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Pile UPDATE (7/5/17)
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Wonder Woman by Perez Omnibus
Read Since Previous Update
Marvel Masterworks Captain America Vol. 8 Marvel Masterworks: The Defenders Vol. 5 iZombie Omnibus The Fix Vol. 1 Detective Comics Rebirth Vol. 1 Nightwing Rebirth Vol. 1 Justice League Rebirth Vol. 1 Action Comics Rebirth Vol. 1 Amazing Spider-Man Worldwide Vols. 3 & 4 Green Lanterns Rebirth Vol. 1 Hal Jordan & GLC Rebirth Vol. 1 Suicide Squad Rebirth Vol. 1 Titans Rebirth Vol. 1 Batgirl Rebirth Vol. 1 Wonder Woman Rebirth Vol. 1 Deathstroke Rebirth Vol. 1 Sheriff of Babylon Vols. 1 & 2 Star Wars Vol. 4: Last Flight of Harbinger
To-Read Pile West Coast Avengers Omnibus Vol. 2 Goldfish Fantastic Four by John Byrne Omnibus Vol. 2 Frank Miller's Ronin Deluxe Edition Marvel Masterworks: Silver Surfer Vol. 1 Iron Man by Michelinie, Layton & Romita, Jr. Omnibus Stray Bullets Uber Alles Edition Grimjack Omnibus Vol. 2 Jon Sable: Freelance Omnibus Vol. 2 Secret Six Vol. 1: Villains United Flex Mentallo Nemo: Roses of Berlin & River of Ghosts Shaman's Tears (Mike Grell) Howard the Duck Omnibus Just the Tips (a Sex Criminals companion by Fraction/Zdarsky) Bandette Vol. 2 Pride of Baghdad Camelot 3000 Deluxe edition Moon Knight Epic Collection Vol. 2 Star Wars: Legacy (Ostrander) Vols. 3-5 Star Wars: Tag & Bink Were Here Deadpool Classics Vols. 2 & 3 Crossover Classics Marvel/DC Vol. 1 Paying for It by Chester Brown Princess Leia TPB World War Hulk Star Slammers Complete Collection Crisis on Infinite Earths Deluxe Edition The Wizard's Tale Superman: Secret Identity Twilight Children Thor: The Mighty Avenger Complete Collection Wonder Woman: Earth One Doom Patrol/Grant Morrison Omnibus X-Statix Omnibus Ultimate Spider-Man: Chameleons World War Hulk: Incredible Hercules Batman by Moench & Jones Vol. 1 John Carter Warlord of Mars Marvel Omnibus Death & Return of Superman Omnibus All-Star Section Eight Batgirl Vol. 3 (Stewart/Fletcher/Tarr) Tales of the Batman: Alan Brennert Fables: Werewolves of Heartland Omega Men: End Is Here Vision Vol. 2 100 Bullets: Hang Up on the Hang Low 100 Bullets Book 2 Point Blank (Prelude to Sleeper) Alpha Flight by John Byrne Omnibus Complete Essex County by Jeff lemire Doctor Strange PB: Montesi Formula New Teen Titans: Games Darth Vader Vol. 4 Batgirl/Birds of Prey Rebirth Vol. 1 Hellblazer Rebirth Vol. 1 Green Arrow Rebirth Vol. 2 Superman Rebirth Vol. 2 Doctor Strange Vol. 3 Blood in Aether Ultimate Spider-man: Death of Spider-Man Prelude Monstress Vol. 1 Rachel Rising Omnibus Postal Vol. 1 New Teen Titans Vol. 6 Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Sensational She-Hulk by John Byrne: The Return
New Stuff
Batman Rebirth Vol. 2 Aquaman Rebirth Vol. 2 Green Lanterns Rebirth Vol. 2 Black Widow (Waid/Samnee) Vols. 1 & 2 Amazing Spider-Man: Clone Conspiracy HC All-Star Batman Rebirth Vol. 1 Detective Comics Rebirth Vol. 2 Red Hood & Outlaws Rebirth Vol. 1 Batman & Outsiders Vol. 1 HC JLA: Bronze Age Omnibus Vol. 1 Ultimate Death of Spider-Man HC Cyborg Rebirth Vol. 1 Flash Rebirth Vol. 2 Marvel Masterworks Captain America Vol. 9 Hawkeye: Kate Bishop Vol. 1 Doom Patrol (Young Animal) Vol. 1 Wonder Woman Rebirth Vol. 2 Lazarus Vol. 5 Superboy & LSH Vol. 1 Wonder Woman by John Byrne Vol. 1 Marvel Masterworks: Champions JLU : Infinitus Saga
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Of the recently read, anything you would particularly recommend?
