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So I'm reading every part of JL vs. SS and something interesting came up. Spoilers for the most recent issue of Suicide Squad, btw.

So the group of bad guys we see in JL vs. SS? As in Lobo, Emerald Empress, Rustam, Doctor Polaris? They were Amanda Waller's ORIGINAL attempt at a Suicide Squad, and it's very obviously implied that their screw-up (they kinda caused a small country to be nuked) is what led to Waller's head explosives in the New 52, rather than offer rewards (she offered Emerald Empress intel on Saturn Girl). That means THIS Emerald Empress, assuming the original New 52 Suicide Squad run happened (which it seems to have, given how familiar Harley is with everything, ''and'' that it was referenced in New Suicide Squad which is referenced a few times in Rebirth's stuff), that would mean this Emerald Empress cannot be the Retroboot one. Because she and Saturn Girl were in modern times during all that stuff.

So unless they sorta diverge from a certain point in the Retroboot, like the Retroboot itself did with the Pre-Zero Hour Legion, this KINDA rules them out as the Legion returning? Though it may just be a goof, though Rebirth seems to have a proper plan when it comes to setting up the bigger stories (JSa, LEgion, Watchmen, etc.).

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/01/13/exclusive-the-search-for-the-legion-of-super-heroes-saturn-girl-/

It was only a matter of time before someone posted this, so, here I guess.

In this week's Justice League, the League are scattered through time and Cyborg ends up in the 31st century, where he meets a very young looking Brainiac 5.

No obvious Legion appearance in the issue (for those looking to buy it solely for that reason). They don't even go to Arkham, but Cadmus.

Well... crap. I'm guessing plans changed, and Hope Larson's place in them? This leads me to think she's out from potentially writing the Legion.

So I guess... c'mon, Tom King!

Was there any news at Comicon about the Legion? I haven't seen any and am so disappointed.

The only thing I saw was the Phantom Girl announcement but there might have been something announced to those who were present

I'm certain that if there was anything else, it would have made news here. I certainly didn't see anything else in all of the coverage.

I can only assume that nothing is imminent, sadly. It's a shame for many reasons but even more so because the overall quality of Rebirth has been very good. One would think that Legion would benefit from being part of such a quality-filled launch.

I feel like the Legion would be perfect for that new format of comic book storytelling that DC is adopting, the European-style larger/longer format comics that come out quarterly or something I think.

I never feel like 22 pages (or whatever it is these days) is enough to tell a good Legion story with it's large cast of characters and worlds and concepts, especially in this era of heavy decompression.

I didn't know that DC was adopting this style ... that would be awesome!

^ I believe it's just for certain books at this stage Andy. Batman being the main one. I think Scott Snyder's book was cancelled so he could concentrate on this one. So I've read.

Bendis just signed an exclusive with DC after a zillion years at Marvel. Rampant speculation has him writing every book under the sun, but Legion has come up a few times in said speculations. Thoughts on Bendis? Thoughts on Bendis writing LSH?

OH SWEET JESUS NO

After House of M and AVX and Civil War II I don't want him anywhere NEAR the Legion

Especially with characters like Vi and Ayla, after he got rid of Angela's trans girlfriend Sera FOR NO REASON

Lots of "...the hell?" from everyone in the book
Endless talking heads
Decompression to the point that it takes 6 issues for them to pick a flavour at the Nine Planets Ice Cream Parlour. "Will It Be Strawberry?!" becomes an Event.
Some shock moments that may surprise, but often because they don't really fit into the story and just appear randomly
Initial promise slowly going downhill, although that's hardly a Bendis issue.
Everyone finishing each other's sentences.
Everyone having the same voice, not only because they finish each other's sentences.
Everyone's a snarky smart@ss and it's something none of them can turn off. Ever. Snark-fests become a replacement for variations in dialogue/ characterisation and plot. See also talking heads.

Those are my memories of Bendis books. It's been a while.

