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I thought that Vixen had some good stories in the Justice League. More so than her time in the Squad. Kudos to Ostrander (and Yale?) for being able to rescue Barbara Gordon from her Killing Joke fate.
I totally forgot that Babs made her transition to Oracle in Suicide Squad! I mean, I knew she was there but I had forgotten that this was a big reveal.
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Considering the influence that the grim and gritty books had at the time, they deserve lots of credit for finding another path for Babs and convincing those above to let them do it.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Amanda Waller 6
Black Orchid 7
Bronze Tiger 6
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 5
Captain Boomerang (George Harkness) 6
Count Vertigo 7
Deadshot 7
Enchantress 6
Jewelee 5
Karin Grace 5
Katana 5
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 5
Mindboggler 4
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 7
Nightshade 6
Oracle 6
Plastique 4
Poison Ivy 6
Ravan 6
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 5
Thinker (Cliff Carmichael) 5
Vixen 5
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This round is TIGHT so far...
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Amanda Waller 7
Black Orchid 2
Bronze Tiger 4
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 6
Captain Boomerang (George Harkness) 5
Count Vertigo 4
Deadshot 7
Enchantress 4
Jewelee 3
Karin Grace 2
Katana 1
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 4
Mindboggler 2
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 6
Nightshade 2
Oracle 2
Plastique 6
Poison Ivy 5
Ravan 1
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 6
Thinker (Cliff Carmichael) 1
Vixen 2
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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Unseen, not unheard
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Amanda Waller 7
Black Orchid 4
Bronze Tiger 3
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 4
Captain Boomerang (George Harkness) 2
Count Vertigo 4
Deadshot 4
Enchantress 7
Jewelee 4
Karin Grace 4
Katana 4
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 1
Mindboggler 1
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 1
Nightshade 7
Oracle 7
Plastique 6
Poison Ivy 3
Ravan 1
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 1
Thinker (Cliff Carmichael) 3
Vixen 4
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Interesting to see the split votes over Vertigo. While Deadshot was certainly the most popular character through the first half of the series, Vertigo was definitely the breakout star of the last few dozen issues (it was fitting to have the two of them close it out staring each other down).
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This race is tight... I'm not sure if anyone else is voting ... I'll tally this afternoon and take the top 15 (just to make it an easy cap)
Last edited by Myg - Andy S; 03/08/17 08:36 AM.
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Yikes! Bound to be some favourites going in this round.
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The Wall manages to climb to the top! Congrats, Amanda, for showing yet again the tenacity that makes you the boss.
It's getting so tight that I'm picking the top 15
#1! Amanda Waller 42 100%
Bronze Tiger 39 93%
Enchantress 39 93%
Count Vertigo 37 88%
Plastique 36 86%
Deadshot 34 81%
Vixen 34 81%
Karin Grace 32 76%
Nightshade 32 76%
Oracle 32 76%
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 32 76%
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 31 74%
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 31 74%
Tick tock tick tock tick tock
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 28 67%
Mindboggler 27 64%
Thank you for your service. Losers. Boom
Captain Boomerang (George Harkness) 25 60%
Katana 24 57%
Black Orchid 22 52%
Ravan 22 52%
Poison Ivy 21 50%
Thinker (Cliff Carmichael) 21 50%
Jewelee 18 43%
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Alright, the top 15. Score them 1-15, with 15 being the highest score. ONLY USE EACH SCORE ONCE (this is going to be ranked basically)
I'll close it out Sunday for the top 10. Then we go WILD CARD
Amanda Waller
Bronze Tiger
Capt. Richard Montgomery FlagÂ
Count Vertigo
Deadshot
Enchantress
Karin Grace
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw)
Mindboggler
Nemesis (Tom Tresser)
Nightshade
Oracle
Plastique
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller)
Vixen
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So, Richard Rogers Flag is the Rick Flag from the Ostrander Suicide Squad series, right? 
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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Here's the info: Just so there isn't Flag confusion:
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag - The guy from the WWII Dinosaur island days.
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) - The guy from the Brave and the Bold who later went on to lead the 80's Squad, retconned afterwards to have actually been Anthony Miller.