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Posted in the wrong thread. Nothing to see here.
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Of the Rebirth lot, I'd particularly recommend Nightwing, Detective, Batgirl, Green Lanterns and Deathstroke. (I'm overdue for another set of Rebirth reviews. Look for one soon in the rebirth thread.)
The others really depend on your sensibilities. The Cap and Defenders Masterworks are must-reads if you like Bronze Age Marvel. Both represent some of the best-known works of Bronze Age icons Steve Engelhart and Steve Gerber, respectively. iZombie is chock full of great Mike Allred artwork. The story ranges from sublime to slow, however. I had high hopes for modern Vertigo book Sheriff of Babylon--the hopes are met in many ways, but it seems a lot of story potential was unexplored in the 12-issue run. The Fix is a pretty entertaining comedic crime book, but the story in Vol. 1 is kind of unsatisfying in how it is simply "to be continued" in the next volume with no real plot resolution in the book itself. The ASM books are good but not anything approaching the best of the Dan Slott run. And reading Marvel's Star Wars in trades is definitely the way to go.
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Can't wait for the next round of reviews! I notice you said you really enjoyed Batgirl, which I expected and can't wait to hear about.
You've got so much great stuff to read! I'm pumped to see your ongoing thoughts on the Rebirth stuff, and I'm curious about other things when you get to them, like Monstress and Star Slammers.
On Orion, it's been so long since I read it that it's hard to remember specifics about it. But I recall also loving how Walt used lesser seen or outright new characters, and only used the other more prolific New Gods sparingly (Lightray being the premiere example as you point out). I think readers are so accustomed to the "everything all at once" approach with New Gods series that's it's become a common and tired way to do the series. Walt shifted things with and it worked really well.
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Sorry. I meant to respond to this much more promptly, but it kinda slipped my mind.
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Orion by Walt Simonson Omnibus
I'd be interested to know how this reads in one sitting. The first two story arcs were dynamite. Tthe crazy throw down between Darkseid & Orion was amazing and even though you knew DC wouldn't let it stand as status quo, had a great feeling of closure to it. I thought after the Anti-life story line, the "Banishment" story drug a little and while the rest of the series was still very good, it didn't really recover to the greatness of the first half (until 25, which was a satisfying Scott & Orion meeting which we surprisingly don't see that much of). I thought it all read just fine. It was entertaining from start-to-finish. I never found myself thinking, "wow, the second half is really dragging compared to the first half!" I mean, I suppose the storyline with Orion on Earth facing some street-level crime was a little off-beat, but I was entertained. What really surprised me was how Walt used the other existing New Gods fairly sparingly. I came in, for example, figuring Lightray would pretty much be Orion's supporting co-star. But Walt barely used all of the usual suspects (including Darkseid) but made their usages all the more memorable for having done so sparingly. His use of new or seldom-used characters and some somewhat shocking status quo changes made it clear that he wanted to build upon what Kirby had done rather than just paying homage to him. And the art was utterly spectacular! Some of his best work, right up there with his classic Thor! I've always had trouble connecting with the New Gods and their milieu, but all it ever really takes is talented creators with a burning passion for the characters to make it work--as Walt showed me! YAY and YAY AGAIN! I'm SO GLAD you enjoyed Walt's take on the Fourth World, not least because I was the one who recommended it most vociferously to you. That's a huge load off my mind. Now when are you going to review Avengers Omnibus 2, the Roy/Big John collection? (j/k)
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Was UNWORTHY THOR just a one-off trade? Was the title meant to be a mini?? It leads right into the regular THOR series by introducing the War Thor... For what it's worth, I greatly enjoyed UNWORTHY. Coipel was excellent, and the additional artists didn't detract from the overall story.
