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Really surprised to see Vandal Savage go. He's a top tier villain, who's an imoortal threat to the Titans, JSA and probably the JLA too. He was the most brutal of villains in Kingdom Come.

In the way that Deadshot did so well in the last Idol, I thought that the second Thinker would also do better. Not only a recurring antagonist n Firestorm, before he got powers, but a nasty sociopath over in Suicide Squad.

I like Vandal Savage but he's not who I think of when I think of Flash villains. He would get probably get more points from me in a JSA Villain Idol.

This is the same reason why I'll be turning on Magenta shortly. I've been giving her the highest points each round so far but that's mainly beacuse she's one of my favourite Titans characters.

I really didn't like it when they went down the crazy villain road with her in the Flash books, especially when Geoff Johns had her hanging out with all those murderers during his 'Rogue War' arc.

The Thinker and Goldface are other characters I associate more with other properties (JSA and Green Lantern respectively).

The post Crisis Flash relaunch had Savage as a major early villain. It was disappointing that more wasn't done with him at the time.

Just noticed this looking at the active topics screen.

In the short run (no pun intended), Savage didn't get enough face time, but in the long run he was at the top of his game in the superb 3-part arc running from Flash 48 to 50, written by Bill Loebs and drawn by Greg LaRocque, both at the top of their game as well. If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it.

Please join the game, it is a lot of fun. LSV Idol will start probably a month after this one is over, but after that I want to do a Marvel one (probably Spider-Villain) for the sake of my sanity. There tends to be more resources for Marvel characters (websites, books, official statistics) so it is easier for me to compile the data and host.

Top 35
Abra Kadabra
Big Sir
Blacksmith
Captain Boomerang
Captain Boomerang II
Captain Cold
Christina Alexandrova
Chunk
Clive Yorkin
Colonel Computron
Dr. Alchemy
Eradicator
Golden Glider
Gorilla Grodd
Heatwave
Kilg%re
Magenta
Mirror Master
Mirror Master II
Mr.Element I
Peek-a-Boo
Pied Piper
Professor Zoom
Rag Doll
Rainbow Raider
Savitar
The Eel (Golden Age)
The Gambler
The Shade
The Suit
The Thinker (Golden Age)
The Top
The Turtle (Golden Age)
Top 35
Trickster I
Weather Wizard

My Votes
Abra Kadabra 5
Big Sir 1
Blacksmith 10
Captain Boomerang 5
Captain Boomerang II 10
Captain Cold 10
Christina Alexandrova 5
Chunk 1
Clive Yorkin 1
Colonel Computron 1
Dr. Alchemy 1
Eradicator 1
Golden Glider 5
Gorilla Grodd 10
Heatwave 5
Kilg%re 1
Magenta 10
Mirror Master 10
Mirror Master II 10
Mr.Element I 1
Peek-a-Boo 5
Pied Piper 5
Professor Zoom 10
Rag Doll 5
Rainbow Raider 1
Savitar 5
The Eel (Golden Age) 1
The Gambler 10
The Shade 10
The Suit 1
The Thinker (Golden Age) 10
The Top 10
The Turtle (Golden Age) 10
Trickster I 10
Weather Wizard 10

I may just do that, Emily. Thank you.

And I apologize if it was inappropriate of me to make that post, it's just that I really love that Wally vs Vandal Savage story.

I don't mind the commentary at all; I usually give it more time between rounds on purpose if people are commenting. The most important thing is that people are having fun.

Thanks again, Emily.

I was just looking over the first few pages of the thread, including the rules. I'll join in tomorrow, when I'm less tired and have a clearer head.

Abra Kadabra 8
Big Sir 5
Blacksmith 8
Captain Boomerang 10
Captain Boomerang II 7
Captain Cold 9
Christina Alexandrova 5
Chunk 8
Clive Yorkin 10
Colonel Computron 5
Dr. Alchemy 6
Eradicator 1
Golden Glider 5
Gorilla Grodd 8
Heatwave 7
Kilg%re 1
Magenta 7
Mirror Master 8
Mirror Master II 9
Mr.Element I 6
Peek-a-Boo 7
Pied Piper 7
Professor Zoom 7
Rag Doll 5
Rainbow Raider 4
Savitar 1
The Eel (Golden Age) 1
The Gambler 3
The Shade 2
The Suit 1
The Thinker (Golden Age) 3
The Top 8
The Turtle (Golden Age) 7
Trickster I 7
Weather Wizard 7

Alas, poor Clive Yorkin doesn't look long for this game. As a kid I found him so scary looking, more like something out of a horror comic than the Flash. And he was freaky in the books, not only was he deadly, he was a complete psychopath! And then he killed Iris! Later of course, it turns out he didn't, but 6-year old me still found him really terrifying.

