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Re: JSA/JLA vs. Legion
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Tough one, as they match up pretty well. Hawkman can fly but T-Wolf has a flight ring. Brin has the healing factor but Carter's Nth metal also helps with that, I've read.

I think in the end I'll give it to Brin. Both are strong but I think Brin is stronger, and if Brin can disarm Hawkman (which I think he can!) then there goes Carter's advantage.

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Dawnstar vs. Hawkgirl

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I'm giving this to Hawkgirl. Basically because Dawnstar is so terribly underwritten. She either flies really fast, has her tracking powers fail or mopes around with Dawnstar.

So, there's not a huge amount of great combat scenes for her. Unlike Hawkgirl who's as adept with Thanangarian technology as she is with medieval weaponry.

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Catspaw vs Catwoman


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Catspaw is fast and has claws, but her intelligence doesn't seem consistently up to human standard. Catwoman is extremely crafty and a good fighter.

If we're just talking about a fight though... Catspaw.

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Gear vs. Blue Beetle (Ted)

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I say Gear would mop the floor with him. Given time Ted could probably pull a Batman and come up with some doodad to disable him but he was very rarely written as that guy in the Justice League books.

Donna Troy vs Thunder!

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On one hand we have Donna's new Lasso of Persuasion. All she has to do is get it around her foes and she can force them to do her bidding IF her will is stronger.

Then we have Thunder's Captain Marvel powers, including the
"power of Zeus" which grants resistance to magic spells and attacks, plus the "wisdom of Solomon". While Donna's lasso is potent, I'd have to think that the Captain Marvel powers would give some sort of resistance to that. So, Thunder.

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Fire vs. Polar Boy

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In a blatant act of favouritism I choose Fire! Bea is one of my faves of that era <3

Maxwell Lord vs Universo....which man can infiltrate their way to the most power?

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Universo just seems more powerful. Look at the Universo Project. Yes, I know Max Lord's been able to wipe the memories of almost everyone on Earth too, but I think Universo's more capable.

Can we expand this outside the JLA/JSA too?

Saturn Girl vs. Emma Frost

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which Saturn Girl ...

Reboot Saturn Girl could do amazing things ... she'd hand Emma Frost her butt.

I still think Saturn Girl the original could out do Emma Frost ... Emma Frost has gotten stupider and weaker as time goes by.

Wonder Woman vs. Ultra Boy?

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Although that one DNA issue showed Jo getting the drop on Diana, I think Diana is much smarter and more experienced as a fighter. And face it, Jo hasn't always been the smartest at using his powers (though his vision powers for one would give Diana a run for her money). Still Diana.

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Maya vs. Nightwind

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hmmm I don't know maya but ... I think post make over Nightwind was pretty crafty as well as good with her powers.

I'd say Nightwind picks up Maya with the wind while dodging fire and water and throws Maya into a building.

Shrinking Violet versus the Atom Ray Palmer.

She's mean but he's smart.

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She beat him before (well, a hard light hologram of him :p) cause he got overconfident.

But, Ray has the whole "keep my mass the same while shrunken" thing going, while Violet is the much better hand-to-hand fighter for sure.

Hmmm... tough one. I'll give this to Atom since he can manipulate his mass/weight separately from his size.

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Infectious Lass and Chlorophyll Kid vs. Poison Ivy and Floronic Man

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Originally Posted by razsolo
In a blatant act of favouritism I choose Fire! Bea is one of my faves of that era <3


She's one of my utmost faves too smile

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Drura for the win, while sitting at a nice bistro table placed specially in the arena while she enjoys a nice, cool drink. No reason why she should trouble herself by standing up or anything. I just hope that Ral doesn't come down with any of the nasty plant rotting diseases that the others do.

Karate Kid I vs Batman


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KARATE KID KARATE KID!

OMG ... I think DC says Batman can beat Karate Kid ... but Batman never flipped Superman on his butt!


Karate Kid vs. Black Canary

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Justice League Unlimited Black Canary was pre t t y rockass.

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Originally Posted by Power Boy
KARATE KID KARATE KID!

OMG ... I think DC says Batman can beat Karate Kid ... but Batman never flipped Superman on his butt!


Karate Kid vs. Black Canary


besides Karate Kid probably knows everything Batman knows but + 1000 years of extra stuff ... imagine math in 1000 years .. its like the same thing but with butt kicking.

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Yeah, imagine if Karate Kid busted out some martial arts moves based on a discipline that was created specifically to beat Batman!

KK vs. Canary - the sonic scream is pretty tough, but if KK can dodge heat vision from a possessed Mon-El... Karate Kid for this one.

Now...

Karate Kid (Val) vs. Steel (John Henry Irons)

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Since Steel is clearly wearing armour, Val dodges the hammer before determining the armour's weakest point, rendering Irons useless.

Next Bout:
Black Adam vs Thunder


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rickshaw1 #805511 04/20/14 09:26 PM
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Black Adam. He's my fave Marvel ... except for Mary and ... Jr ... maybe.

Thunder has no chance. In fact he would probably snap her neck and dare I say ... steal her Thunder.

Black Adam versus Laurel Gand

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Black Adam is magic-based, which has always been a weakness for the Daxamites and the Kryptonians. Sadly, I'll have to give this one to Black Adam.

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General Glory vs. Monstress!

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rickshaw1 #805520 04/20/14 10:25 PM
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aww man ... I thought Laurel would be a close one ... but I forgot they made a point of saying she was susceptable to magic.

I didn't pick mon ... because i figure he could just throw a white dwarf star at Black Adam.


Totes Monstress. One big punch.



Zatanna versus Dream Girl.

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I think Laurel would be less clouded by emotion and could beat him, but on average I think Black Adam would win. Sadly. But I could think of ways for Laurel to win...

Well, even if Nura predicts everything Zatanna does, I don't think she can stop it frown So, Zatanna.


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Kyle Rayner vs. Celeste Rockfish

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Kyle Rayner. frown

I love Celeste but she can't really make shapes ... and Kyle can do all kinds of things and ... even probably turn himself intangible ... Celeste's big advantage.

No powers I think Celeste would pistol whip him though.

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Firestorm versus Element Lad.

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Oh, if it were hand-to-hand Celeste would definitely win!

I love both equally, but Firestorm's nuclear blasts and intangibility (he can still do that right?) can easily overpower Element Lad.

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Element Lad vs. Major Disaster

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Element Lad ... I imagine the Element Lad towards the end of the Baxter Legion making short work of any Major Disaster.


Firestorm versus Emerald Violet.

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