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Hm. Looks mostly like crossovers and not as much Harras/Epting just doing their own thing. I suppose Collection Obsession includes a good run of their own issues, though, in addition to the crossover with annuals. I know you're a fan of OGS, but I'm a little skeptical of it. seems I read at least a good chunk of it back in the day and didn't think much of it (just as I didn't care for X-Cutioner's Song--or was it X-Tinction Agenda?--while you and Cobie really like it). I'd really rather dig into an omnibus format collection of the Harras/Epting Avengers, but I'll consider them. CO has a better chance than OGS. Was UNWORTHY THOR just a one-off trade? Was the title meant to be a mini?? It leads right into the regular THOR series by introducing the War Thor... For what it's worth, I greatly enjoyed UNWORTHY. Coipel was excellent, and the additional artists didn't detract from the overall story. I know very little about this, but it seems like I read it was a mini. Might wanna inquire in the Thor thread to be sure. Side rant: I really hate how Marvel stealth-cancels their books! I had no idea Waid/Samnee's Black Widow had ended, and I'm not exactly sure which issue of Silver surfer is the last, even though everybody--except marvel in any official way--says it's ending.
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Lardy, CO is a must-have, if only because the last two issues collected (343-344) are the opening chapters of the Gatherers Saga. Re: OGS, it's not that I think it's that great overall, rather I think it's more than the sum of its parts. And most importantly, I still love the climax (in Avengers 347,) and still think it took guts for the creators and editors to "go there." Oh, and it's X-Cutioner's Song I love, not X-Tinction Agenda (among other reasons, XCS is drawn by Greg Capullo, Andy Kubert, Jae Lee, and Brandon Peterson, whereas XTA is drawn by Jim Lee, Jon Bogdanove, and Rob Liefeld. You tell me which group of artists is more lopsided in the talent department.
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Lardy, CO is a must-have, if only because the last two issues collected (343-344) are the opening chapters of the Gatherers Saga. Wow! I hope I wouldn't be spending that kinda $$ for just 2 good issues! Re: OGS, it's not that I think it's that great overall, rather I think it's more than the sum of its parts. And most importantly, I still love the climax (in Avengers 347,) and still think it took guts for the creators and editors to "go there." Oh, and it's X-Cutioner's Song I love, not X-Tinction Agenda (among other reasons, XCS is drawn by Greg Capullo, Andy Kubert, Jae Lee, and Brandon Peterson, whereas XTA is drawn by Jim Lee, Jon Bogdanove, and Rob Liefeld. You tell me which group of artists is more lopsided in the talent department. Um...I give up? BTW, I just received a hardcover of "Assault on Olympus" by Stern, Buscema and Palmer I'd ordered on eBay. I was surprised to realize that the batch of issues it contains, 278-285, were stern's last on the book. I sometimes suffer from fuzzy memory, but it's hard to believe his great run was over so soon after the triumph of the Masters of Evil epic! (I also have an HC of that, "Under Siege", on the way, too.) I suppose, in hindsight, his departure is masked somewhat by Buscema and Palmer sticking around 'til 300.
