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In fairness to Hickman (fairness towards Hickman from me?? Whatever next???) I suspect some of what happened may have been imposed on him by Marvel, particularly the whole Thanos thing. When you're working on a mainstream publisher's biggest franchise, there's not a lot of room for self-expression. It's usually the second-and-third-tier books where creators shine the brightest.

srsly. He is just running around the inside of the pen of the next movie. worst job ever.


one more thing, I am so glad, after all these years ... Monica Rambeau is frickin BACK!

same not god or goddess, regular person who happens to kick a whole lot of butt while being out marketed by the Avengers primes ... the Xs and the Marvels.

There are moments in a few Hickman books that have really deserved a lot more attention. They are generally part of a sequence of numerous ideas in story with huge scope.

The problem I have is that I've often felt that the pay offs don't really work from the build up. All I'm left with are those very good moments and a vague sense of disappointment.

I've dipped into a few of the Hickman Avengers issues. So, perhaps that's not best in a epic tale. Like a lot of "epic" comics it's basically a cast of thousands, led by the nose through huge events that they have little control over. Events so huge, that when they do have control it looks a bit silly as they are so far out of their comfort zone.

That applies as much to DC Crisis (universe getting wiped out but earth saves everything) to this.

The lost pages at the start of the books, where it takes five pages just to get to the story, were a big turn off. I didn't really connect with many of the events either. That the thing with big scoped epics. They can often make the characters less empathic.

Perhaps they will be better read through as a whole, rather than in odd bits and pieces as I've done.

A movie I will not been going to see, even though I liked the first
Avengers movie. Age of Ultron was crap, and casting James Spader as Ultron just adds insult to injury. I don't even like Ultron, except for his Silver Age appearances.

I doubt that very much, and anyway I haven't got the intestinal fortitude for such an undertaking.

I got queasy just reading "intestinal" so that rules me out

I didn't like Age of Ultron ... and post apocalyptic super hero futures is usually my jam ... it may sound weird but i got bored at the end (even though it was just an action book) and i found some things silly ... like cap's apathetic breakdown and then giving a rousing speech ... or how hawkeye was the only one who wanted to rescue spidey ... or in the one issue where she hulk is built up as a hulk and ... then ultron kills her in one shot. so silly.

and now i am getting it confused with the other ultron story in the avengers title drawn by john romita junior ... that wasn't too much before the age of ultron.

which basically had the same ending.

now that i think of it i dont think i read the end of age of ultron ... it lost me when they started time traveling.

Even though I hate the story that gets referenced, this bit of cheekiness still made me laugh at the sheer creative bankruptcy of Jonathan Hickman's Avengers:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/03/18/so-is-that-what-the-original-sin-was/

blurt.

no me gusta.

I hated that story ... sickos.

The thing was ... it was so sensational and just for effect ... and just crude ...

Because the Avengers Masters of Evil storyline where they take over the mansion had a similar scene, where beloved and helpless Jarvis was nearly beat to death BUT ... it was done in a much more dignified way, it was intense but not JUST to shock or be edgy ... and the poor guy got a whole issue about how he and the Avengers were gonna deal with it. It didn't exploit the attack. In my opinion.

I agree 100%. Ah, for the good old days...I seem to find myself wishing for them more and more lately.

But, like I said before, as much as I hate that story, the news item made me laugh.

Sin? Maybe. Original? Not so much...

And Zatanna looked much sexier mind-wiping Batman than Dr. Strange looks here mind-wiping Captain America.

Ultron does seem like a strange enemy for Avengers 2, since they can't freaking mention adamantium, and they haven't bothered to introduce Hank Pym. 'Oh, it's a robot, made by, um, Iron Man! And it's made out of, um, Vibranium, or something...'

Eh. I'll go see it anyway. I went to see Ghost Rider, after all, so I've pretty much established that I will sit through anything super-related...

I saw Masters of Evil and I thought someone had read Avengers Undercover.

But that's not possible because you guys have taste.

even Daredevil?

Daredevil was pretty decent, compared to Ghost Rider. (And miles better than the second Ghost Rider, which I confess to not actually making it through...)

Really, the weakest part in Daredevil, for me, was Colin Farrell's Bullseye. A compelling villain makes all the difference (as the makers of the Bond franchise figured out long ago), and while Michael Clarke Duncan made a good Kingpin, Colin Farrell was way over the top.

Another thing to ponder with Avengers 2. Can James Spader's voice behind a CGI robot possibly match the fun that what's-his-name brought to Loki?

That is Mr. Tom Hiddleston.

Power Boy loves that bad boy.

Ultron would have made a good villain for the never made Ant Man and Wasp movie.

(a scaled down or new Ultron) would have made a nice contrast between the two tiny heroes and the uber villain. (maybe even get a Vision out of it)

Then the Ultron comes back badder than ever for Avengers 2.

Yeah, he really ate up that role (even if I can never remember his name). Indeed, the only quibble I'd have (and it's not with him) is that Chris Hemsworth doesn't really keep up whenever they are on-screen together.

What's to ponder? It's an utter impossibility! James Spader is a terrible choice!

And, like I said before, I don't even like Ultron, except for his Silver Age appearances.

Although I will admit that if Ultron were voiced by Frank Welker, I'd go see the movie.

And before anyone asks, "Who is she talking about?", click here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Welker#Transformers

With how much we (you and I) have all but put up a statue to the man, I would hoppe a few people know who that is now.

Anyone who doesn't know who Frank Welker is should turn in his/her Geek Card!

Well said, guys. Thank you both. Frank Welker is to our generation what Mel Blanc is to our parents' and grandparents' generations.

I had to look up both

"Lost in a world without reference. Trapped without Wikipedia. Generation thothkins." Hey, that has potential. Now, if only I knew of someone who can do voice-overs...