Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! what SHOULD the new Legion be about?

I'd love, love, love it if the outcome of the 3 Legions and the Time Trapper is that the TMK future ends up being the "one, true, merged Legion" and the Legionnaires end up as the pre-ZH adults, going forward from that point in time.

That's one of the few things that might get me interested in buying the book. Ergo, it's not what DC will do.

Something else else tells me Johns hates TMK Legion, since he pratically hated everything Giffen did to the Justice League. Johns likes canonical books, and lots of death. In his Infinite Crap, he managed to transform DCU into a messy glob just to make it back to the past somehow. Funny though: Didio said IC was responsible for messing up with DCU too!

What should the new legion be about?
****things i would like to see****


i want the legion to be fun again

i want the legion to pull pranks on one another. i want the legionnaires to laugh at jokes they tell one another. play games in the wreck room.(other then back ground cameo's)

i would like to see friendships

if some one is a friend to another some one, i would like to see that why not just say person a and b are friends even though they haven't say two words to one another in the run.

i would like to see more of the legionnaires cultures

if your from a strange world where the only safe food to eat is neon blue, and can't wear clothing on days of the week that have the letter "O" in it i would be nice to see not just brought up in passing

i want legionnaires to be have a sense of loyalty that you can feel

if legionnaire A is room 1 and Legionnaire B is room 2 you know the villain is going to get pissed when the thing they can get out of both legionnaires is "long live the legion."

i want brainiac 5 to stop being pissy all the time

i like Pissy Brainy, but miss the days when he was nice. in the old days you knew when pissy brainy showed up, it was time knock him out and call the nice men in the white jackets to take him to a "spa" for a few days.

i want Element lad to be a bit snarly every so often

the best moments with him is when he snaps at the group in general to stop and make then think about stuff

i want the legion to stay in it's bubble

i Know that having superman and super girl on the team is very important. but if that means the only way we get to see a legion if it some how connected to the every day life superman. then he should not be in the book the legion is takes place a 1000 years from now. just because some one sneezed now shouldn't cause a hurricane 1000 years latter.

B]the legion needs to have rules again[/B]

having rules made the legion more organized. having to sit around a table and having that line to draw in the sand. to have a clear and defined code. is what helped make the legion what is/was

no backstabbing/doing things that define villains

if the leader of the group say we do this, then they do that, no just doing it your way. backstabbing is a big no. no more of that kids are supposed to want to grow to be like legionnaires. the should be role models

but most of all the legion should be about a group of teens that take Role Playing a Bit too seriously, who gather other such dorks and save the universe from time to time

All great ideas. Are you listening Dan Didio?

It's time to take the Legion back to what made it special, fan participation, fun, friendships, and shorter stories.

Writers used to be able to tell a story in less than 16 issues. The best stories didn't always involve saving the universe every issue. It's the little things in people's lives that often make stories that relate to people. It might be a good idea to go back and read some of Paul Levitz's issues. He got it right a lot of the time.

Paul Levitz was a great writer, but he wasn't as big on short stories as you seem to think.

I totally agree with Kidflash2fan.

Plus: I'd like to see the Legion as a group of Teens, not adults or any in the mix (except RJ Brande & Marla Latham). If you want adults heroes mentoring kids, you have the JSA. If you want a long story arc, you have the JLA (and JSA). Use the original formula that worked for the Legion for 30 years - teen relationships in a super-clubhouse atmosphere, helping out the science police for the good of the universe.

I'd like to see a bright, shiny 31st century with Concentrators, Fusion Powerspheres, and Brain Globe creatures floating around. Legionnaires helping out space colonists, sentients in natural disasters, investigating scientific wonders/
mysteries in the galaxy, and bringing down the occasional super tech bad guys. And visiting talking space apes and plant people and protoplasmic blobules and...

I'd say, however, that if you want a group of teens, you should buy Teen Titans instead. So no teens, except in Year One kind of stories. I don't want Legion of Super-Replay. I want to move forward, not backward.

Except for a visit to Rambat. I'd want to see more on that planet.

I actually wouldn't mind teens if it were a "Next Generation" scenario, but I think I'm probably in the minority on that.

But I'm all for retro-futurism in the Legion.

I wouldn't mind a teen book if the WHOLE concept were teen geared.
I just really don't want teens slaughtered by mega powerful villians and parents on a planetary scale destroying their children.
I'd want kid reactions and kid relationships, too, not adult issues stuffed into kid bodies.

One of the things I enjoyed about the Archies was that for the most part, they looked and acted their ages.

'The Avatar', now on the Boom network, I think, is a great example of kids being kids while trying to save the world.
There are adult mentors but the kids are the stars.

The Legion were THE original teen heroes book, ahead of the super side-kick Titans. With the huge cast, there should be plenty of new stories here to move forward with. I agree with not wanting a retelling or re-writing of previous stories. I also don't want to see constant Adult Legion stories either.

Adult Legion = JLA = Superman & Friends = not the true spirit of the original, youthful Legion.