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Wow! I hope I wouldn't be spending that kinda $$ for just 2 good issues! Good point. Upon thinking it over, perhaps it might work best if you bought floppy-copies of 343, 344, and 347. Then, if they turn out to not be your thing, at least you won't be out more than a few bucks. XCS is drawn by Greg Capullo, Andy Kubert, Jae Lee, and Brandon Peterson, whereas XTA is drawn by Jim Lee, Jon Bogdanove, and Rob Liefeld. You tell me which group of artists is more lopsided in the talent department. Um...I give up? BTW, I just received a hardcover of "Assault on Olympus" by Stern, Buscema and Palmer I'd ordered on eBay. I was surprised to realize that the batch of issues it contains, 278-285, were stern's last on the book. I sometimes suffer from fuzzy memory, but it's hard to believe his great run was over so soon after the triumph of the Masters of Evil epic! (I also have an HC of that, "Under Siege", on the way, too.) I suppose, in hindsight, his departure is masked somewhat by Buscema and Palmer sticking around 'til 300. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. It appears, from reliable sources, that the Avengers editorial department was in such chaos between 286 through 300 that the consistency of the art was the only thing which kept the book anchored, and then just barely! Although I do consider it a blessing in disguise that Walt Simonson actually had to carry his unresolved Avengers plot threads, lock, stock, and barrel, over to Fantastic Four. IIRC, you and I both agree that Walt's F4 run was mostly awesome, and that even its (relatively) weaker issues were never less than good!
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[quote=Pal-Lardy]Wow! I hope I wouldn't be spending that kinda $$ for just 2 good issues! Good point. Upon thinking it over, perhaps it might work best if you bought floppy-copies of 343, 344, and 347. Then, if they turn out to not be your thing, at least you won't be out more than a few bucks.[/quote So you're saying that 334-344 + the Collection Obsession may not be worth it? XCS is drawn by Greg Capullo, Andy Kubert, Jae Lee, and Brandon Peterson, whereas XTA is drawn by Jim Lee, Jon Bogdanove, and Rob Liefeld. You tell me which group of artists is more lopsided in the talent department. Um...I give up? It appears, from reliable sources, that the Avengers editorial department was in such chaos between 286 through 300 that the consistency of the art was the only thing which kept the book anchored, and then just barely! Am I correct that Stern in recalling that was fired for some bullshit editorial saber-waving rather than leaving of his own accord? Although I do consider it a blessing in disguise that Walt Simonson actually had to carry his unresolved Avengers plot threads, lock, stock, and barrel, over to Fantastic Four. IIRC, you and I both agree that Walt's F4 run was mostly awesome, and that even its (relatively) weaker issues were never less than good! Obviously, it was a very good run on the FF and was aided greatly by his doing his own art there (no disrespect to Buscema and Palmer intended, there). Though his Avengers run was forgettable overall, I do seem to recall enjoying his Kang story.
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So you're saying that 334-344 + the Collection Obsession may not be worth it? From a purely objective, unsentimental standpoint, yes, I would say that. But I hope you'll still sample the floppy-copies of #343-344 and #347 (and, depending on how much you're interested in seeing Epting draw the New Warriors, you might possibly throw in #341-342 as well.) Am I correct that Stern in recalling that was fired for some bullshit editorial saber-waving rather than leaving of his own accord? I'm afraid so. Worst of all, it was done in a totally passive-aggressive way. Stern says that after he politely opined to Gruenwald that there was no way he could write Monica Rambeau being demoted in favor of Steve Rogers without there being an ugly racist subtext, all of a sudden no one at Marvel would return his phone calls. And I don't know whether Stern had already negotiated to return to Marvel to write "Hobgoblin Returns" before or after Gruenwald passed away. A pity, because they made a great writer/editor team, regardless of how badly it ended.
