The winner of the poll is the Towers game! So, I will create two lists of characters that will do battle with each other here in this part of Spaceopoly.
Example: Superman vs. Batman Flash vs. Green Lantern
I will probably use a randomizer to make things more interesting. If too many battles are clearly uneven, I will rearrange them to be more fair. Would you guys have a preference for teams or fights? Otherwise, I will do a Marvel vs. DC heroes game.
It was easy to create the lists, though they might be shorter than what we are used to in Idols. I decided to stick with mostly Justice League and Avengers, as those two teams line up nicely. I capped the limit of heroes to 52 each, as some are obscure and many have the same name as another character. I will add more characters if one side has ten or less in the game. We will figure out the details of choosing more characters if/when it becomes an issue. If you are unfamilar with a character, both DC and Marvel have guides available online. I find Marvel's site to be slightly more useful because they have statistics for all their characters.
DC vs. Marvel
1. Aztek vs. Falcon 2. Huntress vs. Rogue 3. Hawkgirl vs. Hercules 4. Vixen vs. Captain Mar-vel 5. Hawkman vs She-Hulk 6. Aquaman vs. Wolverine 7. Gypsy vs. White Tiger 8. Flash (Barry) vs. Stature 9. Firestorm vs Mr. Fantastic 10. Big Barda vs. Moondragon 11. Atom (Choi) vs. Genis-vel 12. Blue Devil vs. Namor 13. Fire vs. Wonder Man 14. Mr. Miracle vs. Tigra 15. Phantom Stranger vs. Sersi 16. Manitou Raven vs. War Machine 17. Ice vs. Monica Rambeau 18. Martian Manhunter vs. Black Knight 19. Shazam vs. Dr. Strange 20. Faith vs. Captain America 21. Firehawk vs. Yellow Jacket (Pym) 22. Hal Jordan vs. Hulk 23. Dr. Fate vs. Starfox 24. Lobo vs. Hellcat 25. Batman vs. Wasp 26. Steel vs. Quicksilver 27. Black Lightning vs. Iron Man 28. Cyborg vs. Hawkeye II (Bishop) 29. Elongated Man vs. Medusa 30. Black Canary vs. Ms.Marvel 31. Wonder Woman vs. Vision 32. Tasmanian Devil vs. Adamantium Man 33. Superman vs. Thor (I promise this was random) 34. Red Arrow vs. Firestar 35. Batgirl (Barbara) vs. Black Widow 36. Vibe vs. Spider-Man 37. Kyle Rayner vs. Invisible Woman 38. Booster Gold vs. Ant-Man (Lang) 39. Blue Beetle vs. Justice 40. Geo-Force vs. Quasar 41. Green Arrow vs. Mockingbird 42. Red Tornado vs. Luke Cage 43. Lightray vs. Scarlet Witch 44. Mary Marvel vs. Silver Surfer 45. Star-Girl vs. Hawkeye 46. Zatanna vs. Mantis 47. Plastic Man vs. Swordsman 48. Aqualad II vs. Beast 49. Dr.Light II vs. Valkryie 50. Atom (Palmer) vs. Black Panther 51. Power Girl vs. Firebird 52. John Stewart vs. Triathlon
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Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
1. Aztek 2. Rogue 3. Hawkgirl 4. Captain Mar-vel 5. She-Hulk 6. Wolverine 7. White Tiger 8. Flash (Barry) 9. Firestorm 10. Big Barda 11. Genis-vel 12. Namor 13. Wonder Man 14. Mr. Miracle 15. Phantom Stranger 16. War Machine 17. Monica Rambeau 18. Martian Manhunter 19. Shazam 20. Captain America 21. Firehawk 22. Hal Jordan 23. Dr. Fate 24. Lobo 25. Batman 26. Quicksilver 27. Iron Man 28. Cyborg 29. Elongated Man 30. Ms.Marvel 31. Wonder Woman 32. Adamantium Man 33. Thor 34. Firestar 35. Black Widow 36. Spider-Man 37. Invisible Woman 38. Booster Gold 39. Blue Beetle 40. Quasar 41. Green Arrow 42. Luke Cage 43. Scarlet Witch 44. Mary Marvel 45. Hawkeye 46. Zatanna 47. Plastic Man 48. Beast 49. Valkryie 50. Black Panther 51. Power Girl 52. John Stewart
Some real toughies there. Firestorm v Mister Fantastic was the toughest. But Barda v Strange; Shazam v Dr Strange, Dr Light v Valkryie and Palmer v Panther were the ones I had to think through too.
As for Super vs Thor (what a draw), I'm reminded of the JLA vs Avengers mini. I thought it was odd that Supes would come out on top in that one. Back when it was a pre Crisis idea, and Supes was moving planets around, then fine. But it was post Crisis Supes. While he had been depowered and was sniffling his way through issues, Thor was being reminded that he'd outlive everyone of his teammates over in the Avengers series.
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"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
I plan to write match commentaries on these along with the results. I loved the old (now defunct) CBUB fights and want to try to get the same level of energy.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
As for Super vs Thor (what a draw), I'm reminded of the JLA vs Avengers mini. I thought it was odd that Supes would come out on top in that one. Back when it was a pre Crisis idea, and Supes was moving planets around, then fine. But it was post Crisis Supes. While he had been depowered and was sniffling his way through issues, Thor was being reminded that he'd outlive everyone of his teammates over in the Avengers series.
I think what Busiek was saying (to the chagrin of Marvel fans on the internet, as this image will be shared in perpetuity), is that even at reduced Post-Crisis levels, Superman's power levels are still higher or comparable to Marvel's higher end.
I remember Supes (and some other JLA members, if I remember right) making a similar observation on another page in that mini - DC heroes tended to be a bit more powerful than their Marvel counterparts.
To the best of my knowledge, DC has never released official statistics of their characters the way Marvel has. But if we were to go by feats, yes, in general, DC super-heroes are more powerful. There is a huge chunk of characters that have what I call the "Superman powerset". Like Busiek said, that easily puts Superman in what Marvel would call the deities category. One might even argue Sky-Father level since he beat Thor.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
There was a panel late in the mini when the Wasp cheers that Captain America gets to lead the combined forces. Finally, there was something that went their way. I'm not sure that early post crisis Supes would have really stopped Thor. That was probably the last Supes I read at any length. So, his power levels probably crept back up again. I'd still fancy Thor to beat Doomsday though.
As for stats, the RPGs are good for that sort of thing. Even if there's not an official crossover, there's enough description in the categories so that you can move characters between systems.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
Re Cap leading the combined teams, that was a good scene where the League recognizes Cap's leadership abilities.
I also got a chuckle out of the Avengers marveling at how easy it was to coordinate with J'Onns's telepathy - then began to wonder why it felt so new to them. I mean, they have telepaths in the Marvel U too. Granted, 99% of them seem to be X-Men, but the Avengers have worked with them before... and they had Moondragon...
Yeah, but with Moondragon you keep getting random "My telepathy is wasted on these fools" and "My costume looks so much better, but then I [iam[/I] so much better" thoughts mixed in with it.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Thanks Ibby!
