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I just finished watching the first three seasons of "Arrow" on Netflix and it was sooooo much better than I expected. Next is the first season of Flash. What I am really excited about is "Legends of Tomorrow" next year. It is supposed to feature Atom, White Canary, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Firestorm, Heatwave, and Captain Cold vs. Vandal Savage. I can't wait!

“Famous” talking apes in TV and movies:

(1) The original Planet of the Apes movies the original with Charlton Heston, all notoriously bad.
(2) Mr. Smith: Talking orangutan, originally from the Clint Eastwood movies. Only talking. They ran all thirteen episodes before locking them away in the vault, never to be seen again.
(3) Congo: Haven’t seen it, but 22% on Rotten Tomatoes.
(4) The 2 most recent Planet of the Apes movies, with Andy Serkis as Caesar. Actually pretty good, both of them.

Nothing personal against talking gorillas, they just don’t seem to be at the top of the list in popular culture. Talking babies, dogs, and even mules have seen more success. But Flash seems to be making a go of it.

Yes, Grodd, Barry and Iris all have Daddy issues. Cisco and Wells, kinda-sorta, too, in a mentorish way.

And

The original Planet of the Apes is a classic!

From Wikipedia:

Planet of the Apes was well received by critics and is widely regarded as a classic film and one of the best films of 1968, applauded for its imagination and its commentary on a possible world gone upside down. The film holds an 89% "Certified Fresh" rating on the review aggregate website Rotten Tomatoes, based on 47 reviews.In 2008, the film was selected by Empire magazine as one of The 500 Greatest Movies of All Time.

The film won an honorary Academy Award for John Chambers for his outstanding make-up achievement. The film was nominated for Best Costume Design (Morton Haack) and Best Original Score for a Motion Picture (not a Musical) (Jerry Goldsmith). The score is known for its avant-garde compositional techniques, as well as the use of unusual percussion instruments and extended performance techniques, as well as his 12-note music (the violin part using all 12 chromatic notes) to give an eerie, unsettled feel to the planet, mirroring the sense of placelessness.

I STAND CORRECTED.

Back in the 90s my then-boyfriend took us to see ALL FIVE Planet of the Apes movies in an intense movie marathon. No breaks.

Apparently there was also a Planet of the Apes TV show.

A Gorilla City spin-off now seems entirely likely.

Man, I was so disappointed with Grodd's origin last year, but I was all "Well, I guess Gorilla City is just a bit too far-fetched for television."

Needless to say I was very pleased with this week's episode.

I know right!

Having Gorilla City be on Earth-2 was a clever shortcut to have it already be established without coming from out of nowhere and still allows Grodd to be unique.

This is beginning to make me think that trips to Earth-2 will be as frequent as Clark shooting back and forth from Smallville to Metripolis in "Smallville." (I swear, it seemed like they were just down the road with how often the various characters dropped by)

I was underwhelmed by the introduction of Grodd and pleasantly surprised by the character's return. I'm glad that the potential King Kong/Faye Raye bit was avoided and thoroughly enjoyed the notion of Gorilla City.

I'd love to see some of the Earth-2 characters pop up as heroes (such as Atom Smasher).

Still not sure how I feel about Vibe, but I haven't seen him break dance yet.

Fan fiction is weird.

Looks like Barry Allen / Leonard Snart slash is a thing now.

Tonight's ep! Jumpin Fishhooks!

Loved the Multiversal cameos!

Watched an episode of the Flash for the first time to catch the Legion references. I am glad I do not live in either of the two Universes this parade of clowns are tasked with protecting.

"You need to work on finding Zoom, and forget about what people who are not you are doing with their lives." -- good advice from Dr. Wells, but exactly what everyone in this episode is wasting their time doing. Then, when Zoom and his henchmen find them: No plan! No plan at all!

I'm betting that Earth-Two Barry 'Clark' Allen is Zoom, but I'm not wasting my time following this to find out.

There do seem to be some problems coming up with credible plans to further the plot. It's like the writers want to get from point A to point B, and it would be really interesting to do so, but lacking a good plan to make it happen, throw crap on a wall. Tonights "speed transfer" handshake deal an example. Who would do that? Who would believe the other party would follow through? Not credible in the least.

