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Golden Age Superman Vs Ultra Boy
One power at a time versus all powers at the same time? Superman, of course. Next: XS vs. Jesse Quick
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One power at a time versus all powers at the same time? Superman, of course. Oh, I beg to differ. This is the Golden Age Superman vs. the Silver Age Ultra Boy. Jo’s power levels are far, far beyond Kal-L’s. Besides, based on Flash Vision alone (which is powerful enough to ignite Silver-Age Kryptonians!) Jo will have to be very, very careful not to immolate his opponent. Still waiting on:
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Hmm, I have to admit I assumed that Golden Age Superman had the same power levels as Silver Age Superman. I always assumed that Earth-2 Superman = Golden Age Supes, so attributed the same power set. Now that I have done some research - http://www.fanzing.com/mag/fanzing43/feature2.shtml says that Golden-Age Superman
A) 1938-42: During these years Superman had a limited number of powers. Most important of all, he couldn't fly, only leap one eighth of a mile. He did not have all his super-senses (i.e. the vision and hearing powers). His invulnerability was at a very low level. Bullets could bounce off his skin, but a bomb or a missile could stun, hurt, or even kill him. Also, he was faster than an express train.
B) 1942-45: In these years Superman could fly and gained his x-ray, telescopic and heat vision powers. He also had a "super-acute hearing." His invulnerability, though, was at its previous level (bombs and missile could hurt him).
C) 1946-1955: In October 1946, Superman withstood the blast of two atomic bombs and could fly into the heart of the sun (that includes space & interplanetary travel) or earth's molten core. At this point he could fly at speeds faster than light itself and travel through time."
If A or B is the reference, then Silver Age Jo. If C is the reference, then Golden Age Supes Intermission over, on to the open Q:
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That's a rough one. Both are great speedsters, tapping into the Speed Force for various effects. Jenny seems faster, but Jesse add super-strength to the mix.
I'm going to give it to Jesse, not for the super-strength, but for the constant training with people like her father, Wally West, etc. She's got way more experience with the Speed Force, and with Speed Force users, than Jenny.
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It's a win for Cham. As well trained, experienced and capable as Mari is, the strength of an elephant doesn't really matter if Cham's just turned into an Elephant Squisher from Antares VI.
Aside 1: The Spectre being such a focused entity makes him more easily led by the nose. He's an unhinged fanatic.
Aside 2: It was A I was thinking of for the Supes Vs Jo one. No more than B.
Red Tornado (JLA) Vs Harmonia
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Red Tornado (JLA) Vs Harmonia Gosh, if it was Ma Hunkel vs. Harmonia, I totally would have given it to Ma Hunkel, after she bonked her with her saucepan helmet!
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I did toy with it
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Aside 1 - I dunno, the Spectre has always seemed to be one of those "I can do anything with my ill defined powers" types. Still don't think illusions would fool it for long especially if it knew its opponent's powers were illusion-based. Not changing my "vote".
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Reddy vs Harmonia - reddy's robot body withstands any attack from Harmonia, and her air of mystery fails to have an effect.
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I already picked Ralph on that one so I'll let someone else have it this time.
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Nope. It's still Ralph. Even Olsen's attempts to escape by transforming into a gorilla in drag and a giant turtle don't fool our pliable sleuth. Aside 1: Surely Harmonia pouring tea into Reddy's woiks? Aside 2: Once given the command of God, the Spectre vanish in a puff of Almighty smugness. The illusion only needs a moment as it's not as though he's going to argue the point. Next bout: Shadow Lass vs Doctor Midnite
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Sports Desk Results Update:-
JSA Atomic powered Atom vs. Gim Allon, Collasal Boy! – Gim Dr. Mid-nite Vs. Bouncing Boy. – Bouncing Boy Doctor Fate Vs Mysa – Mystical interference Timber Wolf vs. Vixen – Vixen Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi) vs. Wildfire – Wildfire Star Girl v Star Boy- Star Boy Atom (Ray Palmer) vs. Shrinking Violet – Atom The Atom (Al Pratt) v Atmos – Atmos Cannus vs. Gnort – Bout cancelled. Laurel Gand vs. Power Girl – Power Girl Invisible Kid vs. Gypsy – Gypsy Earth-Man vs. Wildcat (Ted Grant) – Wildcat Johnny Thunderbolt vs. Dragonmage! – Johnny Thunderbolt Cyclone (JSA) vs. Nightwind – Nightwind Duo Damsel -vs.- Crimson Fox (Vivian and Constance D'Aramis) – Duo Damsel Brainiac 5 vs Mr Terrific – Brainiac 5 Fire and Ice vs. Sun Boy and Polar Boy – Sun Boy & Polar Boy Vibe vs Cosmic Boy – Cosmic Boy Hawkgirl vs. Shikari - Shikari Jade (Jennifer-Lynn Hayden) vs. Neon (Celeste Rockfish McCauley) – Neon Element Lad vs. Firestorm – Firestorm The Spectre vs Sensor Girl – The Spectre Kinetix vs. Faith (JLA) – Kinetix Elongated Man v Elastic Lad – Elongated Man twice Katar Hol Hawkman vs. Great Darkness Saga T-Wolf. – T-Wolf Golden Age Superman Vs Ultra Boy – Ultra Boy, but disputed. XS vs. Jesse Quick – Jesse Quick Vixen vs. Chameleon Boy!- Chameleon Boy Red Tornado (JLA) Vs Harmonia – Red Tornado
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Aside 1: I think Reddy's robot body is teaproof Aside 2: Still not changing
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Now, where were we? Ah.
