rokk & Lydda show... but we'll see.

Nice to be somebody's inspiration!

Enjoy the rest, Cramey. You've earned it.

I echo He Who's sentiments, Cramey.

And I'm happy to report that I'm a lot more psyched about the "Greatest Hero of Them All" 4-parter than I expected. Do you have the Superman and Action Comics tie-ins? Because if not, my offer to review them still stands.

I'll take you up on the offer to review the Superman and Action comics, Annfie, since I don't have them.

For the next Archive, #23, I propose the following issues:

LSH 37 - 39, Annual #3, LSH #40 - 43. That takes us to the end of the Laurel Kent Manhunter story.

Millenium happens around this time, but that's another series I don't have. Apart from Laurel's story, does it have any involvement with the Legion?

Comments, suggestions always welcome.

Nope Millennium had no other effect on the Legion.

(For that matter apart from the Manhunter reveals it had very little effect on the DC Universe as a whole and seemed to be quickly forgotten.)

That batch makes sense to me, and I look forward to Annfie's review. Being a Superman fan I do have the crossovers and would like to see others viewpoints.

I'm also in agreement with your proposed bunch of issues, Cramey. And I'm glad to be of service RE: the Superman/Action tie-ins. Thanks, too, Stile, for the kind words -- I look forward to your perspective as well.

I've got some very good news and some mildly bad news:

First, the good -- I have flipped through the next six issues (40 to 45) and found them far more enjoyable than I'd remember (yes, folks, even the Millennium tie-ins. ) Plus, 45, the 35th Anniversary Lightning Lad/Luck Lords issue, has great sentimental value to me for reasons I'll elaborate on when we get to it. So what I'd like to propose, is that maybe I could give Cramey a well-deserved six weeks off from doing the lead review for the Re-Reads?

Next, the bad -- after 45, I myself am going to take six weeks off from participating in the Re-Reads, because nothing has changed, or ever will change, my opinion that Conspiracy is one of the worst Legion stories ever published, and arguably did more harm overall than even the Pocket Universe stuff.

I will rejoin with issue 51 and stick around all the way through End of an Era and into the Postboot, but Conspiracy...no, just no.

Excellent! I'm looking forward to your lead reviews, especially since I have bad memories of the Lightning Lad/Luck Lords issue! And the funny thing is, good memories of Conspiracy, despite some of its glaring flaws.

And if you can make it through End of an Era without gagging, you're a stronger woman than I am.

Yay! Thanks, Cramey! Have a cup of coffee on me.

Heads up, Legion Worlders.

Volume 23 has reached its appointed end with LSH Baxter 43.

I will continue to write the lead review for the next two issues, which means that, unless anyone has objections, I will begin the thread for Volume 24 next week.

I propose that Volume 24 cover:

LSH Baxter 44-49, LSH Baxter Annual 4, and LSH Baxter 50. That'll bring us to the parallel endings of both the Conspiracy arc and the ongoing Starfinger arc.

Thoughts?

Chiming in even though I have been absent from the readthrough the last few weeks (I do intend to catch up).

Sounds like a good set to me.

Other possibilities include:

Secret Origins #25 which was published about the same time and includes yet another retelling of the team's origin, this time from Brande's perspective.

The Wanderers began in this period. I have them but they never really grabbed me much. Can't remember much past the first issue.

Who's Who in the Legion. This 7 issue series was published then as well. Not much story content of course, but lots of interesting trivia. Bit much for a read through probably.

Glad to hear you intend to catch up, Stile. And thanks for the thoughts.

Secret Origins #25 sounds intriguing, but I don't own a copy. Of course, that shouldn't stop you, and anyone else here who does have a copy, from reviewing it. I'm in favor of including it. What's the cover date?

I have neither owned nor read a single issue of the Wanderers. In LSH Baxter #42, Polar Boy quite blatantly plugged the guest-appearances of several Legionnaires in an early issue of Wanderers, but I don't remember if there was a footnote with the issue number.

Who's Who in the Legion is fun to dust off and peruse every once in a while, but I don't think it should be included in the Re-Read, due mainly to the low story content you mention.

The Wanderers fight/team-up with Wildfire, White Witch and Lightning Lass in issue #3 but that is their only appearance or involvement in the 13 issue series. I am not sure if I ever read all the issues myself. I seem to remember feeling that the best thing about it was a few of the covers. So even I don't have much motivation to cover it. Cover date is August 1988, same month as LSH 49.

Secret Origins vol 2 #25 has a cover date of April 1988. This puts it the same month as LSH v3 #45. I am happy to review it in the week after 45 or maybe just later in that week if few others have it. (No point delaying everyone else for a week if I am the only one with a copy.)

Let's include Secret Origins since stile86 has a copy (I might as well, haven't checked - but don't remember it). Ann's selection of issues for the next volume looks good. Thanks for lining this up!

I've been swamped with things IRL and will be through next week, but will get back to the re-read after that.

Thank you, Cramey, for being able to make enough time to put in your 2 pence. Looking forward to seeing you back in a couple weeks!

So I'm thinking this reading order would work best:

LSH Baxter 44-45, Secret Origins 25, LSH Baxter 46-49, Annual 4, and 50.