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Bronze Tiger 15
Deadshot 14
Vixen 13
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 12
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 11
Count Vertigo 10
Nightshade 9
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 8
Capt Richard Mongomery Flag 7
Amanda Waller 6
Enchantress 5
Karin Grace 4
Oracle 3
Mindboggler 2
Plastique 1
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Just so there isn't Flag confusion:
Yeah, wouldn't want this to be a False Flag operation...tee..hee...oh look...>cough< my votes... Deadshot 15 Mindboggler 14 Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 13 Enchantress 12 Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 11 Oracle 10 Karin Grace 9 Nightshade 8 Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 7 Bronze Tiger 6 Amanda Waller 5 Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 4 Count Vertigo 3 Vixen 2 Plastique 1 On those that went last round:- Captain Boomerang (George Harkness) - The incorrigible character whose arc was that he didn't change, even in light of familial revelations. Katana - Probably about right for her to leave here, as she didn't stay around much in the Ostrander run. A very good choice for involvement though. Black Orchid - Extremely powerful, and possibly a good thing that she didn't stay to become a deus ex machina character. I wonder what Ostrander was going to do with her, before she got moved elsewhere? Ravan - A very modern villain for a different kind of conflict, his arc with Kobra took him down a different path from a perhaps more controversial look at the two sides in today's world. Poison Ivy - Old schjoll scheming villainy. Oddly enough, I didn't miss her much when she had gone. Thinker (Cliff Carmichael) - A great sociopath for the squad who added some real threat to his own colleagues as much as to those they faced. Jewelee 18 - Again, about right. Some psychopathic silliness added a different tone, probably in a more subtler way than Harley Quinn would later add.
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Amanda Waller 15
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 14
Deadshot 13
Enchantress 12
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 11
Plastique 10
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 9
Oracle 8
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 7
Count Vertigo 6
Nightshade 6
Mindboggler 4
Bronze Tiger 3
Vixen 2
Karin Grace 1
I didn't think Harley Quinn would need any saving, so she might get my Wild Card vote. I am still slightly disappointed by the low popularity of her in the Bat-Villain Idol.
Go with the good and you'll be like them; go with the evil and you'll be worse than them.- Portuguese Proverb
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I've always thought of the squad as a thriller containing superheroes. Any of the characters *could* die. Harley Quinn seems to run around with a mallet in the middle of gun battles, with immortality from the Plott Gods. It just breaks my interest in the book.
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15 points - Count Vertigo
14 points - Deadshot
13 points - Nemesis (Tom Tresser)
12 points - Amanda Waller
11 points - Bronze Tiger
10 points - Nightshade
9 points - Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller)
8 points - Oracle
7 points - Vixen
6 points - Enchantress
5 points - Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw)
4 points - Mindboggler
3 points - Karin Grace
2 points - Plastique
1 point - Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag
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Plastique 15
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 14
Count Vertigo 13
Amanda Waller 12
Bronze Tiger 11
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 10
Enchantress 9
Nightshade 8
Deadshot 7
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 6
Vixen 5
Oracle 4
Karin Grace 3
Mindboggler 2
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 1
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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Waiting on Ibby, Set and Blacula...
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15. Amanda Waller
14. Vixen
13. Nightshade
12. Count Vertigo
11. Enchantress
10. Bronze Tiger
9. Oracle
8. Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw)
7. Plastique
6. Deadshot
5. Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag
4. Karin Grace
3. Nemesis (Tom Tresser)
2. Mindboggler
1. Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller)
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Really interesting rankings. I'm looking forward to seeing how this round ends up.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Sorry for delay - haven't been able to get to my PC for a few days.
15. Enchantress
14. Bronze Tiger
13. Count Vertigo
12. Plastique
11. Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller)
10. Nemesis (Tom Tresser)
9. Vixen
8. Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw)
7. Nightshade
6. Mindboggler
5. Karin Grace
4. Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag
3. Oracle
2. Deadshot
1. Amanda Waller
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Alright - I am crazy busy until Thursday so I wanted to get the results up (sorry, Ibby!)
Some surprises this round... Congrats to Deadshot and Count Vertigo for a tie for #1!!!!
