After Emily Sivana's fun and successful batch of Villain idols, let's switch it up a bit and do another Hero Idol!
For now, I want to get feedback on the characters for inclusion in this Idol. The theme is Justice Society and related teams (Infinity Inc., All-Star Squadron, Freedom Fighters, Seven Soldiers of Victory, Young All-Stars...)
The concept of an Idol game is that players get to vote for their FAVORITES, instead of voting for the characters they most want off the list.
In my Hero Idols, players have to rank their faves. The higher the rank, the more points a character gets. So your rank 1 might get 10 points, but rank 2 only gets 8, and so on. My rules are a bit different from Emily's.
Idol games typically produce lots of surprises. Many "popular" characters have been eliminated in the first few rounds of past games, while some relatively obscure or underdog characters have made it to the top (just look at the list of past winners below)!
For those not familiar, you may check out previous Idol games. Rules vary slightly but the concept is the same. In order of recency -
Justice League Idol (Winner: Barry Allen)
Titans Idol (Winner: Kole)
Multiverse Legion Idol (Winner: Kinetix)
Reboot Legion Idol (Winner: Triad)
Preboot Legion Idol (Winner: White Witch)
House Rules1) Each round will last about 48 hours. I will try to end each round at the same time, but this won't always be possible because of work.
2) I'll vote at the start of every round to minimize bias on my part.
3) I don't actively encourage editing of votes; it's a smart tactic but may be unfair for those who don't get to log on as often. However, I won't disallow them either. I'll only tally votes at the end of each round (to make it easier on myself!). I'll post on this thread the minute I start tallying to alert everyone; votes that come in after that will be ignored.
4) In case of errors in the results, I'll post a correction immediately. If anyone's vote was affected by the error, that poster will be notified by PM immediately. If the poster cannot correct his/her votes before the end of the round, he/she will get a makeup point next round - a +15 bonus. This only applies to instances where I made the error, and not where the poster made an error.
5) Points will be given based on your ranking. The higher you rank a character on your list, the more points that character will get (e.g. Rank 1 gets 10 points, Rank 2 gets 9 points...) Point distributions will change per round.
6) Exception to the above will be the first 1-2 rounds of the game, which trim the list down considerably. Each vote will count as one point, and characters below a certain point threshold get eliminated.
7) Because several characters have the same code name, and because the list includes multiple realities, PLEASE SPECIFY which character you are voting for. I won't make assumptions for votes which don't identify the character clearly. Example, if you vote for:
1) Superman
2) Maya
3) Elongated Man
4) Green Lantern (Pre-Flashpoint)
I'll only count the votes for Maya and Elongated Man. I have no way of knowing if you're voting for JLU Superman vs. Pre Flashpoint Superman, or whether you're voting for Hal, Kyle, Guy or John.
This pre-game round is to allow us to finalize the list of characters for the game. For obvious reasons, once we get past the first couple of rounds we can't just add characters to the list If you have any characters/realities you want to add, post here. Because the first rounds usually see massive eliminations, I'll be lenient in allowing characters to be added. The only criterion is the character has to be a member of a JSA-related team; honorary and reserve members are welcome, as are characters closely associated with the Soeciety whose membership is arguable (e.g. some sources would say that Ma Hunkel was never a member, but I think there are enough reasons to ler her in. Others would say that the Shade is a villain and should be excluded, but he has aided the JSA on occasion.)As of now I have seven different Super-Teams:
Justice Society
Infinity Inc.
All-Star Squadron
SSoSV
Freedom Fighters
Young All-Stars
Squadron of Justice
But I am only including Pre-Flashpoint and Post-Flashpoint versions. The JSA has been through so many retcons Pre-Flashpoint that I think trying to sort through all the versions would be too much work. Instead, I suggest we make our list of characters as inclusive as possible.
My initial list, sorted by the character's "main" team. (let me know if you have comments on the sorting, sometimes I think I should sort by code name instead as so many of these characters were members of multiple teams):
Team Version Character
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Air Wave (Lawrence Jordan)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Amazing Man (Will Everett)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Aquaman (Earth-2)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Arak, Son of Thunder
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Pirate
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawk (Janos Prohaska)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Andre)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Baker)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Boris)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Chop-Chop)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Chuck)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Hendrickson)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Miss Fear)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Olaf)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Stanislaus)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blackhawks (Zeg)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blue Beetle (Dan Garret)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Blue Boys (Tubby and Toughy)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Captain Marvel Jr.
