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Re: JSA/JLA vs. Legion
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I'd give it to Emerald Violet...Firestorm can't affect organics, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to affect the eye itself, and she'd be a lot more ruthless than him.
How about painfully shy Vi vs painfully nice Ice? Which meekest shall inherit the earth? (Or win the fight at least?)
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Vi for the win. She's gone through all that Legion training and could get the job done even if she was shy.
Next Bout: Dream Girl vs Batman
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Common sense tells me that Batman is still the superior martial artist and that Nura's visions don't let her actually see a play-by-play of the future (sometimes she only sees glimpses)... But I'll go for favoritism and say that Dream Girl would win Next: Umbra vs. Batman
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Re: JSA/JLA vs. Legion
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I knew you'd say that, as Nura told me There was the argument that just because you see something coming, doesn't mean you can avoid it. But Nura apparently spent lots of time with Karate Kid. Since we've established that Karate Kid would slap Bats around... I'm going with Umbra (assuming that it's pretty much the same as Shadow Lass). Batman is the better fighter, but he won't be able to see. Since Tasmia is an expert fighting in such conditions and can see, I think she'd win. Next Bout: Ferro Lad vs Citizen Steel
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Re: JSA/JLA vs. Legion
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Umbra's shadows are as potent as Shadow Lass', but with the added bonus of acting like energy/concussive blasts. She could snap someone's neck with those (and has threatened to). So, good choice A guy made of iron vs. tough guy who can't feel anything. The JSA books featuring Citizen Steel SEEM to have him as an incredibly strong guy... Going with Citizen Steel on this one as I think he's more invulnerable. Next: Ferro vs. Iron of the Metal Men
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Ferro can transform into a near-indestructible isotope of iron, but Iron is the real thing. The metal man also possesses pretty high-level shape-shifting ability, so it's analogous to an ordinary human going up against a buffed-up Plastic Man. Iron is also one of the more intelligent members of the Metal Men, so I don't think Ferro can win on strategy.
Iron of the Metal Men for the win.
How about some Villain-on-Villain action?
Next up:
Omen -vs.- Mr. Nebula
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Why would they fight? She needs a new costume and he's just the guy to do.
Actually I think he sufficiently annoys or confounds her until she gives up ...
Lightning Lord versus Killer Frost
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Was that meant to be Omen from the Prophet/Omen story?
On Lightning Lord vs. Killer Frost -
We know electricity's extremely fast, so I'm betting Mekt can zap Killer Frost before she freezes him. Even if she starts freezing the air around her, I think the ice she creates would still be conductive (if I understand my science right!)
Lightning Lord wins.
Emerald Empress vs. Sinestro
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ah such a good one ...
Sinestro is pretty clever but Emerald Empress has no yellow weakness and a bottomless pit of power and the desire to use it to crush others.
I mean Sinestro is pretty cruel but ... the Empress makes herself giant size and squashes him like a bug.
Mordru versus Nekron!
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Empress for the win. She would have had Hal Jordan's head on a stick years ago. The more writers try to make Sinestro sympathetic, the more the gap between them.
Next Bout: Ferro vs Steel (Hank Heywood)
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Ferro ... anyone who clocks super boy and jumps into a sun eater has not only skin of iron but balls of steel.
Mordru versus Nekron!
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Eeeew, poor Steel. I know we don't have the character hold back here, but castrating one of them?
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As opposed to making them puke all over themselves, or freezing them solid and shattering them, or burning them to death, or burying them in rock, or...
I don't really even know what Nekron does, but DC SAYS Nekron is super powerful so I guess it's Nekron.
Next:
Tharok vs. Cyborg (Vic Stone)
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Tharok for the win.
Tharok is a super intelligence down the pecking order from Brainy, but a lot higher than normal folks, and that includes Victor Stone. Victor's scientific abilities always seemed a little tacked on for me too, recalling how much he resented his father's skills in that area.
