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I never imagined the world needed a "Telos" series, but this might be a place where we get some Legion-related goodness.

http://www.newsarama.com/25871-cosmic-dcu-gets-renewed-focus-with-telos.html

He mentions the UP, Colu, there's an image of Validus and he mentions Stealth, (from LEGION?) but is this the same one who died, an alt universe version or someone else?? (altough there's an image of someone kinda dressed like Stealth, but from the coloring looks more like Phase (Tinya)). I didn't read Convergence, so I don't know who that would be...

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Telos #1 also reveals that that main villain is a Legion Villain ruling Colu (who's controlling Validus to boot).....

Computo.

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And the leader of the Coluan resistance is a woman! I'm sold!


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On Newsarama ...from the New York Comic Con:

"Harley is different," Palmiotti said, saying that Conner couldn't make the convention because she was finishing Harley Quinn's Big Black Book, a 38-page team-up book with Wonder Woman and the first appearance of the London Legion of Superheroes. "One of them's called the Pub-Crawler."


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I think that the current group over at DC-- editors, writers and all, conflate the Legion of Super-Heroes with Normalman's Legion of Superfluous Heroes-- they treat it all as a joke.

Of course, there is a relatively well-known interview with comedian and 'intellectual' John Hodgman in which he discusses his love for the Legion:

"The Legion of Super-Heroes is, at its core, ridiculous: a teenage superhero club in the far future with something like 75 members and whose powers range from god-like invulnerability and strength to more esoteric skills, like the ability to make things heavy or bounce high."

And I think whoever is in charge at DC has taken 'ridiculous' to heart.

But they ignore what he said following that comment:

"Then, over a years-long run, Paul Levitz, often in collaboration with artist Keith Giffen, did the most ridiculous thing of all: they took it seriously. He didn't throw out the silly stuff, but used it all to create a fully realized future world. When you start caring about a character called Matter-Eater Lad, that's some pretty deft writing."

This is what I remember.

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I don't think the "Telos" series shows the Legion mythos being treated as a joke. I thought it was quite promising.


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Originally Posted by Klar Ken T5477
.....a fully realized future world...


I'm not at all certain that I would equate what they did as "fully realized".

Specifically to Giffen, I feel that he invested as much effort into the title as most of us do to slice of pizza.

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We all have different perspectives, depending on our experiences with "our" Legions.

I think that the Levitz / Giffen team-up Hodgman refers to is the Baxter era, possibly specifically the Great Darkness Saga. Whatever their later work may have been, there is undeniably (OK, go ahead and deny it) a lot of effort put into that period. Every active Legionnaire appeared in at least one panel in each issue for a couple of years, and multiple story-lines were juggled with dexterity.

Plus, they invented Interlac.

Fanfic Lady: I was personally pretty unimpressed with the "Legion of Super-Heroes vs. Atomic Knights". Yes, I saw it as a slight to the Legion. Basically a "Bambi-vs-Godzilla" joke. And shrug artwork.

Like I say, we all see things from different perspectives.


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Wow, Klar, _thank_ you for making my day with a "Bambi-vs-Godzilla" reference smile


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Superman: Lois and Clark confirms that the pre-Crisis Supergirl is alive somewhere in the DC Multiverse.

But Clark, Lois, and their son are living in the DCnU... and have been there ever since the first Justice League arc with Darkseid.

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While not a direct Legion reference, in "Justice League 3001" Giffen has a couple of robotic henchmen who are another riff on the old strip "Alfonse and Gaston" - a reference he used before for "Algronsk and Kaston" from 5YL LSH #2 (the robots who hunt Jo)

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Validus makes an appearance in Telos #2 and #3. Hope there's a current Legion tie-in to follow after!


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Oh God $%^**(^*(^.

A version of Imra appears in JL 3001... as a villain.

Working for Lady Styx.

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Surprised it took them this long.

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Well now I'm definitely avoiding JL3001.

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Originally Posted by Sarcasm Kid
Oh God $%^**(^*(^.

A version of Imra appears in JL 3001... as a villain.

Working for Lady Styx.


Some of the other characters present could also be Legionnaires... like Timber Wolf, Wildfire...


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Maybe they are deliberately distancing the Legion from the rest of the DCU so they can sell the property to someone who actually cares enough to do it right.


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Originally Posted by the Hermit
Maybe they are deliberately distancing the Legion from the rest of the DCU so they can sell the property to someone who actually cares enough to do it right.


That... that actually terrifies me even more.

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The "Legion of Death", from JLA3001 #12, due in May.
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^^Disgusting.


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This is not our Legion... this is not our Legion... this is not our Legion...

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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
This is not our Legion... this is not our Legion... this is not our Legion...

Takes away the sting smile


True, but it's a good anti-Legion for one of those alternate universe stories in which you meet the criminal version of yourself.

I kind of like Quislet as a sea mine. He did make things explode.

I think of Legion 3001 more as the sort of satire you'd find in Mad Magazine and enjoy it for that. If the above image was the official new Legion version, however, I wouldn't buy the book. Too negative - it's what they did with Batman at one point and I pretty much gave up on the character.


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Agree with FC. On its own it is not a bad concept - as long as it does not replace our other Legions.

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It's a shame they're reduced to echoes and shadows. Probably due to not having the creative talent (definitely including editorial) to keep the actual Legion going.

There are one or two nice touches to the picture, as an alternate version. But it's not going to make me go anywhere near the title.



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