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Originally posted by Reboot: Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: [b]DB, I think they will be explaining how TMK fits into this all too, given John's reference to the Pocket Universe Superboy story. It read to me like they were going to explain why it didn't fit into it, as opposed to showing how it fit:[/b]I can see each interpretation, but it seems pointless to me to even try to decide whether it will fit/not-fit, whether it will explain continuity or not; I'm not gonig to worry about it until it comes out. it seems many people rush to pre-judge any book by the advance hype/previews/interviews rather than new projects themselves. working one's self into a lather and deciding to dislike it in advance is of course anyone's right, but I fail to see the point. I am hoping for (1) a fun story involving multiple incarnations of the legion, (2) a well-written story, and (3) something that leaves the door open to further uses of all three (especially the Action legion). If the Challengers of the Unknown get a new crack at life now and again, even the Reboot Legion should, too (not a diss, I enjoyed a lot of Reboot Legion - just referring to its overall sales pattern). That's what I'm hoping for. I don't give a rat's arse about continuity (or rather "continuity") for the sake of continuity; fans often expect (and get) too much explanation instead of story anymore, it seems... a nasty trend that really entrenched itself with COIE, it seems.
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I'll probably read it because I'm a sucker for almost anything Legion. But I can't say this sounds particularly appealing. Like I've said before, I like Johns' writing on Action but some of his other writing has left me cold and these crossover things are generally gimmicky and annoying. I usually try to avoid them. As for Perez, his stuff is okay but he's a bit formulaic and reminds me too much of the 80s.
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Yay that means Nura Nura Nura - Nurra X 3 YAY!
I am wondering if Shooter will have any input to this story - he always did say there were certain things he doesnt like about the current Legion. I wonder if anything that happens in this story that will carry over into Shooter's book. Or will there be 2 diff Legions by the end which are a mixture of all Legions.
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i can imagone that this is going to be bad book i cant wait amd was super pissed that im going to have to wait months to read it
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If they merge all 3 Legions, I imagine the resulting final team will have no duplicates and no dead legionnaires. Dream Girl, Karate Kid, Chemical King and a triple Luornu, plus Ferro Lad, Andromeda, Monstress, Colossal Boy, all back and healthy.
And when they start running out of story ideas they will start picking them off again, of course.
Maybe someone should start a thread where everyone picks their dream Legion team. For example you might pick Adventure era's Lightning Lad to be on the team but prefer DnA's Triad.
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Cautiously optimistic is my initial reaction.
Yes, the Perez art has a retro 80's feel. We've seen Perez do series jam packed full of super heroes so many times that it doesn't have an immediate "wow" impact. On the other hand, it really is a shame that Perez never got a run on the Legion back in the 80's. His covers were great, and he did a nice job with the Legionnaires who appeared in Crisis on Infinite Earths. Being such a big Legion fan, I think I will have much more fun picking characters out of the pack and looking for all the detail on this book than I did on JLA/Avengers.
I'm also pleased to see that DC is doing a big Legion storyline in the 50th anniversary year. We got the Action storyline, Shooter's return to the Legion, we're getting a collected edition, and now a big crossover event. We can argue about the quality or merits of each of these projects, but we can't say that the Legion was ignored. We would have been insulted if DC hadn't made some kind of attempt. DC gets so much grief over just about everything they do these days. It just seems right to acknowledge that they are making an effort. Anniversary projects often have a retro quality about them, so perhaps Perez is the appropriate choice for the art.
I've always felt that the reboot Legion deserved more of a send off, and a chance to be wrapped up, than it received in the Teen Titan's/Legion special. I hope we will, at least, get some resolution for that team.
I do fear that it could turn into the bloodbath that others are predicting. You would think that DC would have gotten the message by now that readers are tired and turned off by that approach. I hope they have. I'm not convinced, though.
We've seen DC's attempts to fix continuity go astray and make matters worse enough times that we have to be concerned about that possibility. It really is possible that a story can be told that gives a plausible explanation for the bulk of the contradictions. I really hope this is it, but I don't want to get my hopes too high.
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While I'm also not expecting much from the conclusion, I'll still be getting this for a glimpse of the post Zero Hour Legion. Gates, Kinetix and XS had better be there!
I wonder if Johns will reveal XS' "ultimate role", you know, the one the Time Trapper teased her about so long ago. I hope it's good...
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Shooter mentioned that he has plotted his first sixteen Legion issues, so he must be well apprised of DC's plans. How come no one seems to mention that Johns already depicted Clark as "Superboy" (in the ADV #312 flashback in "The Lightning Saga")? And does anyone remember that the Reboot Legion did allude to an unrecorded Temporal mission as occuring early in their history, both in the Secret Files and Origins Timeline and shortly before Brainy became Brainiac 5.1.
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Originally posted by Korbal: Shooter mentioned that he has plotted his first sixteen Legion issues, so he must be well apprised of DC's plans. How come no one seems to mention that Johns already depicted Clark as "Superboy" (in the ADV #312 flashback in "The Lightning Saga")? And does anyone remember that the Reboot Legion did allude to an unrecorded Temporal mission as occuring early in their history, both in the Secret Files and Origins Timeline and shortly before Brainy became Brainiac 5.1. Actually, I was going to point out the Secret Files refernces, but you beat me to it. The lawyers probably saw Superboy in flashback and told Johns to revise it.