Deadshot 72 100%
Count Vertigo 72 100%
Bronze Tiger 70 97%
Enchantress 70 97%
Amanda Waller 66 92%
Nemesis (Tom Tresser) 65 90%
Richard Rogers Flag (Anthony Miller) 64 89%
Manhunter/Privateer (Mark Shaw) 60 83%
Nightshade 54 75%
Vixen 52 72%
Such a rough round. To get the top 10, these folks have to go BOOM
Plastique 48 67%
Oracle 45 63%
Capt. Richard Montgomery Flag 37 51%
Mindboggler 34 47%
Karin Grace 29 40%
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WILD CARD ROUND!!! Who comes back? Will it be a Waller? A Flag? Somebody who gave their life in the line of duty?
Alright - pick two eliminated contestants. Your #1 choice gets 2 points, your #2 choice gets 1 point
I'll leave it up until Thursday
Amanda Waller (Assault on Arkham)
Amanda Waller (Film)
Amanda Waller (Justice League Unlimited)
Amanda Waller (New 52)
Atom (Adam Cray)
Atom Smasher
Big Sir
Black Adam
Black Orchid
Black Spider (New 52)
Blackguard
Blackstarr
Blockbuster (Mark Desmond)
Bloodletter (New 52)
Bolt
Bonnie (New 52)
Briscoe
Bronze Tiger (Rebirth)
Bulldozer
Capt. Richard Montgomery FlagÂ
Captain Boomerang (Film)
Captain Boomerang (George Harkness)
Captain Boomerang (Justice League Unlimited)
Captain Boomerang (New 52)
Captain Boomerang (Owen Mercer)
Captain Cold
Catalyst
Catwoman (Rebirth)
Cheetah (New 52)
Chemo
Chronos
Clock King
Cluemaster
Copperhead
Crowbar (New 52)
Cyclotron (Rebirth)
Deadshot (Film)
Deadshot (Justice League Unlimited)
Deadshot (New 52)
Deathstroke (New 52)
Doctor Light (Arthur Light)
Double Down
Dr. Hugh Evans
Dr. Moon
Duchess
El Diablo (Film)
El Diablo (New 52)
Electrocutioner
Enchantress (Film)
Enchantress (New 52)
Enforcer
Firehawk
Flo Crowly
Golden Eagle II
Hack (Rebirth)
Harley Quinn (Film)
Harley Quinn (New 52)
Havana
Hawkman (Carter Hall)
Hunky Punk (New 52)
Icicle (Cameron Mahkent)
James Gordon Jr. (New 52)
Javelin
Jess Bright (Koshchei the Deathless)
Jewelee
Jewelee (Rebirth)
Joker's Daughter (New 52)
Karin Grace
Karma (Wayne Hawkins)
Katana
Katana (Film)
Katana (New 52)
KGBeast (Assault on Arkham)
Killer Croc (Film)
Killer Croc (New 52)
Killer Frost
Killer Frost (Assault on Arkham)
Killer Frost (Rebirth)
King Faraday
King Shark
Knockout
Lady Liberty
Leviathan (New 52)
Light (New 52)
Lime (New 52)
Mad Dog (New 52)
Major Disaster
Major Victory
Manchester Black
Marauder
Maser/ Air Wave III
Mindboggler
Mirror Master (Evan McCulloch)
Modem
Mongul
Mr. 104
Multi-Man
Multiplex
Oracle
Outlaw
Parasite
Penguin
Plasmus
Plastique
Plastique (Justice League Unlimited)
Plastique (Smallville)
Poison Ivy
Psi
Punch
Punch (Rebirth)
Ravan
Reactron
Rick Flag (Film)
Rick Flag (Rebirth)
Rick Flagg (Justice League Unlimited)
Riddler (Assault on Arkham)
Sam Makoa
Sgt, Frank Rock Imposter
Sgt. Frank Rock
Shade the Changing Man
Sheba
Shrapnel
Shrike
Sidearm
Silent Majority
Silver Swan (Valerie Beaudry)
Slipknot
Speedy (Roy Harper)
Sportsmaster (Victor Gover)
Stalnoivolk
Superboy (Kon-El)
Tattooed Man
Thinker (Cliff Carmichael)
Thinker (Clifford De Voe)
Top
Twister
Ventriloquist (Rebirth)
Virtuosa
Voltaic (New 52)
Weasel
White Dragon
Windfall
Writer
Yasemin Soze
Yo-Yo (New 52)
Zoomax (New 52)
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