Next bout:- Tomorrow Woman vs Kinetix
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Hunh. I had always considered Omen to be a male anthropomorphic personification of whatever, despite the flowers. But still, it is kind of creepily adorable to imagine a bunch of faceless little omenebulae running around.
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Power Boy was probably thinking of the female Teen Titan Lilith, who called herself Omen, rather than the villain the Legion fought.
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Tomorrow Woman's telekinesis mighter than Kinetix's. But, because she is an android, Zoe can just rip her apart with her powers. No, no, I'm not biased at all.
If it's terrorform Zoe than Kinetix definitely wins.
Next:
The Fatal Five (Validus, Tharok, Emerald Empress, Mano, Persuader)
Vs.
The Crime Syndicate (Power Ring, Ultra Man, Superwoman, Johnny Quick, Owlman)
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oh.
The original Earth-3 Owlman had mind-control powers, powerful enough to break Batman's will.
The magic of Volthoom overwhelms the Emerald Eye. Johnny Quick's superior speed best Mano. Multi-powered Ultraman, with Kryptonite-enhanced invulnerability and healing withstands the Atomic Axe and overpowers the Persuader. Owlman wrests mental control of Validus from Tharok. And its all over but Superwoman and her shape-shifting lasso pounding everyone for no reason at all.
Other versions of the Crime Syndicate would probably also beat the Fatal Five, but not without casualties. In most scenarios I can imagine, Tharok ends up in at least two pieces.
I'm going to say the fiendishly depraved Crime Syndicate.
Next:
Let's find a small, uninhabited galaxy and answer this question once and for all:
Silver-age Adult Legion Mon-El -vs.- Silver-Age Superman
(no kryptonite allowed)
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Re: JSA/JLA vs. Legion
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I'm sure others would like to chime in as well! I'll just refer to the old Adventure Era comics which always went, "and Mon-El is our MIGHTIEST member!" And there we go, Mon-El is mightier... ... of course, Superman could win just by grabbing a Phantom Zone projector and driving Mon-El insane with fear. So there's that... ... unless Mon-El thinks of it first and destroys all the zone projectors, or uses one on Supes first... ... and Silver Age Mon-El was able to experience and see a lot of things while in the Zone... so... I'm giving it to Mon-El (but a case sure could be made for Superman too!) Next: Sensor Girl vs. King Chimera
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Jeckie for the win. She has that personality through sheer breeding darling, not just as an act. She has powers under control at a whole different level than the rather unrefined, still training King. Chimera as Jeckie's corgi perhaps. Aside: Although Mon-El was the mightiest Legion member, that was with Superboy. With the experience of so many adventures and challenges under his belt, I'd have thought that a pre crisis Superman would win out. Mon El might have watched a lot of adventures, but only form the Phantom Zone. Next Bout: White Witch vs Anna Fortune
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White Witch. Anna has bungled spells from time to time, unlike the more capable Mysa.
Next:
Flare vs. Starfire
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Ah, I wasn't sure if Anna would have been able to shoot Mysa with something reliably or not.
Starfire for me. Flare ended up either captured by or meekly working for the Dominators. Starfire would be able to get in close and easily beat Flare with her vastly superior hand to hand skills.
Next Bout: Karate Kid vs Judomaster (newer one)
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Judomaster has this weird power that lets her evade all attacks specifically aimed at her, but not ones that "have no aim". Okaaaay.
I think Karate Kid and his wide range of martial arts experience should still let him beat her. I'm sure he's encountered one that allows him to randomly explode portions of the ground or something.
Next:
Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi) vs. Chemical King
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Oh Kimiyo all the way ... She was always a badass until that weird story line where Dr Light came back as a psychopath and handed her her butt.
Dr. Light versus Lightning Lass
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Well, Kimiyo can turn to light so she can easily evade Ayla's lightning while hitting her back hard.
Next:
Crimson Fox (either one) vs. Catspaw
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