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And did Raven really get the emotional support she needed from Wally West? I think not.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Gen X > Space X
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No kidding! Jeebus, People! Cut Terry some slack here! Look at the rest of the male role models in the Wolfman/Perez-verse.
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 Maybe I never really noticed Terry was a big problem to have around, since Dick spent a lot of time being not-real-nice to his own girlfriend during the same period. Then there was Gar going Senator Packwood on pretty much every female person he saw. Given that he looked all of 14 or 15 at the time, that's at least as retroactively creepy as anything Terry got up to with Donna. At least by that time Donna appeared to have been of legal age. Time and perspective eventually ruins everything you once loved.  Hmmm. This almost puts them behind Terry Long!
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Steve Dayton's wife got killed on an island! Killed! What was he doing?!
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^^Funnily enough, I've been re-reading the Silver Age Doom Patrol. It's good stuff, but, Jeez Louise, Steve Dayton was a twerp!
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That's how I remember him too. Later on, he'd project his consciousness into the native of another planet. Braal or something, it was called.
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LOL
Could be, could be.
And as much as I love Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run, it always amuses me at the climax of "American Gothic" how Steve Dayton's beard comes and goes depending on who's doing the art.
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Oh that's his "Grow Your Own Niles Caulder Disguise Kit." It takes awhile to grow, but you can take it on or off right from the start.
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LOL
This discussion makes me think, we should really have an All-Doom Patrol thread either in this forum of Gym'll's. There's DP threads in Gy'mll's, but they're about the versions from the last 15 years.
I do believe I shall start one right now...
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And there's always an Animal Vegetable Mineral Man quiz thread to do for Spaceopoly. 
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Now that I think about it, wasn't Vic also kind of big jerk to women, too? His dad wasn't a very good role model either... Then you have Jericho in Games, who had like 8 girlfriends simultaneously. And don't tell me he only saw them as friends! He left an answering machine message on each of their phones when the Titans were gathering their loved ones!
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And there's always an Animal Vegetable Mineral Man quiz thread to do for Spaceopoly. Go for it, Thoth, go for it! 
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And did Raven really get the emotional support she needed from Wally West? I think not. Well, there's the whole "she brainwashed him" thing to consider, there...
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That's just a cover for his Blue Valley brain falling for the first daughter of a demon to flutter her eyelashes at him, on all four eyes.
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Hmmm... and Frances Kane was accused of being possessed by a demon.
I am sensing a pattern here...
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Imagine Wally's confused disappointment when she wasn't really possessed at all, but just had a horrid mother and magnetic powers. Now, Raven was the real deal... but how to reconcile his attraction with his conservative upbringing? Ah, the old "I've been brainwashed. Lots" trick.
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Wanderer
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What about that whiny Titan of Myth guy, Coeus, who basically went along with the other Titans rewriting Donna's memories and brainwashing her into subservience as the new goddess of the moon.
Which also pretty much doubles as raping her since she never consented until after they messed with her mind. And he's STILL portrayed as sympathetic.
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Time Trapper
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What about that whiny Titan of Myth guy, Coeus, who basically went along with the other Titans rewriting Donna's memories and brainwashing her into subservience as the new goddess of the moon.
Which also pretty much doubles as raping her since she never consented until after they messed with her mind. And he's STILL portrayed as sympathetic. I got that creepy rape vibe when I recently read that storyline for the first time, as well....
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I picked up on the vibes with Coeus after finding out about the New Teen Titans story where Hyperion was brainwashing Donna into loving him.
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I don't think I've read the Coeus one, but I did remember the Hyperion one as being very creepy when I read that.
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I thought Sarky referred to the Hyperion one as well, but I couldn't remember the name. If you're saying it happened a second time, that's pretty damn disturbing.
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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I had to revive this old thread to point out that her post-Terry rebound was Kyle Raynor, who admitted he had a poster of her in his bedroom when he was a teenager. Pretty gross adolescent groupie fantasy vibe from that one, as well.
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BF, that's a LOL if I've ever seen one!  Donna the Cougar. Meeeee-OWW! And I'll bet Kyle's favorite song around 5th or 6th grade was The Outfield's "Your Love," about the guy who likes his women "...a little bit older."
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BF, that's a LOL if I've ever seen one! Donna the Cougar. Meeeee-OWW! And I'll bet Kyle's favorite song around 5th or 6th grade was The Outfield's "Your Love," about the guy who likes his women "...a little bit older."Actually Donna and Kyle were the same age back in the post-crisis pre-nu52 dcu
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Eh.
Continuity, shmontinuity.
Let's have more Donna the Cougar jokes instead.
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