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Wanderer
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I have no idea, but the first time we're shown this is after she's done, and she's in a bedroom with the poor shmuck.
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Time Trapper
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 SHE MUST KILL 'EM WITH HER COOTER!!!  Also... SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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Wanderer
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Not a fan of Zarda now being a succubus like the Power Princess of "Supreme Power." It's one of the worst tropes - that a woman of power gets her strength by draining the essence of men. (and in a way that was strongly suggestive of being sexual in nature)
I've always liked the Squadron, but this title is beginning to pile up more negatives than pluses for me...
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More Polyanna than Poison Ivy
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More Polyanna than Poison Ivy
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Well said, Drake. This thing with Zarda's new status quo is disgusting.
Do what I do, make a statement by not buying any more issues.
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Tempus Fugitive
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Oh, yucks. I was sorta kidding with my suggestive comment. Another character bites the dust.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Wanderer
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I've realized there was some interesting subtext around Foxfire and Mink in the Gruenwald series.
Foxfire is brainwashed into being good by the Squadron, but after it's undone Foxfire doesn't become a villain again thanks in a way to her relationship with Doctor Spectrum.
Mink ends up joining Nighthawk's rebellion mostly because it's the only option she and the other villains have, but by working with Nighthawk and her feelings for him she gradually becomes something of a heroic character.
Foxfire's love for Doctor Spectrum, created through an unnatural means even though the process is undone, is what leads to her death after killing Nighthawk to stop his team. And who should kill Foxfire? Mink, who survives and gained love for Nighthawk in a natural way.
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Long live the Legion!
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Long live the Legion!
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Zarda did the life-drain thing in the last Supreme Power series, although it was pretty much whoever was on-hand, and not some sort of succubus action. When she first appeared, she'd been in a cave for a long time (suggested centuries, at least, if not millennia) and was extremely old (as in, nearly a mummy), and aged-to-death the people who woke her up (women who, it seemed, worshipped her), turning young and beautiful again in the process. Later in the series, she discovered a gray hair after using her power and freaked out and killed some random person to 'power up' again.
She's a pretty scary character...
That said, I read the first issue, with the off-hand destruction of Atlantis and Namor, and decided that I was done with this series, even if I was looking forward to seeing Blur, from DP7, and Thundra.
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Wanderer
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Yeah but the Zarda in Supreme Power isn't the Zarda in the current Squadron Supreme series. THAT Zarda's from the Mark Gruenwald 12 issue series.
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Wanderer
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Whoops. Looks like I jumped the gun and I apologize. The Zarda in this book is actually Warrior Woman from the Secret Wars Squadron Sinister series in disguise. Also Doctor Druid is back and is a villain again.
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Wanderer
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Even though I'm not buying the regular SS book, I'm interested in the Hyperion and Nighthawk series that should be starting in a bit.
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Fighting Back
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Fighting Back
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It's been almost six years since the last time I gave the Squadron Supreme a reappraisal. The big news is: I finally *get* what was great about the 12-part Mark Gruenwald maxi-series. I can now forgive Gruenwald's writing-technique flaws enough to fully appreciate what he *did* accomplish. This *is* a legitimate novel. It's every bit as good, or better, than whatever prose science-fiction novels were out there back in '85-'86! Belated kudos have to go to the project's editor, Ralph Macchio, also a good friend of Gru, as well as his co-writer on "Marvel Two-In-One" and "Thor." Along with the Ann Nocenti Daredevil, the Steve Epting Avengers, and the Walter Simonson Fantastic Four trifecta of excellent runs on monthly series, Ralf has this to point to and prove to skeptics that he's a lot more than "Not the Actor Who Played the Karate Kid." Here's what I thought previously. (And I still have to re-re-read the OGN and the late-90s one-shot.) So I've been reacquainting myself with the Squadron Supreme. I had never been as much of a fan of their as I was of the Imperial Guard, but I came to feel that perhaps the Squadron deserved a reappraisal.
I started with Mark Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme maxi-series. I'd always considered this one overrated and, truth be told, the re-read didn't change my mind. We still have Gruenwald's recurring problems with pace, structure, and, especially, dialogue, the last of which is just too cheesy and/or cutesy. It doesn't help that Gruenwald makes Dr. Spectrum more like Guy Gardner than Hal Jordan. Or that the whole Golden Archer/Lady Lark thing is just too creepy for words, even if Archer does die seeking redemption. Finally, there's the matter of the art. The only issue that really impresses is the one penciled by John Buscema and inked by Butch Guice. Otherwise, we have flat and uninspired work from both Bob Hall in the early issues and Paul Ryan in the later issues.
The Death of the Universe GN, on the other hand, is a pleasant surprise. Gruenwald overcomes his tics to deliver a heartbreaking story with moments of genuine and well-earned shock (I'm particularly thinking of Overmind's head exploding...wow.) Paul Ryan does the best art of his career, aided immeasurably by the inks of the late, great Al Williamson.
The New World Order one-shot was the most pleasant surprise of all, but then I should have expected no less from Len Kaminski, who wrote what I consider the most underrated Iron Man run ever, the one which introduced War Machine and brought back Bethany Cabe. I'm not the biggest fan of the JLA's Big Seven lineup, but I love the Squadron Supreme as the Big Seven. Skymax is written the way that Martian Manhunter should always be written but seldom is, having the Robin analogue take over as Nighthawk is brilliant, and I love the Phantom Stranger analog, Mysterium. The Anthony Williams/Andy Lanning art is not great, but perfectly adequate, thanks largely, I suspect, to Lanning's inking.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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