Abra Kadabra 6
Big Sir 4
Blacksmith 5
Captain Boomerang 6
Captain Boomerang II 9
Captain Cold 7
Christina Alexandrova 1
Chunk 2
Clive Yorkin 1
Colonel Computron 6
Dr. Alchemy 5
Eradicator 1
Golden Glider 10
Gorilla Grodd 4
Heatwave 6
Kilg%re 2
Magenta 7
Mirror Master 3
Mirror Master II 7
Mr.Element I 4
Peek-a-Boo 2
Pied Piper 6
Professor Zoom 1
Rag Doll 8
Rainbow Raider 8
Savitar 2
The Eel (Golden Age) 6
The Gambler 5
The Shade 10
The Suit 1
The Thinker (Golden Age) 10
The Top 10
The Turtle (Golden Age) 10
Trickster I 6
Weather Wizard 4

This.

Abra Kadabra 10
Big Sir 10
Blacksmith 1
Captain Boomerang 10
Captain Boomerang II 10
Captain Cold 10
Christina Alexandrova 1
Chunk 10
Clive Yorkin 1
Colonel Computron 1
Dr. Alchemy 1
Eradicator 1
Golden Glider 1
Gorilla Grodd 10
Heatwave 1
Kilg%re 1
Magenta 10
Mirror Master 10
Mirror Master II 10
Mr.Element I 1
Peek-a-Boo 10
Pied Piper 10
Professor Zoom 1
Rag Doll 1
Rainbow Raider 10
Savitar 1
The Eel (Golden Age) 1
The Gambler 1
The Shade 10
The Suit 10
The Thinker (Golden Age) 1
The Top 1
The Turtle (Golden Age) 1
Trickster I 10
Weather Wizard 10

Thanks Fickles. I haven't read that one. My reading in that run stops in the early 20s and doesn't return until the 80s or even towards the 100 for a while.

Abra Kadabra 8
Big Sir 8
Blacksmith 1
Captain Boomerang 8
Captain Boomerang II 1
Captain Cold 8
Christina Alexandrova 1
Chunk 8
Clive Yorkin 1
Colonel Computron 8
Dr. Alchemy 8
Eradicator 8
Golden Glider 5
Gorilla Grodd 8
Heatwave 8
Kilg%re 8
Magenta 8
Mirror Master 8
Mirror Master II 8
Mr.Element I 5
Peek-a-Boo 1
Pied Piper 5
Professor Zoom 8
Rag Doll 8
Rainbow Raider 5
Savitar 1
The Eel (Golden Age) 8
The Gambler 8
The Shade 8
The Suit 8
The Thinker (Golden Age) 8
The Top 5
The Turtle (Golden Age) 8
Trickster I 8
Weather Wizard 8

Abra Kadabra...10
Big Sir...10
Blacksmith...1
Captain Boomerang...1
Captain Boomerang II...1
Captain Cold...1
Christina Alexandrova...1
Chunk...1
Clive Yorkin...10
Colonel Computron...10
Dr. Alchemy...10
Eradicator...10
Golden Glider...10
Gorilla Grodd...1
Heatwave...1
Kilg%re...1
Magenta...10 (I just can't quit you, Frances)
Mirror Master...10
Mirror Master II...1
Mr.Element I...10
Peek-a-Boo...1
Pied Piper...10
Professor Zoom...10
Rag Doll...1
Rainbow Raider...10
Savitar...1
The Eel (Golden Age)...1
The Gambler...1
The Shade...1
The Suit...1
The Thinker (Golden Age)...1
The Top...10
The Turtle (Golden Age)...1
Trickster I...10
Weather Wizard...10

Okay, Emily, I'm officially in as of now, and I hope I did this right:

Top 35
Abra Kadabra 1
Big Sir 1
Blacksmith 1
Captain Boomerang 10
Captain Boomerang II 1
Captain Cold 1
Christina Alexandrova 10
Chunk 1
Clive Yorkin 1
Colonel Computron 1
Dr. Alchemy 1
Eradicator 1
Golden Glider 10
Gorilla Grodd 10
Heatwave 1
Kilg%re 10
Magenta 10
Mirror Master 1
Mirror Master II 10
Mr.Element I 1
Peek-a-Boo 1
Pied Piper 10
Professor Zoom 10
Rag Doll 1
Rainbow Raider 10
Savitar 10
The Eel (Golden Age) 1
The Gambler 1
The Shade 10
The Suit 1
The Thinker (Golden Age) 1
The Top 1
The Turtle (Golden Age) 1
Trickster I 10
Weather Wizard 1

I'm not sure I understand how to vote but I'm giving it a shot! Please let me know if I need to edit anything...

