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Hey! I just bought Wizard's Jim Lee Millennium Edition and saw these Legion designs in the Sketchbook section -





Have these been published before? This is the first time I've seen them. And if they were done in 2003, why is "Phantom Girl," "Mon-El," "Lightning Lad," "Dream Girl," or for that matter "Element Lad" used and not their post-boot codenames. Does he know something we don't?

Unless I'm mistaken, Jim Lee has expressed interest in working on the Legion, but only the preboot Legion. Hence any designs he would make would be for them...

I really like the top Ultra Boy and Saturn Girl pics, and the bottom Karate Kid, Invisible Kid, and especialy Timber Wolf pics. The Dream Girl doesn't look that much different form her other looks. The rest are kinda bland, and I hate the Lighting Lad pic. The Sunboy and Mon-El pics look more like street clothes than costumes.

Maybe I just never warmed up to Lee's style, but I find these costumes hideous. (Though the Timber Wolf outfit has possibilities.)

I would have to agree with HWW. Although I won't use as strong a word as "hideous," I'll say for the most part I'm not impressed. None of these designs really blow me away. Timber Wolf's redesign is interesting, but why is he carry a staff? Does Lee miss drawing Gambit? Cos is too muscular and I don't like his facial structure.

Okay, now that I think about it, HWW is right on the ball. Those Lightning Lad and Sun Boy costumes ARE hideous. And I'm wondering who's wearing Saturn Girl's outfit because that sure ain't Imra!

The only re-design I'm really fascinated with is Element Lad's

They kinda make me think of John Byrne's Krypton, which isn't a compliment.

Although, if he lost those bulky gloves and boots, some of the guys' suits look promising.

They're interesting, although not what I would choose for The Legion.

Two different Tinyas, both with short hair - I don't think I've ever seen her drawn with short hair, outside of L.E.G.I.O.N.

I liked the Saturn Girl costumes, but not for Imra. Maybe for some villainess/cult priestess type of character; they seemed a bit creepy, somehow.

The big-muscled-guy look doesn't really catch me.

Cool he's a Legion pre-crisis fan

While I won't say the costumes are hideous, they're certainly not what I'd like to see on theLegionnaires.

I guess the AR in me will now try and find this issue. Can't really see the scans too well (my problem not Gary's).

From what I can see though, I do like the Saturn Girl. Reminds me of a Bene Gesserit from Dune.

My first thought when I looked at those designs was of an updated Saturn QUEEN. Kinda regal-looking, with the hood and cape. How old's Jancel now?

P.S.-- Why's Dirk wearing a skirt? Is he Irish? :-D

And the Tinyas-- The first one's a nice updating of the Cockrum outfit. I know it's blasphemy, but the shorthair look is pretty hot to me... a nice update from the pigtails. But the SECond one... why put bellbottoms on her sleeves???

And I'd like to see Garth and Jan colored before passing judgment...

Miner, you hit the nail on the head with me. Why the damn bulky gloves and boots? the best by far in my opinion was Brin. Jo looked like steroid boy, and Mon looked like Cro-Magnon man crossed with Sebastain shaw of the xmen.

The dirk thing would have worked as a kilt. make him a red-haired Scot.

I find the designs of Element Lad and Timber Wolf very fascinating. I'm not completely sold on the 90s trend big boots, gloves, and accessories for the Legion...but if the costumes were to sway this way I wouldn't mind the Jan & Brin designs even for the postboot counterparts. That's not saying I WANT to see the trend happen, but...they're cool attempts.

I like the concept of P.G. with short hair...and Saturn Girl's costume is great...but as others have said, not on her. Imra wearing a skull cap (the first picture) just doesn't float well with me.

Most of the outfits that are variations/spoofs of the regular duds are very fascinating, like Jo's and Mon's, though as stated it's not the look I would want them to keep full-time.

Wow! I really like these. Granted, I would take anything over the blandiforms they're wearing now, but these throw in a good deal of style and reference to previous styles. And, I've seen bigger boots. These are practically slippers.

I especially like Saturn Girl and the second Phantom Girl.

I like these for the most part... remembering that they're intended for preboot Legionnaires.

I don't mind ornate gloves or boots... just not both on the same character.

ULTRA BOY: The second pic of Jo looks great, IMO... though I'm not sure what's going on with the legs.

MON-EL: Either the boots or the gloves have got to go.

PHANTOM GIRL: Tale the hair from the second sketch and put it atop the first figure's head and I think you've got something.

She should still wear pigtails from time to time, though.

SATURN GIRL: When I first glanced at the sketch, I thought this costume was going to belong to Emerald Empress... till I noticed the Saturn emblem.

It's a beautiful costume... like the rest of you, I don't think it's quite right for Imra, unless it's for some ceremonial use. However, it makes more sense for her than the pink bikini ever did.

SUN BOY: I'd have to see this head-on. My initial impression is that it's too uniform-like for Dirk. Is the topcoat supposed to be transparent?

STAR BOY: I like the starfield... the rest is a bit too military-looking.

LIGHTNING LAD: Not horrible, but you just can't improve on the uniform Garth wore up until the end of LOST.

ELEMENT LAD: Like it. I really like the jacket with actual sleeves and a cuff that isn't skintight. The boots are a bit busy. If this was used, I'd hope a reason for the arrow would be given... nowhere to go but up, considering his recent usage? Colors? Blue and green... maybe one or both of them being more pastel than primary, as used preboot. Or pink and white?

INVISIBLE KID: I like this actually. It combines lines from preboot and reboot looks... I think black and white suits Lyle more than the tan range from preboot, though.

KARATE KID: Eh... kind of bland.

DREAM GIRL: Not enough change to mention.

TIMBER WOLF: Great.

COSMIC BOY: Costume' OK, but this looks more like Cosmic KING than BOY.

I wonder if these are Lee's favorite characters? Bet he's got lots more sketches lying around, if they are.

TN

The only one I really liked was the first Phantom Girl.

Really disliked Irma's.

And I especially didn't like the bulked up Karate Kid.

I wish I could draw... then I'd feel a little better about criticizing them. But since I'm a fanboy with no accountability for what I say... I may as well let loose with the words.

Who ever said that they would like to see them colored before they passed judgement made a real good point. Color could make a huge difference. That said, I look at these drawings and can't help but wander what Coipel's inked pencils looked like before colored. I'd bet that they are very similar to these. The messy hair and the forms just seem so similar. I will say that these faces are different than Coipel's drawings
of The Legion.

My final word is... I like 'em all, except for Saturn Girl. I look at her design and think "Nun" and we all know how that doesn't work in The Legion.

I really like all of these with the SOLE exception of Saturn Girl's.

Aside from the arm/leg pad/thingies, I think most of them are ok. The ones I like the most are Lightning Lad, the first Ultra Boy and Timberwolf. After Sprouse's redesign of Tinya, I can't help but see Lee's Saturn Girl designs as more fitting for Apparition (sans skullcap).

The short hair is fine on the first Tinya. The costume, as a '70s tribute/throwback, isn't bad either.

The design of her face, though, makes her look like a cast member of "The Family Guy".

well i've gotta say, i pretty much love all of these !!! i really love JIM LEE's work !!!

i know a lot of his designs can look the same, but his characters, just look AMAZING !!! [ imo ]

i'd love to see him do some work on the LEGION !!!

Matthew.

hey Gary !!

did you get this book, this week ??

i didn't see this at the CBS today ??

perhaps, i just didn't see it ??

Matthew.

*hic*