I could say that Legion WAS also the original ADULT heroes book, as in "they had a life". JLA was about emasculated adult heroes, none had a life on it. In fact, JSA is currently a rip-off of the family concept Levitz brought way back to the Legion.
And I'd rather read the adult Legion stories from the team that has forever existed than new stories about a bunch of characters who will be forever "compared" to the 60s team.

The Legion HAS to be youthful. The enthusiasm, passion, and naivete of youth are ESSENTIAL components of the Legion. I'm agnostic on their actual ages, and do rather like the idea of stories told at multiple points of time. This seems like one of those time-honored comics traditions that all the current "pros" completely ignore, with the exception of nobodies like Alan Moore and Grant Morrison.

I don't care if the original team members are brought back to being teens, or advanced to being advisors and parental figures for a new generation of their children (and with former Subs, Academy recuits, etc. rounding out the current team as grown-up leader-types).

What matters to me is that there is a sense of hopeful idealism and wide-eyed wonder to be had. Grim, gritty, planet-exploding, alien xenophobia and plague-devastation has it's place, in someone elses darn book.

Here there be space dragons.

and three eyed atomic powered beings that hate all law enforcers, don't forget them!

of the three proposals I'm ferreting out of the discussion

1) young teens with teenly ambitions not getting slaughtered

2) a moving on adult Legion

3) a moved on Legion now as mentors to the next gen

I'm most favored to both 1 and 2 and not feeling 3 so much.

Soap opera plots, aliens and most importantly of all - Gorillas!

You know it'd be a best seller!

I want a real LEGION....50 members or more....

All the originals, plus subs, honorary memebers.

Kinetix, XS, Gates, Andromeda, Shikari.
Computo, Dragonmage, Catspaw.
Veilmist, Spider Girl, Neon, Reflecto, Impulse.

LEGION of infinity super-heroes.

I think ADVENTURE should feature unrigidly rotating stories of all three (four? five?) versions of the LSH set in their respective continuties.

An ever-shifting squad comprised of members from all realities would also appear. Maybe as the headliners?

Johns Legion, reboot Legion, threeboot Legion, 5YL Legion are all legions of super-heroes. Each legionnaire, however, is also considered a member of the Legion of Legions.

For the first 36 years of Legion history (up until Zero Hour) the Legion aged from young teens to older teens, to twenties and then early thirties.

This dynamic kept the stories vibrant and gave the legion something that no other book had. If the Legion is ever to gain a mass audience again then being able to watch the team develop and change in a 'natural' way has to be a major selling point.

The Legion ceased to be teens during the late Cockrum, early Levitz period in the seventies. Later reboots dragging the Legion back to being teenagers failed. Let's see the Legion age, mature and evolve like no other team in the market.

Hey Silver,
I don't think the rejuvination attempts failed as much as the concepts. In the case of Reboot Legion the premise was fresh at the beginning but lagged as the years went on (with the exception of the Legion Lost mini series which I felt was truly a stand-out gem IMO).
The Legion needs some smart writing and engaging plot lines (plus a sharp artist that suits the time period its set in) to keep the readers' interest over an extended period of time (meaning longer than 3/4 years). That would serve them better regardless of what age they're "re-introduced" to the readers and potential new fans in 2009.
If that happens I wouldn't care what the title of their upcoming comic was called ... Adventure, LOSH, Superboy & TLOSH, whatever.

Future King, I couldn't agree more with this. Without a good creative team any concept is screwed from the start.

Thanks for the pic, Rhino.

Rokk needs a shave and a haircut. Cleancut Cosmic Boy would never go for the grunge look, or whatever this kid's got going on. Wish they would've given him a lavender shirt instead of purple. Knew they wouldn't go with pink.

Imra looks hot, but where's her turtleneck? And why do super heroes always have to wear leather a la X-men, Batman, Daredevil, etc. ?

it makes sense that a book about the future, looking forward, exploring... would have youths as the protagonists. i'm not so into the middle-aged legion.
i think that the original team will be "time-trapped" back to when Superboy was "Byrned" out of continuity. even that's a bit old for my tastes as L.L. and S.G. already had kids and K.K. was dead. they had their horrible Magic Wars costumes. ideally i'd love to go to pre-Levitz times.

I'd be thrilled with an Earth 1 / Earth 2 situation, where the Earth 2 Legion is the older team, just as the Earth 2 Batman was married to Catwoman and had a crime-fighting daughter.

Earth 1 Legion stories can be about pre-married-with-children Legionnaires in exciting adventures that we haven't seen yet.

Earth 2 Legion stories can have the standard Legionnaires as planetary champions and quasi-retired 'elder statesmen' of the super-hero community, with some still active Legionnaires, and others pursuing other agendas, while some of their kids are up-and-coming into the ranks of the Academy, Subs and / or core team.

That way, we can go to Earth 1 to read about Garth and Imra and Rokk, and to Earth 2 to read about the new team with Graym and whomever.

Ooh, a 'Runaways' or 'Young Justice' style book based entirely on Legion kids could be awesome...

For that matter, a Young Avengers / Teen Titans style book based on former 'sidekicks' (Subs, Rejects and / or Academy recruits) going on to become full-fledged heroes would also be neat. I'd love to see Nightwind, Lamprey and Crystal Kid move into the big leagues.