Abra Kadabra 8
Big Sir 1
Blacksmith 1
Captain Boomerang 5
Captain Boomerang II 2
Captain Cold 10
Christina Alexandrova 1
Chunk 2
Clive Yorkin 1
Colonel Computron 1
Dr. Alchemy 3
Eradicator 2
Golden Glider 3
Gorilla Grodd 7
Heatwave 5
Kilg%re 10
Magenta 10
Mirror Master 3
Mirror Master II 10
Mr.Element I 1
Peek-a-Boo 10
Pied Piper 10
Professor Zoom 10
Rag Doll 5
Rainbow Raider 2
Savitar 2
The Eel (Golden Age) 1
The Gambler 1
The Shade 7
The Suit 1
The Thinker (Golden Age) 1
The Top 3
The Turtle (Golden Age) 2
Trickster I 8
Weather Wizard 7

Please edit the 0s. Please only use numbers from 1-10 for now. I can't accept the 0 votes because it will skew the data too much. Once we narrow the characters down further, we will end up changing the scale.

I suggest reposting instructions and scale every round to reduce confusion

Fixed! (I hope!) Honestly, I really wasn't sure if there was a total the numbers should add up to or if I could only do a certain number of high votes or what have you.

Due to the higher turn out, I am giving a warning as to when votes close tonight. Please post any last minute votes by 9:00 P.M Central Time today.

The winner is shining brightly in pink.

Top 35
Magenta 72 100%
Trickster I 69 96%
Mirror Master II65 90%
Pied Piper 63 88%
Gorilla Grodd 58 81%
The Shade 58 81%
Professor Zoom 57 79%
Weather Wizard 57 79%
Abra Kadabra 56 77%
Captain Cold 56 77%
Captain Boomerang 55 76%
Golden Glider 54 75%
Mirror Master 53 74%

Close to Elimination
Rainbow Raider 50 69%
The Top 48 67%
Captain Boomerang II 41 57%
Big Sir 40 56%
The Turtle (Golden Age) 40 56%
Peek-a-Boo 37 53%
Dr. Alchemy 35 49%
The Thinker (Golden Age) 35 49%

Eliminated This Round

Heatwave 34 47%
Kilg%re 34 47%
Rag Doll 34 47%
Chunk 33 46%
Colonel Computron 33 46%
The Gambler 30 42%
Eradicator 29 40%
Mr.Element I 29 40%
Blacksmith 28 39%
Clive Yorkin 26 35%
Christina Alexandrova 25 34%
The Suit 24 33%
Savitar 23 32%
The Eel (Golden Age) 20 28%

Next round will start tomorrow evening.

Aww, I like Kilg%re! Although I mostly know him from the JLU and it was pretty different, so I guess it's not that sad. I will admit I was pretty disappointed that Girder didn't make it too far. He was one of the first Rogues I thought of when I saw this thread and I'm definitely a fan.

I'll admit some of my fondness for Magenta comes from roleplaying her in my past life. I also adore the Pied Piper to pieces - he's probably one of my all-time favorite characters ever. I may like him more than Wally and some of you may recall Wally is my fave like whoa.

I thought the Suit was interesting.

I'm sad that the Chunk left, although I guess he's not really an out and out villain as of pre-Flashpoint. But still.

The suit reminded me of the old Justice League stories where they fought their costumes.

I liked Chunk's early appearances, but he wasn't really a villain for me, so I was going to reduce points for him sooner or later.

Kilg%re was also around at the same time as Chunk, so those issues have held up in my memory probably more than I thought they would.


That's something I can also say about Infantino art. I was never a great fan of it, but I can't imagine the Eradicator or Colonel Computron drawn by anyone else.

Rag Doll was great in the JLA/JSA crossovers, again in Starman and was he in a secret six sort of thing too? None of which are the Flash, so for me it was a matter of time before I gave him fewer points.