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Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: While I'm also not expecting much from the conclusion, I'll still be getting this for a glimpse of the post Zero Hour Legion. Gates, Kinetix and XS had better be there!
I wonder if Johns will reveal XS' "ultimate role", you know, the one the Time Trapper teased her about so long ago. I hope it's good... Thom referred to it in JSA recently, too.
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Originally posted by Korbal: And does anyone remember that the Reboot Legion did allude to an unrecorded Temporal mission as occuring early in their history, both in the Secret Files and Origins Timeline and shortly before Brainy became Brainiac 5.1. That was them meeting Max Mercury somehow (remember Cos & Imra's reaction to meeting him during Team 20?)
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I have trepidations about this but I'll buy it for the Perez art. And because I'm a Legion fanboy of course. REALLY hope they don't try to do an amalgamated Legion. That would suck hard.
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George Perez is pretty much the only living equivalent to say, Jack Kirby, doing a Legion story. I can't think of a single other living comic book artist still working on a regular basis with that much wow factor (note "working on regular basis" since I'm sometimes unsure).
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Part 2 of the interview is up now. http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=152319 No big revelations except who are the main characters of "Three Worlds". Plus, next month's Action will include a coda to the Superman & Legion arc featuring Superman, Batman and (huh?) Lightning Lad in the 21st century.
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Originally posted by Reboot: I venture to suggest there's only one thing three-Legions-into-one would achieve.
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I really dislike how Johns sees the Legion founders emobodying Truth, Justice and the American Way. It's so shallow and superficial, as if they were only reflections of Superman's idealogy lacking unique personalities and motivations of their own.
Saturn Girl represents Truth? That's gotta be a joke. Worse, it makes her sound so boring.
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I think I may have to change my underpants now. I cannot wait!
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Originally posted by Tromium: I really dislike how Johns sees the Legion founders emobodying Truth, Justice and the American Way. It's so shallow and superficial, as if they were only reflections of Superman's idealogy lacking unique personalities and motivations of their own.
Saturn Girl represents Truth? That's gotta be a joke. Worse, it makes her sound so boring. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Personally I like my heroes to be heroic and if the writer sees them to be the embodiment of various heroic ideals then it's far easier for him or her to write them in a heroic light. That doesn't necessarily mean that the characters lack personalities and motivations. But it does help to frame (in the writer's mind) how that character's reactions to external stimili will play out. And let us not forget that Johns' take on Superman is that Imra, Rokk, and Garth were major influences on him as he matured, so it's possible to interpret that statement as the founders of the LSH were instrumental in Superman forming his idealogy.
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Wildfire is one of John's favorites and will play a major part, as he's done in the first two John's Legion stories! Yay! That more than anything makes me so excited. To see Wildfire, and basically the preboot Wildfire (don't get all technical on me now guys, I'm too bored with that arguement ), is just awesome. A Geoff John's Legion comic with this preboot-Actionized Legion would be my dream comic [that has an actual chance of happening] of 2008.
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Originally posted by Tromium: No big revelations except who are the main characters of "Three Worlds". It does say Action #864 will address what other Legionnaires are running around the the 21st century. Other than Lightning Lad's visit, who could that refer to exactly, now that Val and Lu are dead? The only Legion character I know to still be in 21C is Inferno.
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Originally posted by Portfolio Boy: It does say Action #864 will address what other Legionnaires are running around the the 21st century. Other than Lightning Lad's visit, who could that refer to exactly, now that Val and Lu are dead?
The only Legion character I know to still be in 21C is Inferno. Well, there's that drooling lunatic the JSA calls Starman. I wouldn't come as a big surprise if Johnsboot Jeckie went back to the 21st century to find Val. Ditto the two other Triplicate Girls, for their lost sister.
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: A Geoff John's Legion comic with this preboot-Actionized Legion would be my dream comic [that has an actual chance of happening] of 2008. Yup! And yay for Wildfire as well!
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[/qb] Originally posted by Tromium: Well, there's that drooling lunatic the JSA calls Starman. [/QB] Oh, yeah, forgot about him. Probably, I shor fused on Star man. Of course, Levitz explained long ago how someone can be a man in the 21st century, and still a boy in the 31st. [/qb] I wouldn't come as a big surprise if Johnsboot Jeckie went back to the 21st century to find Val. Ditto the two other Triplicate Girls, for their lost sister. [/QB] Well, I still think the thing with Lu was an editorial mistake on Carlin's part. At the point Lu came from, Una should have been the last surviving third.
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does this mean someone's gonna make a new micro legion ulitmate team up ...LOVE THE MICROS
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I am sorely disappointed in Geoff Johns' favourite legionnaires... The three founders, B-5, Wildfire and Dawnstar were the most over-exposed legionnaires in their time. I'm happier about Polar Boy and Sun Boy who weren't as center stage (except maybe Dirk in the Adventure years).
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