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#85382 07/18/05 01:10 PM
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I was among those most willing to give the Threeboot a chance... I loved the first 3 issues, and I still like the book, but...

It doesn't thrill me. I'm not as excited to read each issue, as I was under DnA... even the late DnA issues still filled me with anticipation, even though I recognized the stories weren't as good anymore.

I can't attrribute my new ennui with the Gail Simone bore-parter, either... WaK started with a reasonably strong momentum, but lost it. Even tho #5 nicely recovered #4's fumble and the intro of Lemnos revived the story, I just can't get into it as much.

I look forward to reading back issues more than I do the current stories, and that's a damn shame.


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#85383 07/18/05 01:17 PM
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Jinkies!


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#85384 07/18/05 01:20 PM
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You're dead to me, man.


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"Anytime an awesome book like S6 is cancelled, I hope EVERY Titan is murdered." --Me
#85385 07/18/05 01:40 PM
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"Reboot was right"...

No good can come of this wink


Some people are like slinkys: not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you knock them down a flight of stairs
#85386 07/18/05 02:33 PM
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I think this is among the list of inappropriate topic titles. wink

Seriously, Sean, if you're still at least reading the book then Reboot isn't right. I think after we get through the latest fill in artists and they get the coloring under control laugh , you may just eat these words.

#85387 07/18/05 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
you may just eat these words.
...with tomatoes, on wheels! laugh

(Do we have a tomato with wheels smiley?)


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#85388 07/18/05 02:43 PM
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Well, now Kent won't be the first against the wall when the revolution comes wink
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Originally posted by Spellbinder:
"Reboot was right"...

No good can come of this wink
You know, I was expecting Pov to come out with that line.

Think about it - Pov's words are coming off your fingertips. Can you really call that a good thing? tongue

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I think this is among the list of inappropriate topic titles. wink
My only problem with it is the tense smile

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Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
[b] you may just eat these words.
...with tomatoes, on wheels! laugh

(Do we have a tomato with wheels smiley?)[/b]
I'm sure Gary will be scrambling to fit wheels to a virtual tomato forthwith XS


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#85389 07/18/05 02:47 PM
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You know, I was expecting Pov to come out with that line.

Think about it - Pov's words are coming off your fingertips. Can you really call that a good thing? tongue
Pov has been a bad influence on me wink


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#85390 07/18/05 02:52 PM
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Kent Shakespeare! You're usually the one person I can always agree with. However, I now feel that I've entered an alternate reality. Most unsettling.

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#85392 07/18/05 04:17 PM
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Sorry but this is one thing on which 'boot is NOT right. The only thing, besides the awful coloring, that I see wrong with WaK is that DC is obviously not going to be collecting the new LSH into a TPB anymore than they did past incarnations. Unless they plan for a larger than normal trade.

I'm fully enjoying this new version and have just learned to let go of all that has come before. DnA would have killed the title off before the team reached their 50th anniversary. Now the LSH has fresh blood and a chance at being one of DCs biggest sellers as the team enters the second half of their century.

#85393 07/18/05 04:35 PM
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I'll admit the series has drug a little bit more than it should, but I think anyone who doesn't dig it more than the previous incarnation has forgotten just how bad the previous incarnation was.

Just a reminder:

Terrorform Zoe!
Attack of the 50' Vi!
Vi's Green Streak!
Cub!
Timber Wolverine!
Alien Horde of the Week!

And that's just for starters.

#85394 07/18/05 04:38 PM
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Blame the slow story on the impending Crisis. The Legion's time is already affected by whatever is going to happen so they have to tread slow until it can be revealed.

#85395 07/18/05 04:40 PM
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And I'd certainly rather have a slow story than a series of sudden "plot twists" that seem to happen for no apparent reason. Need I mention... Cos's relationship with Jazmin?

#85396 07/18/05 04:46 PM
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Crap! I can't stop!

Remember:

Hypertaxis!
Jarth!

#85397 07/18/05 04:51 PM
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Not Jarth! I had just gotten over that!

#85398 07/18/05 05:13 PM
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As a flip flopper I must comment. I see brightness but also lots of room for improvment. BUT the slowness is both a good and bad thing. Because while we (I) judge this there is much to be revealed.

It has already won me over I admit. And thankfully Kitson giving us clues every once in a while keeps me going. For instance a yet unseen member (except for boots) in #1 will be shown in #10. And it's not Violet it seems.

The question is asked why do I have to wait ten issues to see what is probably Wildfire and the first non Adventure era Legionnaire. Which also happens to be one of the most popular members ever on the Legion. I mean I understand waiting to introduce Blok but Wildfire (if it is Wildfire?).


With this slow pace they are asking new and old fans for patience. Patience is not one of the best things to ask a new audience. At the same time the creators are taking it slow IMO for a few reasons and I think tradepaperback friendly is just a small factor. I think the bigger factor they are taking it slow is because of caution. Waid is not going to launch the new Legion guns blazing and taking names. He's going to put the block together very carefully and more thought out possibly than last time he did it after Zero Hour.

I remember Giffen's v4 started really slow and I hated for about 8 issues then loved it after I read all 8 in a row.

Damned if you do damned if you don't I am sure the creators are thinking. The character interaction has been great but so far the plot has been long and complex and needs more spark.

Eat it Grandpa? These kids are as tame as a 1950s Boy Scout troop. Each time they try to show how revolutionary they are it seems forced. Brin Londo was a welcome change. But at this point as much as I hated the v4 Dev-Em with we need some PUNK in this title. Oh wait I forgot acting like a 1950s boy scout troop IS punk in this future...how boring for the kids today seeing the radical future be something out of their parents Wonder Years. smile

Terror Firma and the Science Police are cool though! heh.

Patience Jorge...patience I know. Waid is doing great interaction between the characters. The interaction feels like I am reading THE Legion not a reboot knockoff. The art has been amazing by Kitson. I will be patient cause I know little by little I will love this run just for the quality of work if anything.

But will the 13 year old new Legion reader be patient?

#85399 07/18/05 05:32 PM
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I still say jinkies.


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#85400 07/18/05 05:56 PM
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I'm with Kid Prime.

#85401 07/18/05 06:25 PM
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Damned if you do damned if you don't I am sure the creators are thinking. The character interaction has been great but so far the plot has been long and complex and needs more spark.


But will the 13 year old new Legion reader be patient?
well, I suppose Waid could have copied from the New Avengers and have the LSH band together to chase down escapees from the SP's maximum security prison. smile

#85402 07/18/05 06:47 PM
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Funny, when I first heard of the impending 'boot, I was anticipating Waid's scripting and dreading Kitson's art. Now that it's here, it's the art that's wowing me, not the stories.
Oh, and I agree, these kids are FAR from rebellious. They're too NICE!

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I still prefer reboot. This series is a good read, but it's not Legion

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Let me check...

I still prefer Colossal Boy alive.

I still prefer Jan not being a dead lunatic.

I still prefer a Timberwolf that doesn't look like a rat.

Yep, I still prefer the threeboot. I too kept anticipating the later DnA issues, but was always disappointed with what came out. Now I am quite happy to see Waid and Kitson building a classic month by month.

#85405 07/18/05 07:49 PM
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I still prefer reboot. This series is a good read, but it's not Legion
Well, if we're going to be totally honest, the reboot isn't the Legion either. That honor belongs soley to the PREboot.

But I'm digging the WaK era thus far.


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#85406 07/18/05 08:51 PM
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Not Jarth! I had just gotten over that!
common ground, fancy that.


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