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Captain Triumph
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Commander Steel
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Dr. Occult
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Fireball
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Firebrand (Danette Reilly)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Golden Gladiator
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Guardian (Jim Harper)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Johnny Quick
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Judomaster (Hadley "Rip" Jagger)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Kuei
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Lady Blackhawk (Zinda Blake)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Little Boy Blue
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Little Miss Redhead
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Manhunter (Paul Kirk)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mary Marvel
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Merlin the Magician
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Miss Liberty
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Newsboy Legion - Big Words
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Newsboy Legion - Gabby
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Newsboy Legion - Scrapper
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Newsboy Legion - Tommy Tompkins
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Phantasmo
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Quicksilver / Max Mercury
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Robotman (Robert Crane)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Sargon the Sorceror
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Silent Knight
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Speed Saunders
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Strong Bow
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Super-Chief
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Tarantula
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) The Squire
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Tiger
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) TNT
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Tor, the Magic Master
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Trigger Twins
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Valda the Iron Maiden
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Whip III (Rodney Gaynor)
(All-Star Squadron) (Pre-Flashpoint) Zatara
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Condor (John Trujillo)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Condor (Ryan Kendall)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Condor (Thomas Wright)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doll Man (Darrell Dane)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doll Man (Lester Colt)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Firebrand (Andre Twist)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Firebrand (Rod Reilly)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Human Bomb (Andy Franklin)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Human Bomb (Roy Lincoln)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Invisible Hood (Ken Thurston)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Invisible Hood (Kent Thurston)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Jester
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Magno
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Manhunter (Dan Richards)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Midnight
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Neon the Unknown
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Phantom Lady (Dee Tyler)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Phantom Lady (Sandra Knight)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Phantom Lady (Stormy Knight)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Plastic Man
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Ray (Happy Terrill)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Ray (Ray Terrill)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Ray (Stan Silver)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Red Bee (Jenna Raleigh)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Red Bee (Rick Raleigh)
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Red Torpedo
(Freedom Fighters) (Pre-Flashpoint) Uncle Sam
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Empathy
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Everyman
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Fury (Erik Storn)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Jade (Nicki Jones)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Matrix (Sierra)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Mercy Graves
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Nuklon (Gerome McKenna)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Skyman (Jacob Colby)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Starlight (Natasha Irons)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Steel (John Henry Irons)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint (Luthor)) Trajectory
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Brainwave, Jr.
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doctor Midnight (Beth Chapel)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Fury (Lyta Hall)
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Jade
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mister Bones
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Northwind
(Infinity Inc.) (Pre-Flashpoint) Wildcat (Yolanda Montez)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Accountable (James "Jimmy" Olsen)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Aquawoman (Marella)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Batman (Thomas Wayne)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Captain Steel (Henry "Hank" Heywood Jr.)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Doctor Fate (Khalid Ben-Hassin)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Red Arrow (Connor Hawke)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Red Tornado (Lois Lane)
(Justice Society) (New 52) Superman (Val-Zod)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Air Wave III (Harold Jordan)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Amazing Man (Markus Clay)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Anna Fortune
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Atom (Al Pratt)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Atom-Smasher/Nuklon (Al Rothstein)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Batman (Bruce Wayne of Earth-2)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Adam
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Canary (Dinah Drake Sr.)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Black Canary (Dinah Lance Jr.)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Captain Marvel
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Citizen Steel
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Cyclone
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Damage
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Darknight
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doctor Fate (Hector Hall)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doctor Fate (Kent V. Nelson)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doctor Mid-Nite (Charles McNider)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Doctor Mid-Nite (Pieter Cross)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Eclipso (Alex Montez)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Eclipso (Bruce Gordon)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Flash (Jay Garrick)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Hawkgirl (Kendra Saunders)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Hawkgirl (Shiera Sanders)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Hawkman (Carter Hall)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Hourman (Matthew Tyler)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Hourman (Rex Tyler)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Hourman (Rick Tyler)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Huntress (Helena Wayne of Earth-2)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Jakeem Thunder
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Johnny Thunder
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Judomaster (Sonia Sato)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) King Chimera
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Liberty Belle (Libby Lawrence)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Liberty Belle/Jesse Quick
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Lightning
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Magog
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Manhunter (Kate Spencer)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Miss America
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mister America (Jeffrey Graves)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mister Terrific (Michael Holt)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mister Terrific (Terry Sloane)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Nemesis (Soseh Mykros)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Obsidian
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Power Girl
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Red Beetle
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Red Tornado (John Smith/Ulthoon)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Red Tornado (Ma Hunkle)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Ri
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Robin (Dick Grayson of Earth-2)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Roxy
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Sand/Sandman (Sanderson Hawkins)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Sandman (Wesley Dodds)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Shade
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Spectre (Jim Corrigan)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Stargirl
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Starman (Jack Knight)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Starman (Ted Knight)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Starman (Thom Kallor)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Star-Spangled Kid/Skyman
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Superman (Kal-El of Earth-2)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Superman (Kal-El of Earth-22)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Thunderbolt
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Wildcat (Ted Grant)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Wildcat (Tom Bronson)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Wonder Woman (Diana of Earth-2)
(Justice Society) (Pre-Flashpoint) Wonder Woman (Hippolyta)
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Bulletgirl
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Bulletman
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Commando Yank
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Ibis the Invincible
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Minute-Man
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mister Scarlet
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Phantom Eagle
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Pinky the Whiz Kid
(Squadron of Justice) (Pre-Flashpoint) Spy Smasher (Alan Armstrong)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Adam Strange
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Alias the Spider
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Billy Gunn
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Boy Blue
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Bulleteer
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Crimson Avenger (Lee Travis)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Deadman
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Dyno-Mite Dan
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Frankenstein
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Gimmix
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Green Arrow (Oliver Queen of Earth-2)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) I, Spyder
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Klarion the Witch Boy
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Manhattan Guardian
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mento
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Metamorpho
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Mister Miracle (Shilo Norman)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Shining Knight (Gardner Grayle)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Shining Knight (Sir Justin)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Shining Knight (Ystina)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Speedy (Roy Harper of Earth-2)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Stripesy/STRIPE
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Stuff the Chinatown Kid
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Vigilante (Greg Saunders)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Whip (Shelly Gaynor)
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Wing
(SSoSV) (Pre-Flashpoint) Zatanna
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Dan the Dyna-Mite
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Flying Fox
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Fury (Helena Kosmatos)
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Iron Munro
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Neptune Perkins
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Tigress (Paula Brooks)
(Young All-Stars) (Pre-Flashpoint) Tsunami
Let me know if you want to make additions, omissions or have any other comments.
Looking forward to the game and to the discussion that is sure to come from it!