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#87309 07/23/09 01:22 PM
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[b]The 5YL isn't the original Legion. The original Legion were wiped from existance in Crisis on Infinite Earths, just like the original Superman, Jimmy Olsen etc. After COIE there was a very similar Legion that had the Pocket Universe Mon-El/Superboy instead of the real deal and no Supergirl/Elastic Lad/Insect Queen.

That reality was wiped away when Mon-El destroyed the Trapper and created the Mordruverse which in turn spawned the Glorithverse. The Legion of the Glorithverse (ie 5YL) had no Superboy/Supergirl, but did have Valor, Laurel Gand, Kid Quantum, Triad, the Proty-Garth and Sean Erin, so was nowhere like the original Legion. The Johnsboot for all its faults is far closer to the original than the 5YL.
This is a defensible position to take, but you have to admit that it's equally defensible to say that the post-CoIE and Glorithverse Legions followed on continuously from the original Legion and should be treated as the original Legion for most purposes.[/b]
I spent the whole 5YL saying "No way that wasn't how it happened" or "No way he/she wouldn't do that" or "No way that person doesn't exist" so I would not say it is defensible to claim it as the original Legion. TMK took the original Legion and put it through a mincer. Admittedly some of the changes were forced on them by corporate policy but much of it wasn't. 'Whatever happened to Kid Quantum' ground the original Legion in the dirt for no reason other than TMK could.


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#87310 07/23/09 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Silver Age Lad:
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Originally posted by Matthew E:
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Originally posted by Silver Age Lad:
[b]The 5YL isn't the original Legion. The original Legion were wiped from existance in Crisis on Infinite Earths,

That reality was wiped away when Mon-El destroyed the Trapper and created the Mordruverse which in turn spawned the Glorithverse.
This is a defensible position to take, but you have to admit that it's equally defensible to say that the post-CoIE and Glorithverse Legions followed on continuously from the original Legion and should be treated as the original Legion for most purposes.[/b]
I spent the whole 5YL saying "No way that wasn't how it happened" or "No way he/she wouldn't do that" [/b]
I had a completely different response. The first four issues, really spoke to me as Legion after a crisis (small c, lol). #5 This was "a" legion, the characters acted as I expected under different circumstances but still very much Legion. I took it as intended, a different reality. After #5 I don't recall ever thinking that those common characters from before and after #5 were different, only that some were missing and replaced by others. To me, it was still the same Legion because they acted the same, aged by their experiences.

Funny I never thought of it any different but post ZH, I did. The most recent I did.

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