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Nightlife.




I think these lyrics from the Smiths' "How Soon Is Now" sum up my sentiments better than I could:

There's a club if you'd like to go
You could meet somebody who really loves you
So you go
And you stand on your own
And you leave on your own
And you go home, and you cry, and you want to die

Having had more life success when he changed "who really loves you" to "who fancies a quick shag" a much happier Morrissey left the Smiths for a solo career.

You know as well as I do that's not the way things really happened, Thoth.

Speaking of overrated -- any and all rock guitarists who combine stuffy old retrograde sensibilities with a shallow facility, *especially* Johnny Marr...

...but also including Jack White, Noel Gallagher, Paul Weller, John Squires, and lots of other critics' favorites whom I don't even know by name (I certainly can't tell their playing styles apart.)

Tee Hee

Liam Gallagher was on the radio earlier as part of a plug for something or t'other. As with every other interview with either of them over the last decade, they are baited into talking about the other sibling and neither of them are able to stop themselves prattling on about the other one, while saying that they've moved on. Except, if they'd moved on, it wouldn't still be coming up after a decade. >Yawn<

Johnny Marr has helped Oasis along on a couple of recordings somewhere along the way.

I AM THE SAME. I you Set!

U2.

I have to admit to a certain amount of Schadenfreude at seeing the Gallagher brothers increasingly become the butt of the joke over the years, especially considering their own attitudes towards other artists when they were at the height of their popularity.

I can just imagine Ray and Dave Davies listening to Liam and thinking, "When we were lads, we *earned* our infamy through *proper musical talent*, when we were lads."

Being nice. Sometimes you just have to rip into people who are being obtuse, annoying, rude or obnoxious.

Ain't that the truth.

The meek shall not inherit the earth. They shall inherit the filth from the soles of the feet of the people who walk all over them.

Right? Being nice is great as a general rule, but not everyone deserves to be treated nicely

Wealth.

I went to school with rich kids. They were no happier nor more fulfilled than anyone else. Certainly not nicer. And *definitely not* more enlightened.

At the opposite extreme, too many middle-class dummies (and I used to be one) see poverty as some kind of ennobling thing. Pulp frontman Jarvis Cocker, who grew up in a poor neighborhood, once noted, "Noble savages? If you walk around the place I come from, you'll see a lot of savagery and very little nobility."

Yeah, I think it's pretty well established that wealth contributes to making you happier up to a certain point, but beyond that the returns diminish pretty quickly and it can even become a negative.

I shall selflessly take any wealth that is making someone even slightly less than fully positive and fulfilled. Please send you Venturan Walking Money to the following...

It may take them a while to get there.

Being a worker bee / working more hours. After a certain point, you simply stop being productive. The Dutch and the Germans do not typically work long hours but they are very efficient.

I remember hearing of a survey once that asked people from all different economic levels how they felt about the income they were earning. (This is in a reasonably well off western nation.)

Apart from the very lowest levels most said that they weren't doing too bad but would be really satisfied if they just had about 10% more income. The same answer no matter how much they actually were earning.

One's lifestyle tends to change with one's income level. Then there's Keeping up with the Joneses, where one tends to compare to those slightly better off than they...

Neil Young.

In recent years, I've just found it harder and harder to shut out this feeling that he's a mediocre talent, and a calculating hypocrite who's had a lot of lucky breaks.

He's no Crosby, Stills or even Nash!

So Neil Young is an overrated concept? Maybe.

I've found him to be better as a music technician and activist versus a performer, to be honest.

And did this get split from the other thread somehow? I figured Ann was talking about Grohl

Young and Grohl both have annoying voices and hideous overbites.

I beg your pardon, I resemble that remark.