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Pile UPDATE (8/26/17)
Currently Reading
Monstress Vol. 1
Read Since Previous Update
West Coast Avengers Omnibus Vol. 2 Marvel Masterworks: Silver Surfer Vol. 1 Camelot 3000 Deluxe Edition Star Slammers Complete Collection The Wizard's Tale Batgirl/Birds of Prey Rebirth Vol. 1 Hellblazer Rebirth Vol. 1 Green Arrow Rebirth Vol. 2 Cyborg Rebirth Vol. 1
To-Read Pile Goldfish Fantastic Four by John Byrne Omnibus Vol. 2 Frank Miller's Ronin Deluxe Edition Marvel Masterworks: Silver Surfer Vol. 1 Iron Man by Michelinie, Layton & Romita, Jr. Omnibus Stray Bullets Uber Alles Edition Grimjack Omnibus Vol. 2 Jon Sable: Freelance Omnibus Vol. 2 Secret Six Vol. 1: Villains United Flex Mentallo Nemo: Roses of Berlin & River of Ghosts Shaman's Tears (Mike Grell) Howard the Duck Omnibus Just the Tips (a Sex Criminals companion by Fraction/Zdarsky) Bandette Vol. 2 Pride of Baghdad Moon Knight Epic Collection Vol. 2 Star Wars: Legacy (Ostrander) Vols. 3-5 Star Wars: Tag & Bink Were Here Deadpool Classics Vols. 2 & 3 Crossover Classics Marvel/DC Vol. 1 Paying for It by Chester Brown Princess Leia TPB World War Hulk Crisis on Infinite Earths Deluxe Edition Superman: Secret Identity Twilight Children Thor: The Mighty Avenger Complete Collection Wonder Woman: Earth One Doom Patrol/Grant Morrison Omnibus X-Statix Omnibus Ultimate Spider-Man: Chameleons World War Hulk: Incredible Hercules Batman by Moench & Jones Vol. 1 John Carter Warlord of Mars Marvel Omnibus Death & Return of Superman Omnibus All-Star Section Eight Batgirl Vol. 3 (Stewart/Fletcher/Tarr) Tales of the Batman: Alan Brennert Fables: Werewolves of Heartland Omega Men: End Is Here Vision Vol. 2 100 Bullets: Hang Up on the Hang Low 100 Bullets Book 2 Point Blank (Prelude to Sleeper) Alpha Flight by John Byrne Omnibus Complete Essex County by Jeff lemire Doctor Strange PB: Montesi Formula New Teen Titans: Games Darth Vader Vol. 4 Superman Rebirth Vol. 2 Doctor Strange Vol. 3 Blood in Aether Ultimate Spider-man: Death of Spider-Man Prelude Rachel Rising Omnibus Postal Vol. 1 New Teen Titans Vol. 6 Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Sensational She-Hulk by John Byrne: The Return Batman Rebirth Vol. 2 Aquaman Rebirth Vol. 2 Green Lanterns Rebirth Vol. 2 Black Widow (Waid/Samnee) Vols. 1 & 2 Amazing Spider-Man: Clone Conspiracy HC All-Star Batman Rebirth Vol. 1 Detective Comics Rebirth Vol. 2 Red Hood & Outlaws Rebirth Vol. 1 Batman & Outsiders Vol. 1 HC JLA: Bronze Age Omnibus Vol. 1 Ultimate Death of Spider-Man HC Flash Rebirth Vol. 2 Marvel Masterworks Captain America Vol. 9 Hawkeye: Kate Bishop Vol. 1 Doom Patrol (Young Animal) Vol. 1 Wonder Woman Rebirth Vol. 2 Lazarus Vol. 5 Superboy & LSH Vol. 1 Wonder Woman by John Byrne Vol. 1 Marvel Masterworks: Champions JLU : Infinitus Saga
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Nightwing Rebirth Vol. 2 Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye Vol. 1 Mother Russia Vol. 1 Thor: If Asgard Should Perish Thor: Quest for Odin Avengers: Under Siege Avengers: Assault on Olympus Hercules: Prince of Power Hercules: Full Circle Captain America: Operation Rebirth Spider-Man: Death of Jean DeWolff Spider-Man: Kraven's Last Hunt Doctor Strange: Into Dark Dimension Doctor Strange: Don't Pay the Ferryman
So a lot of the New Stuff is drawn from a fascination with the now-discontinued Marvel Premiere Edition hardcovers that reprint a lot of interesting storylines from the Bronze Age thru the '90s. I found a lot of insanely good deals on these and kinda went batshit over them! It's a mixture of stuff I own in floppies and want the format upgrade and stuff I've never read before.
