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JSA/JLA vs. Legion
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It's a battle royale between three great teams.

Pick any member of the JSA/JLA vs. any member of the Legion, from any team, any time period. Give us a winner and why, and then give the next poster a matchup to decide upon.

First up:

JSA Atomic powered Atom vs. Gim Allon, Collasal Boy!

I have to give this one to Gim. Al is a favorite of mine, but Gim has stood with Supes, Mon, and Jo against Validus. He might have taken a beat down doing it, but that's a mighty powerful guy to survive.

Next up... Dr. Mid-nite Vs. Bouncing Boy.


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The Doctor is ...out.

Doc's main chance is getting to Chuck before he inflates. His other, that the contest takes place in complete darkness.

In a straight contest Bouncing Boy could easily bounce beyond the range of any blackout bombs. Chucks unerring ability to ricochet off surfaces in the way he wants means he's going to be able to bounce Dr Midnite into submission.

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Well, it depends...

As the Black Witch, with the magical power of an entire Universe, and the wisdom and experience of dozens, perhaps hundreds of Archmages she has absorbed, even Dr. Fate would be hopelessly out of his league.

As the White Witch, with only a half-dozen spells available at any one time, even if she had time to prepare, Mysa would be virtually powerless against a Lord of Order.

Next up: Timber Wolf vs. Vixen


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Vixen. Her powers are much more versatile as she can copy the abilities of any animal.

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Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi) vs. Wildfire

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Wildfire for this one. His suit absorbs lots of energy as well as contains it. By the time Kimiyo came up with a decent strategy, it would be all over.

Next: Star Girl v Star Boy


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Star Boy. He doesn't have to rely on technology, and he can manipulate gravity to a much greater extent than Courtney can.

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Atom (Ray Palmer) vs. Shrinking Violet

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That's a win for Palmer. His versatility and experience at those subatomic sizes will make all the difference.


The Atom (Al Pratt) v Atmos


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I am seriously trying to figure how Atom would cope with an opponent with super-strength, invulnerability, flight, and disintegration powers.

Nope. Got to give this one to Atmos.

Cannus vs. Gnort

Laurel Gand vs. Power Girl

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Kara barely eeks out a win as an infinite number of variations of each character show up through cracks in the hypertime/multiverse/Bleed causing reality to almost crash in upon itself. Her variations just fight a bit dirtier. wink

Invisible Kid vs. Gypsy


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Gypsy's power set includes illusion, precognition, and astral projection. She trained under Bronze Tiger, and was apparently an apt student. She also has natural gymnastic and acrobatic ability.

None of the Invisible Kids ever showed any great martial arts ability, and it was definitively stated the when the used their power to become invisible, the visible world goes somewhat out-of-focus for them... they become near-sighted!

I imagine Gypsy could take on all four Lyle Norgs and both Jacques Foccarts, and still mop the floor with the seven of them.


Earth-Man vs. Wildcat (Ted Grant)


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It ends in one punch, as mutton-chops goes down. Too bad Ted didn't have any real powers for Earth-Man to absorb!

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Johnny Thunderbolt vs. Dragonmage!



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Johnny T, if only because he's more powerful and can work his magic immediately, unlike the inexperienced Dragonmage.

Cyclone (JSA) vs. Nightwind

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rickshaw1 #804037 03/29/14 07:44 AM
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Cyclone has the power to create cyclonic wind. She is also a genius-level intellect.

Nightwind has the power to manipulate wind. This means she could probably deflect any tornados Cyclone could throw at her. She is of normal intelligence for the 31st-century- which means she is probably Cyclone’s equal in this regard.

Nightwind is a Legion Academy graduate, and has substantial military training as well, having served as some sort of unit commander.

Decision to Nightwind.


Duo Damsel -vs.- Crimson Fox (Vivian and Constance D'Aramis)


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Crimson Fox's claws would take down a couple of Luornu's duplicates. But there are always more of them. A few more get shut down rather than face terrible French comic accents. But there are always more. Even if it were both versions of the Fox, the result would be the same. A win to Luornu.