Even though Doc can see in the dark, Shadow Lass' martial arts skills will put him in his place
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Zan and Jayna Vs Live Wire and Spark
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OR: Jimmy Olsen, now a multi-billionaire in the DCFU, buys Dibny Detective Agency in a hostile takeover. Ralph now works for him. Jimmy wins. Zan and Jayna Vs Live Wire and Spark
Oh, come on. The twins from Exor are no match for the twins from Winath. Jayna is just as vulnerable to electric shock in her transmuted form, even if she chooses "Form of a Lightning Beast of Korbal". Zan is even more vulnerable in any water / ice form. Judgment to Winath. Gleek -vs.- KokoNext: The Legion of Substitute Heroes (including the Auxiliary) -vs.- Justice League Antarctica!
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Ooh, interesting one. JL Antarctica includes G'nort, Major Disaster and Multi-Man. Of course, they're mostly idiots...
But the Subs have their secret weapon - Infectious Lass!
Subs.
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Dream Girl and Star Boy vs. Black Canary and Green Arrow
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Sports Desk Results Update:-
Golden Age Superman Vs Ultra Boy – Ultra Boy, but disputed.
Let's give this one to Ultra Boy, since you clarified that you were referring to Golden Age Superman with his powers as of A or B below. http://www.fanzing.com/mag/fanzing43/feature2.shtml says that Golden-Age Superman
A) 1938-42: During these years Superman had a limited number of powers. Most important of all, he couldn't fly, only leap one eighth of a mile. He did not have all his super-senses (i.e. the vision and hearing powers). His invulnerability was at a very low level. Bullets could bounce off his skin, but a bomb or a missile could stun, hurt, or even kill him. Also, he was faster than an express train.
B) 1942-45: In these years Superman could fly and gained his x-ray, telescopic and heat vision powers. He also had a "super-acute hearing." His invulnerability, though, was at its previous level (bombs and missile could hurt him).
C) 1946-1955: In October 1946, Superman withstood the blast of two atomic bombs and could fly into the heart of the sun (that includes space & interplanetary travel) or earth's molten core. At this point he could fly at speeds faster than light itself and travel through time."
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Dream Girl and Star Boy vs. Black Canary and Green Arrow I'm gonna give it to Dream Girl and Star Boy. Thom can make all of Ollie's arrows too heavy to be useful, and Dreamy can take out Dinah before she gets a chance to use her canary cry. I actually think Dinah is probably a better hand to hand fighter than Dream Girl (though not by heaps), but Dreamy only really has to keep her occupied long enough for Thom to weigh her down... What about Zatanna vs original recipe Tyroc?
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Tough one, as Tyroc could do a lot with his powers too. I'd still have to give it to Zatanna though as I think she has more training and her powers are more versatile.
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Monstress. No contest. She would stomp ten types of hell outta him.
In the challenge area, Batman Vs. Brainiac 5?
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Well, he's the goddamn Batman! But Brainiac 5's still smarter and has a forcefield and access to 1000 years' more worth of knowledge and tech.
Brainiac 5 for the win!
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Yes, but rule 42 in the DC Universe is Batman Always Wins. As a metaphor, you might ask "Could Bill Gates defeat William the Conquerer?" If Gates has full access to 21st-century technology, he wins handily. (ref: "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court") And speaking of Gates: Gates vs. Rocket Red Surely Ti'Julk has sufficient control over his power to teleport the suit off of Red, or put him in orbit, or strand him on Mars. However, as far as I know, Gates never used his powers in so aggressive and weaponized a fashion. Besides, Rocket Red 7 was an Oan Manhunter, powerful enough to stand up to Green Lantern. Rocket Red for the win. Can we expand this to Legion Academy students? Laurel Kent Manhunter -vs.- Rocket Red 7 Manhunter
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Laurel. Supes level invulnerability, plus, she'd go all robot vamp on his ass and he'd be so distracted she'd flatten him.
Golden Age Alan Scott vs. 5YL Mysa.
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By the time Mysa has told us that she's only prepared a few spells, and that this one will be a spell of dissimilarity, she's been punched in the face by a large, green boxing glove.
Alan Scott is no posturing Khund.
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Both Dinahs can scream really loud, but Tyroc's screams can do much more. Tyroc for the win. Next: Infectious Lass vs. Doctor Mid-Nite Yes, but rule 42 in the DC Universe is Batman Always Wins. As a metaphor, you might ask "Could Bill Gates defeat William the Conquerer?" If Gates has full access to 21st-century technology, he wins handily. (ref: "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court") Still going for Brainy. It's the force field, baby!
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