So, currently, I have 5 trades in a stack to read next: Monstress (currently reading), Tom King's Vision Vol. 2, Postal Vol. 1, Darth Vader Vol. 4 and Crossover Classics: The Marvel/DC Collection Vol. 1
After that, it's the next 4 DC Rebirth trades: Superman Vol 2, Aquaman Vol 2, Batman Vol 2 and All-Star Batman Vol 1.
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Lardy, Make sure to let K-Haste know what you think of MONSTRESS! She talked me into getting the first and 2nd trades with my most recent DCBS order. I'm not going in cold; I tried out the first issue with Image's Image Firsts program and liked it a lot!
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As I've written elsewhere, V For Vendetta is currently my favorite Moore work and From Hell is the biggest contender. I haven't re-read V for Vendetta in years, and while I remember liking it, very little of it has stuck in my mind the way my favorite Moore works have. I don't know why. It's something about its symbolism, themes, messages, characters and subplots that just DO it for me upon multiple reads. Re: V for Vendetta, it's certainly timely, possibly even timeless...I guess I should give it a considered re-read sometime Well, it took me almost 2.5 years, but I finally re-read V for Vendetta last night in one marathon sitting. I agree with everything you listed about its best qualities, Lardy, and I would only add one more -- UPLIFTING. Just when it starts to feel like it's too much to bear (both for the reader and for Evey,) Valerie's note with her life story appears, and the mood gradually reverses itself until by the end of the story, I felt like a great weight had been lifted off my back. I felt empowered, and even (cautiously) optimistic. Moore's Promethea had a very similar effect on me. I'm even starting to reconsider how I rank Moore's works -- maybe Promethea at 1, V for Vendetta at 2, and From Hell at 3. Without giving TMI, V for Vendetta was exactly what I needed to read at that precise moment in my life. Thanks, Lardy.
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UPLIFTING. Just when it starts to feel like it's too much to bear (both for the reader and for Evey,) Valerie's note with her life story appears, and the mood gradually reverses itself until by the end of the story, I felt like a great weight had been lifted off my back. I felt empowered, and even (cautiously) optimistic. Moore's Promethea had a very similar effect on me. I'm even starting to reconsider how I rank Moore's works -- maybe Promethea at 1, V for Vendetta at 2, and From Hell at 3.
Without giving TMI, V for Vendetta was exactly what I needed to read at that precise moment in my life.
Thanks, Lardy. Valerie's note changed my life
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Well, it took me almost 2.5 years, but I finally re-read V for Vendetta last night in one marathon sitting. I agree with everything you listed about its best qualities, Lardy, and I would only add one more -- UPLIFTING. Just when it starts to feel like it's too much to bear (both for the reader and for Evey,) Valerie's note with her life story appears, and the mood gradually reverses itself until by the end of the story, I felt like a great weight had been lifted off my back. I felt empowered, and even (cautiously) optimistic. Moore's Promethea had a very similar effect on me. I'm even starting to reconsider how I rank Moore's works -- maybe Promethea at 1, V for Vendetta at 2, and From Hell at 3.
Without giving TMI, V for Vendetta was exactly what I needed to read at that precise moment in my life.
Thanks, Lardy. You're welcome! Love me some VfV, and I'm so glad that you got more out of it after this re-read! Was this just the second time you've read it? I think I've read it around 4 times, which is a testament to how much I love it and how rewarding a re-read it is!
Valerie's note changed my life
You both mention Valerie's story. It is unquestionably the centerpiece of the story, the part of it that makes a really great story cross over into being transcendent! One brilliant thing about her story is it could both stand alone on its own while also lending heart context and theme to the larger work. If I were teaching an LGBT studies class (I think such a thing exists), I would make Valerie's story part of the curriculum. I just love it, even as sad as it is.