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Brainiac 5 vs Mr Terrific


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Mr. T may be a genius and an Olympic-level athlete, but Brainy has the benefit of 1000 years' worth of knowledge and medicine.

Oh, and forcefield > T-spheres any day.

Brainy doesn't even need to compute this one.

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Fire and Ice vs. Sun Boy and Polar Boy

(bet thothkins would love to comment on this one).

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Sun Boy distracts them with his charm. While they are being ill, Brek reduces the temperature to absolute zero, beyond Ice's capabilities. Dirk then shatters the ice block into pieces.

Fire & Ice aren't on the power levels of the Legion in this one.


Next:
Vibe vs Cosmic Boy



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thoth lad #804083 03/30/14 12:19 AM
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Even though Vibe's vibrations can affect any matter, he has nowhere near the skill level or battle smarts that Cos has. Cosmic Boy for the win!

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Hawkgirl vs. Shikari


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Fire & Ice aren't on the power levels of the Legion in this one.



Fire's power levels have been inconsistent. For a time, she was able to turn into living, intangible flame.

Ice also got a power boost a while back when she was enthralled by the Overmaster, but I don't know if that stayed when she came back.

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While they both have wings, and spend a lot of time in space, Shikari vastly overpowers Hawkgirl.

FTL speed, space armor, pointy bits…

Unless Hawkgirl pulls some deus ex machina Thanagarian technology out of her hawk-headed hat, Shikari wins.

Even if Shikari is zeta-beamed half-way across the galaxy… a few minutes later, she’s space-warping back!


Jade (Jennifer-Lynn Hayden) vs. Neon (Celeste Rockfish McCauley)


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Tough one. But IIRC, Neon didn't have a physical, tangible body to harm (at least, beginning in Legion on the Run). So I'll give it to Neon.

Next:

Element Lad vs. Firestorm

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By the time we've waded through Jan's Tromian heritage, how stoic he is and how ineffective writers have made him, Ronnie and the Prof are off having more fun adventures.

Firestorm for the win.

Next: The Spectre vs Sensor Girl


Aside: Even powered up, Fire & Ice are not anywhere near the levels of Dirk & Brek when they get powered up. Even Fire in Checkmate. Even Ice as an Ice Goddess thingy.



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I don't see how any Legionnaire, JLAer or JSAer could beat the Spectre, so there we go.

Next: Kinetix vs. Faith (JLA)


aside: I agree about Ice, but when Fire does her "intangible fire being thing", I'd say she's pretty powerful. Of course, she hasn't done that in a while so never mind smile

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Kinetix at least deserved to make it into her team. If Joe Kelly were writing the battle, Faith would win because pet favourite characters must win.

While Faith had lots of TK power, a terrorformed mystical Kinetix, wiht increased strength and healing powers should be able to take out Faith.

Next:
Elongated Man v Elastic Lad


Aside 1 - The sweeping blast of Dirk's sun powers would sweep Fire away & disapate her, is how I see it.

Aside 2: I just thought Projectra would create an illusion of the DC God. The Spectre would then go anywhere or do anything he was told.


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I gotta give this one to Ralph. Yeah, it's true, Jimmy has the luck o' the irish it seems, time and again. Yet, Ralph has that Nick Charles smoothness. Plus, he spent a lot of time >ahem< plying >ahem< his trade. Jimmy was jack of all trades, master of none.

Silver Age Katar Hol Hawkman vs. Great Darkness Saga T-Wolf.


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rickshaw1 #804133 03/30/14 04:33 PM
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Flight rings make a lot of difference here. Without them, Katar can just take his pick form antique ranged weapons. But with the ring, goes the range. He doesn't come out unscathed in a bruising encounter, but I think T-Wolf's super acrobatics means that he would take this one.

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Golden Age Superman Vs Ultra Boy



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Originally Posted by thothkins


Aside 2: I just thought Projectra would create an illusion of the DC God. The Spectre would then go anywhere or do anything he was told.


I don't think Spectre would be much of a Spirit of Vengeance if it could be fooled by simple illusion casting smile

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