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Does this character have some sort of shape-changing ability?

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Has this character appeared in more than one story?


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Is this character a Bizarro?

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Is your character some kind of mammal?

No.

Does this character have some sort of shape-changing ability?

Yes (but probably not in the way you're thinking).

Has this character appeared in more than one story?

Yes.

Is this character a Bizarro?

No.

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Is your character a plant-based life form?

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Is your character a plant-based life form?

No.

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Is your character an animal of some sort?

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Is your character an animal of some sort?

No.

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Is your character some sort of mechanical construct?

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Is your character some sort of mechanical construct?

No.

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Did your character appear in stories set before 1950?

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Can your character breathe underwater?

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Did this character ever appear in Brave and the Bold?

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Did your character appear in stories set before 1950?

No.

Can your character breathe underwater?

I don't remember ever seeing it but I would say with confidence that he can, yes.

Did this character ever appear in Brave and the Bold?

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SUMMARY:

I'm thinking of a character who...

... is male.
... is not a super-hero, a villain or a supporting character.
... is not a mechanical construct (or any other sort of artificial life form), a plant-based life form, a Kryptonian (or any other sort of alien), a canine, a simian, a human, a mammal (or any other sort of animal); but
... is able to pass for human in appropriate clothing.
... wears a costume.
... can fly, breathe underwater, and shape-change (sort of); but
... has no connection to the supernatural.
... first appeared prior to 1970, and 1960, but not 1950; and
... has made more than one appearance since then.
... mostly appears in stories set in the 20th or 21st centuries; but
... does not usually appear in stories set before 1950.
... has never had his own book; but
... has appeared in The Brave and the Bold.
... has never been a member of the Legion of Super-Heroes (or any other team); and
... (as far as I know) has never met that Legion (of Super-Pets) stalwart Krypto (in continuity anyway; they've definitely shared a panel or two in at least one non-continuity story I can think of).
... does not live in Smallville.
... does not have an alliterative name.
... is not Detective Chimp or Bizarro.

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Is your character Batmite?


"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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And TK swoops in out of nowhere for the steal!

Bat-Mite it is!

I was amazed at how long this one took to get. I thought my last character (Pooch) would be tough to get, but you all worked it out in about 7 questions; while this one felt like it was going on forever.

I had fun with it though! And it just shows how one lucky question can really zero in on the answer - in Pooch's case, about the military; while with Bat-Mite here, I never really felt like any of the questions were particularly at risk of revealing him.

Over to you TK.

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P.S. The non-continuity story that Bat-Mite shares some panels with Krypto in is Superman/Batman: World's Funnest. In which Bat-Mite and Mr Mxyzptlk proceed to hilariously kill off pretty much every Superman and Batman character (including poor Krypto frown ). It's very funny though.

Here it is:

http://www.comics.org/issue/87748/cover/4/

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When is an entity not an entity? when it's from the fifth dimension.

So a combination of running out of classifications, B&B being a Bats team up book in places and thinking of odd characters like Det Chimp. Bizarro led to Mr M - which led me to Mite. Coming in late on helped a lot, as I'm usually half way down a blind alley if I'm reading each clue as they arrive smile

Waffling on has given me a chance to think...of a DCU character...


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I always assumed magic = supernatural, but did not consider that beings from alternate dimensions could be magical without being supernatural.

Good going both of you!

Is your character a super hero?

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Yeah, I'd thought about various magical imp characters earlier, but had dismissed them on the supernatural bit.

Anyway, is this new character normally featured in comics starring either Superman or Batman?

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Hmmm Despite the association with "magic", the Fifth Dimension and it's characters have always seemed more science fictiony to me than what I would normally characterize as "supernatural" - e.g. occult-like characters like Phantom Stranger/Dr Fate/Dr Thirteen etc., along with all the associated mythological creatures; ghosts, werewolves, vampires, etc. None of that screams Fifth Dimension to me.

But it's all moot because the Fifth Dimension characters don't actually use magic anyway. Per Wikipedia:

Bat-Mite possesses what appears to be near-infinite magical power, but in reality is highly advanced technology from the fifth dimension that cannot be understood by humans' limited three-dimensional views.

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Yeah, I actually considered that magic and the supernatural are not always the same thing.

And thanks for sharing that tidbit about Bat-Mite!

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Yeah, I get it, and even thought of the possibility that you weren't counting them as supernatural when I considered them, but didn't follow up on it.

I will point out, though, that Mxyzptlk at least was traditionally described as using "magic", hence the effectiveness of his powers on Superman. Also, in a quite literal sense their powers are supernatural, because they work by utilizing principles outside/above our natural order, but they certainly weren't who I had in mind when I asked the supernatural question (I was thinking the Phantom Stranger at that point!).

Anyway, no big deal.

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^ Re: the definition of supernatural. Some say Mxyztplk. Some say Mxyzptlk. wink

(http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk)

I did mean to wonder in my previous post how Mr Mxyzptlk's power was able to work on Superman if he wasn't using magic though?

I wonder who came up with that idea anyway? It seems needlessly confusing. "Magic" is a much more conceivable concept. But maybe that was the point, since the Fifth Dimension and its characters and motivations are meant to be beyond our normal understanding?

I liked how Grant Morrison used the concept in Batman R.I.P. When Batman asks Bat-Mite whether he's real or a figment of his imagination, Bat-Mite responds that the Fifth Dimension is imagination. That's a great line! And makes so much sense when you think about it.

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