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Pile UPDATE 12/1/17 Currently ReadingJLA: Bronze Age Omnibus Vol. 1 Read Since Previous UpdateMonstress Vol. 1 Deadpool Classics Vols. 2 & 3 Crossover Classics Marvel/DC Vol. 1 Princess Leia TPB World War Hulk Tales of the Batman: Alan Brennert Vision Vol. 2 Darth Vader Vol. 4 Doctor Strange Vol. 3 Blood in Aether New Teen Titans Vol. 6 Batman Rebirth Vol. 2 Aquaman Rebirth Vol. 2 Superman Rebirth Vol. 2 Black Widow (Waid/Samnee) Vol. 1 All-Star Batman Rebirth Vol. 1 Postal Vol. 1 Lazarus Vol. 5 Thor: If Asgard Should Perish Avengers: Under Siege Green Arrow Rebirth Vol. 3 Flex Mentallo To-Read Pile Goldfish Fantastic Four by John Byrne Omnibus Vol. 2 Frank Miller's Ronin Deluxe Edition Iron Man by Michelinie, Layton & Romita, Jr. Omnibus Stray Bullets Uber Alles Edition Grimjack Omnibus Vol. 2 Jon Sable: Freelance Omnibus Vol. 2 Secret Six Vol. 1: Villains United Nemo: Roses of Berlin & River of Ghosts Shaman's Tears (Mike Grell) Howard the Duck Omnibus Just the Tips (a Sex Criminals companion by Fraction/Zdarsky) Bandette Vol. 2 Pride of Baghdad Moon Knight Epic Collection Vol. 2 Star Wars: Legacy (Ostrander) Vols. 3-5 Star Wars: Tag & Bink Were Here Paying for It by Chester Brown Crisis on Infinite Earths Deluxe Edition Superman: Secret Identity Twilight Children Thor: The Mighty Avenger Complete Collection Wonder Woman: Earth One Doom Patrol/Grant Morrison Omnibus X-Statix Omnibus Ultimate Spider-Man: Chameleons World War Hulk: Incredible Hercules Batman by Moench & Jones Vol. 1 John Carter Warlord of Mars Marvel Omnibus Death & Return of Superman Omnibus All-Star Section Eight Batgirl Vol. 3 (Stewart/Fletcher/Tarr) Fables: Werewolves of Heartland Omega Men: End Is Here 100 Bullets: Hang Up on the Hang Low 100 Bullets Book 2 Point Blank (Prelude to Sleeper) Alpha Flight by John Byrne Omnibus Complete Essex County by Jeff lemire Doctor Strange PB: Montesi Formula New Teen Titans: Games Ultimate Spider-man: Death of Spider-Man Prelude Rachel Rising Omnibus Unbeatable Squirrel Girl Vol. 1 Sensational She-Hulk by John Byrne: The Return Green Lanterns Rebirth Vol. 2 Black Widow (Waid/Samnee) Vol. 2 Amazing Spider-Man: Clone Conspiracy HC Detective Comics Rebirth Vol. 2 Red Hood & Outlaws Rebirth Vol. 1 Batman & Outsiders Vol. 1 HC Ultimate Death of Spider-Man HC Flash Rebirth Vol. 2 Marvel Masterworks Captain America Vol. 9 Hawkeye: Kate Bishop Vol. 1 Doom Patrol (Young Animal) Vol. 1 Wonder Woman Rebirth Vol. 2 Superboy & LSH Vol. 1 Wonder Woman by John Byrne Vol. 1 Marvel Masterworks: Champions JLU : Infinitus Saga Nightwing Rebirth Vol. 2 Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye Vol. 1 Mother Russia Vol. 1 Thor: Quest for Odin Avengers: Assault on Olympus Hercules: Prince of Power Hercules: Full Circle Captain America: Operation Rebirth Spider-Man: Death of Jean DeWolff Spider-Man: Kraven's Last Hunt Doctor Strange: Into Dark Dimension Doctor Strange: Don't Pay the Ferryman New StuffAll-Star Batman Rebirth Vol. 2 Postal Vol. 2 Spider-Man Sinister Six Doctor Strange Vol. 4: Mr. Misery Iron Man: Iron Monger Green Lanterns Rebirth Vol. 3 Han Solo TPB Trinity Rebirth Vol. 1 Superman Rebirth Vol. 3 Spider-Man Brand New Day Complete Collection Vols. 1 & 2 Aquaman Rebirth Vol. 3 Batman Rebirth Vol. 3 Cyborg Rebirth Vol. 2 Deathstroke Rebirth Vol. 2 & 3 Flash Rebirth Vol. 3 Hal Jordan & GLC Rebirth Vol. 2 Nightwing Rebirth Vol. 3 Action Comics Hal Jordan & GLC Rebirth Vol. 2 Nightwing Rebirth Vol. 3 Thor Omnibus Vol. 3 Thor by Walt Simonson Omnibus JLI Omnibus Vol. 1 Super Sons Vol. 1 Detective Comics Rebirth Vol. 3 New Teen Titans Vol. 7 Walking Dead Here's Negan Star Wars Vol. 5 I'm still obviously high on Rebirth and buying many volumes of different series. I try not to