Complaints on-line about the treatment of "Jay Garick." I don't get why it's not generally figured out? That's not Jay Garick, it's Hunter Soloman. No WAY they turn Jay Garick/Flash into a bad guy. Jay Garick is the caged guy in the mask, right?

It's been awhile since comment but I'd have to say this week's episode might be the best single episode of a superhero show I've seen. Certainly of the main dc-marvel group.

They've found some snappy dialogue, good balance of serious and humor and unusual for ANY show, I can actually watch two characters talking to each other and enjoy it. They seem to have the best villain group to me.

Most importantly to Flash I suppose, the actors have grown into the Barry and Iris characters and they are meshing well together as a romantic couple but any scene with Barry and Jay is golden.

No, REALLY, HOW awesome was tonight's episode??? All I could keep thinking was how much Lash would have loved it. I can't get over how many of the actors from the combined DC shows can sing... Cisco, Winn, Dr. Stein, Merlyn..??? The GLEE twins had the cutest spotlight duet, but Grant took top honors with Barry's finale/ serenade for Iris-- of *course*, it's HIS show--!! Glad I watched it tonight!

Can't wait to watch it!

Flash Season 1: Wells/Thawne spends the entire season desperately trying to keep the team from inadvertently changing the future because time is so fragile.
Flash Season 3: The team finds it incredibly hard to change the future because time is so inflexible.

I'm watching the season 2 ending right now and all I can say is "Barry cries yet again".

Damn, that boy's got some waterworks.

Last night's episode (second to last of season 3) was so incredibly frustrating in terms of how incompetent all of the characters were in (barely) trying to prevent a Team Flash member's death... I gotta believe it was all just a setup to "trick" the big bad, but if not, dang, the writer's made Barry and co. come off entirely stupid...

The big story arc of this season definitely ended up pretty lame.

Apart from a few strong episodes (the musical one being the one that worked best), this season really blew what was a promising start, with the Flashpoint/Dr. Alchemy storyline. The moment they shifted to yet another evil speedster as the big bad, it just went downhill. It sounds like they are avoiding that trap next season, but I'm hoping we finally get to see Barry as the confident inspirational role model hero instead of the perpetual beginner.

Interestingly, Arrow, which I've always been pretty up and down about, ended on one of the best episodes of the series.

I'm currently watching all of season 2. It's tough slogging, I have to say. The special effects are great, and Black Flash is frankly awesome. But everything else plays like lame super-hero soap opera.

I thought season 2 was overall good, but season 3 really recycled seasons 1 and 2 for an overall dissatisfying experience.

However, season 4 has been a real delight to this point! They've lightened up the tone to the point where I routinely laugh several times per episode. I'm loving it this approach and hope it keeps up! Key to this working is the introduction to the show of one Ralph Dibny. While there are some notable differences to the character, specifically his backstory, they've found a really suitable actor for the role. So far, I'd say Flash is my favorite for best Arrowverse show this season! (My winners for the previous 3 years were Arrow season 5, Supergirl season 1 & Flash season 1, for anyone who's curious. Legends of Tomorrow, btw, is looking up this year with a similar turn to lightening up as Flash.)

Yeah, overall season 3 wasn't great, but it did have some great moments. What stood out the most was Tom Cavanagh, who got to play several different characters, and was a lot of fun. The musical crossover was fun, as was the Gorilla stuff.

The more time Caitlin spends as Killer Frost, the more I like her. I already thought her character was pretty cool (and sometimes, in a room with Barry and Cisco, feels like the adult in the room), but she just chews scenery as Killer Frost (and the CW shows are great for that, with Damien Dahrk taking the cake for scenery-chewing, across the shows).

I have a long history of preferring 'Lower Decks' characters who aren't the main lead over the main lead themselves, and this show is no different. I spend half my viewing time wishing Barry would either magically become half as smart as a six-year old, or run away very fast and not come back for a long time.

I do wish that with all the time resets, Firestorm/Ronnie would have mysteriously been alive again, but I suppose the actor hasn't been consistently available...

I would like to see Ronnie back again, if only for the Firestorm/Killer Frost interaction

I am SO glad they finally got away from Evil Speedster and Barry Needs To Get Faster tropes this season because I was honestly gonna give up on this show if they trotted that out again. I actually really like the Thinker and his wife, they have got a pretty unique dynamic for supervillains!