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But that history is neither here nor there, now that everything old is new again.
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That history is gone, Tromium. Besides, the conspiracy was a personal issue rather than simply "us vs. them". They wanted revenge but didn't want to risk the very possible death of the entire team.
As for Rugarth, I'd have sided with Brainy, too. Rugarth has been the Infinite Man and he has reverted. There's no evidence to suggest that he couldn't revert again, that the Infinite Man isn't simply an insane, powerful Rugart, or that the Infinite Man/Rugarth died. The trial was a sham to get at Brainy. He's not particularly more at fault that any of the other conspirators so it didn't even make sense. Worse, it whole trial cost them a very important member. Was it worth it?
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The old stories may be irrelevant but the character personalities established decades ago will almost certainly remain relevant, as Waid stated in an interview some months ago, i.e., he was for the most part planning to following Levitz's depictions. In the Time Trapper Conspiracy story, Levitz reaffirmed Saturn Girl's capacity for secrecy and manipulation, if not outright moral ambiguity (the end justifies the means). No coincidence, as Weisinger and Siegel portrayed her with similar tendencies in 1963; so did DnA in 2000/2001. Chances are, Waid will too, to some degree. Even if he softens her up a bit, I expect that reimagined Imra will still be capable of siding with Brainy's darker plans if it serves her purposes. So she remains on my list of usual suspects until further notice, though innocent until proven guilty. Brainy, on the other hand, is guilty until proven innocent.
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Except that this Brainy is, the way I see it, a lot different than the preboot Brainiac 5. We don't have enough info on Saturn Girl to be certain how she works out in relation to him.
And isn't Jan's characterization alone enough to tell us that not everyone is the same?
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Brainy is still Brainy -- just more so.
E-Lad has changed, and not necessarily for the better, but he's still closer to the prototype than the moon-unit of the Stern/Peyer run.
The others vary from the template to one degree or another, but after only three issues most are recognizable personalities, even Colossal Boy. I don't see them as different characters, just variations on the same theme. If I thought they were different characters, I wouldn't be reading LoSH.
Of course, I don't *know* anything about the 3boot Saturn Girl or her political relationship to Brainy. But I've been acquainted with her previous selves for 40+ years, so I think I have more than enough information to speculate how she might think and behave in the future. Engaging in speculation, no matter how futile it might seem to some, is a lot more fun than twiddling our thumbs until the next issue.
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Couple of thoughts struck me abou issue 3 - If the legionnaires need to take off ther flight rings to be in civvies how did EL and TG fly to that island? Also, does Brainy realise that TG is on Cos's side (the Cos Crew?) and not his (the Brainy Bunch?) and thats why the flight ring doesn't have the capacity to triplicate? Also, if flight rings are DNA coded how could Brainy use Shady's and give his to the kid in #2?
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Hey! Those are excellent questions, especially about Brainy using Shady's ring! I didn't even notice it. I think it's rather farfetched that the Legion can afford 20 rings, but not 22. Come on, how much more could 2 more rings possibly cost? Is the new legal limit for Legionnaires going to be based on how many flight rings they can afford?
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Originally posted by Queen B: Also, if flight rings are DNA coded how could Brainy use Shady's and give his to the kid in #2?
Well, maybe any Legionaire can use them in a pinch. Or maybe *Brainy* can use any of them, as I assume he's the one who coded them. Originally posted by jimgallagher: I think it's rather farfetched that the Legion can afford 20 rings, but not 22. Come on, how much more could 2 more rings possibly cost?
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Originally posted by Queen B: Couple of thoughts struck me abou issue 3 - If the legionnaires need to take off ther flight rings to be in civvies how did EL and TG fly to that island? Also, does Brainy realise that TG is on Cos's side (the Cos Crew?) and not his (the Brainy Bunch?) and thats why the flight ring doesn't have the capacity to triplicate? Also, if flight rings are DNA coded how could Brainy use Shady's and give his to the kid in #2?
Questions, questions Let's say that you can still use the rings to fly if it's in your pocket. I mean, it doesn't have to be on your finger to make you fly, does it? And, if Brainy made the rings, he'd surely have incorporated his ability to control each one of them.
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Lu: "This crate runs on museum-quality fossil fuel? What's the operating cost?"
Jo: "About a thousand credits a foot."
Lu: "Wow."
Jo: "I'm worth it. Life is short. Take pleasure."
Does this exchange imply that Jo is independently wealthy?
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Originally posted by Queen B: Also, if flight rings are DNA coded how could Brainy use Shady's and give his to the kid in #2?
Questions, questions I figured there were two possibilities - Brainy can use any of them, as several people have suggested, or TG's is DNA coded as part of Brainy's effort to get it to split with her but the other Legionnaires just get generic rings. If they're all DNA coded, then there's the further question of which functions are DNA coded since the Public Service blocking function worked on the generic Naltorian.
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I think they all have to be DNA coded for the specific purpose of hiding them. Lyle, for example, falls of the DNA grid while wearing his ring, so I'm guessing it would have to know what DNA to block.
I think it's a good guess that Brainy could circumvent the DNA requirement as needed but that not just any Legionnaire could do so.
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