read too many at a time in case I get burned out or something. I still owe some reviews on the Rebirth thread and will try to do so soonish. SO HAPPY to finally have a Walt Simonson Thor Omnibus! It's been one of the very top Omnibus collections on my wish list, and I'm so glad Marvel did a new printing to coincide with Ranarok. The first printings on the after-market were just going too high! I was also very pleased with Lazarus Vol. 5. The momentum gained in the previous volume has only increased! Also, I think every DC or Batman fan should read the stories contained within Tales of the Batman: Alan Brennert at some point. Practically the entirety of Brennert's comic book output is contained within this book, and it is really something special, to the point where I've just got to do a longer review here somewhere!
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What did you wind up thinking of Postal? At this point there's just one issue and some specials to go. I'll miss it.
My favorite Brennert story is his Deadman Christmas story. Sadly, since it's not Bat-related in any way, I suspect it isn't in there.
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What did you wind up thinking of Postal? At this point there's just one issue and some specials to go. I'll miss it. I liked it and felt it was a very unusual and interesting debut, though I'm not too high on each trade only containing 4 issues. Clearly, it wasn't so big of a hindrance to keep me from getting the next one, though. My favorite Brennert story is his Deadman Christmas story. Sadly, since it's not Bat-related in any way, I suspect it isn't in there. Good news--it's in there!!! From what I understand, EVERY DC story, few as there are, written by Brennert is in there. In addition to the Deadman story, there's also an excellent Black Canary Secret Origins story in the book, as well!
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Interested in your thoughts on vol. 2 of Vision
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You know, I can't explain perfectly, but I didn't think Vol. 2 of Vision quite held up to Vol. 1. It's not that it was bad at all, but it felt a little in a hurry to resolve itself in the allotted 12 issues. I'm usually not a fan of decompression, but I would have liked to have seen the story breathe a little longer. Those first six issues felt so perfect and just precisely timed. I didn't feel that with the latter six. It made the tragic happenings more hollow than I felt they should be.
I did appreciate the inclusion of Victor Mancha as a logical extension of the Vision/Ultron family. But in a way his late entrance and the consequences he brought undermined the story's more insular set-up. In the end he was kind of a story-accelerating device that eliminated some of the benefits of a slower burn. I would have liked to see more of the kids' interesting school interactions that mostly disappeared in the second half, for example.
I think, in a nutshell, that the source of my lower level of satisfaction is that the bulk of the character development happened in the first half and mostly just stopped there. It's not that they did nothing or just acted predictably, but the smaller moments gave way to big moments that could have benefited from more of the former.
I dunno. I probably need to read all twelve parts together next time to make a better judgement. But my first impression was that while the conclusion was good, the set-up was better. From all of the universal praise I've heard, I'm probably in the vast minority there.
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Great Gods!!! I just got in my Fourth World Omnibus by Jack Kirby!! This thing is HUGE and fucking GORGEOUS!!!!!
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