I've not read any of his noir comics, and occasionally think about getting one. But I don't.
I did buy Powers for a long time. I seem to recall some publishing issues with it, and I didn't jump back on board when it returned. The medium seemed to have caught up on whatever pluses it once had and see most of the above issues.
I picked up Avengers: Disassembled. I think it might have been a step up from a dull period in the book's history, but I can't really recall. Looking at it on it's own merits... um... well they made sure it fit the title. I picked up New Avengers too for several issues, but it fell foul of all of the above. I could probably have skipped a couple of issues and they would still have been having the same conversation.
I also read a few issues of Dark Avengers, if he wrote that. I preferred that group. So, there were some bold moves in personnel that we could see on any Legion book, if nothing else. I have read House of M. This must have been around the last time I read Marvel comics. Not that I'm pinning that on Bendis. Although he was there...

I liked the books I read by Bendis, primarily the New Avengers run. I don't think Bendis will write LSH since I heard that Hickman is now working with DC. I hope they wouldn't be so cruel to not let him write the only property he said he is a personal fan of.

There is now a photo floating around of Bendis' research materials. I spotted at least three Legion collections in it. That's not an overwhelming amount, but it certainly curious why Legion material would be part of his research at all.

Superman is the thing I saw the most of. Also a mix of JLA/JSA. I'll be very unhappy if Priest turns out to be a fill-in placeholder until Bendis can be brought on. Surprisingly little Batman stuff, but I suppose that might be because he is already well-versed in Batman Lauren doesn't need to do as much research

Follow up: The stack includes the great darkness saga, the curse, superman in the Legion by Johns, and DC presents the Legion of superheroes number one, whatever that is. Some sort of reprint I'm guessing?

No. More. Bendis.

While I think he could give the JSA a fair reboot, I don't have confidence in him on LSH.
Bendis has some plotting challenges. For me, his action occurs in ellipses. He's a tell not show writer.
And I don't want that on LSH.

I think Legion benefits from a focus on dialogue, but plotting is also important, and characterization is vital.
I don't think Bendis has the chops on the latter two.

Per CBR: DiDio All But Confirms JSA, Legion of Super-Heroes Series On The Way

Um....yay?

I guess it's better than nothing, but I'd like something more solid.

Yeah, I hesitated about posting it because it was really pretty insubstantial as far as news goes, but whatever...

"Live a long, healthy life."

Yeah, they could've already been doing that, Didio, if you and Johns and the rest of your butt-kissing toadies would've just left people to do their thing a goddamn decade ago instead of constantly insisting you knew the best way to do everything and ended up ruining so much potential for those characters and those teams and MAKING ALL OF US PAY FOR IT.

But hey, Rebirth fixed everything so don't mind me.

Fortunately, I don't remember all the mistakes others have made, except the mistake of there being no Legion now. Look around the web and you'll hear the "scritch, scritch, scratching" of Legion fans concerning a group's former glories and disasters. And you'll also find that one Man's Legion was another man's worst disaster. If there ever is a "NEW" Legion... I suspect that will once again be one of the ground rules. Here's to hoping it's your cup-o-tea!

I was born (IRL) during "Zero-Hour". That's when many fans saw their "Legion"... the one that started in 1958, slip into the ether. I know none of those stories as anything but ancient history. My first exposure to the Legion was in 2006 as a 12 year old watching the (at the time) brandie new Legion Cartoon. I bought one of the Supergirl and the Legion Comics and found that Legion quite different from the one I was seeing on the Kid's WB, Yeah... the WB used to be a Network.

That Legion didn't last long and then there was a new one that was pre-52, post flashpoint... and that didn't last and then there was the New 52 Legion and a Legion Lost. I bought those with my own money, but they did keep getting more expensive. I'm buying Supergirl now for $3.99.

I don't much care who might write, draw a new Legion Book. I wish them well because I'll probably buy it and I hate getting ripped off. I hope it's a book that does not lose touch completely with the concept of optimism, every now and again, as the world is already full of enough crisis'. Bad guys, yes... but not that pure, dark pessimism that so many comics choke their readers on. well that's my 2¢.

One thing I liked about the Reboot / Post Zero Hour team was the sense of optimism and the relative camaraderie (compared to the Threeboot, or Preboot after the Adventure Era!) The Legion, in whatever incarnation, has always been about hope for the future, for me.