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Tempus Fugitive
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Tempus Fugitive
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"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Time Trapper
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Time Trapper
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Seems like they are trying their damdest to ruin Zatanna. Etrigan? Really?
Damn you, you kids! Get off my lawn or I'm callin' tha cops!
Something pithy!
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Leader
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Zatanna. Etrigan? Really? I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Time Trapper
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Yup. She was always written as one of the classiest, sweetest heros. Lately, they've tried to turn her into a woman that sleeps around, and now with demons.
Damn you, you kids! Get off my lawn or I'm callin' tha cops!
Something pithy!
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Trap Timer
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Trap Timer
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On the one hand... that sounds terrible.
On the other hand if they have a kid who has to speak backwards in rhyme to do magic, that would be kind of awesome!
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Tempus Fugitive
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Tempus Fugitive
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DC will just mess it up and "modernise" it to have the new character do magic by means of a backwards gangsta rap.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Wanderer
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It wasn't a particular issue, but Morrison's "JLA" ruined Batman for me. the rise of the "uber-Bat" may have been his way to explain how a man with no superhuman powers can stand toe-to-toe with gods, but it made Batman a total douchebag. Did he not get the memo that nobody likes a know-it-all??
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Tempus Fugitive
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I did like the early use of Bat-tech. But it wasn't long before he was lurking in the ceiling, hours ahead of team meetings.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Humanoid from the Deep
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Humanoid from the Deep
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Can I say that the Nu52 has ended my interest in all DC characters?
Keep up with what I've been watching lately! "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you."
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More Polyanna than Poison Ivy
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More Polyanna than Poison Ivy
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It wasn't a particular issue, but Morrison's "JLA" ruined Batman for me. the rise of the "uber-Bat" may have been his way to explain how a man with no superhuman powers can stand toe-to-toe with gods, but it made Batman a total douchebag. Did he not get the memo that nobody likes a know-it-all?? Yes, yes! Agreed 100%. God bless you, Drake!
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Unseen, not unheard
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Unseen, not unheard
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Does having a bow and arrow on a super team turn you into some kind of super creep?
That's Speedy & Hawkeye. Green Arrow has been shown in a number of less than flattering lights down the years too.
Ollie's affair with Manitou Dawn, a married women from the far past, was the last straw for me. Being amorous is one thing, but cheating is another. Roy's intense womanizing also annoyed me, but not as much as Ollie having sex with a married woman.
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Wanderer
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Wanderer
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While I enjoy Morrison's run on New X-Men for the variety of background characters and Institute students it spawned, it's the reason why I can't stand the 616 versions of Scott, Jean, Emma, and Logan and their messed up four-sided triangle.
It just magnified the sympathy I still have for Madelyne Pryor, because both her and her son by Scott are the real injured parties out of this mess. It was bad enough when Scott abandoned his wife and son to go back to his ex-girlfriend, but then said ex-girlfriend cheats on him with Logan and Scott cheats on Jean with Emma. So what was the point of leaving Madelyne and marrying Jean? And what does Madelyne get for her trouble? She has a nervous breakdown, accidentally sells her soul in what she thinks is a dream, and becomes a homicidal supervillain.
I don't mind Jean and Logan being dead. I also wouldn't mind if Scott and Emma joined them, especially since Scott is just so annoying lately.
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Yeah, all four have made very questionable decisions through the years. Jean is the one I find most highly sympathetic. I didn't know about her cheating on Scott with Logan.
Poor Maddy, and the poor child.
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Wanderer
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Wanderer
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She made out with Logan in the woods, and I think Scott actually watched them the whole time. Emma too, with opera glasses.
Looking at the book now, Jean talks about how she feels really alone and wishes Scott would just hold her, and that Logan's her friend. They embrace, and then AFTER they make out does Logan say it would never work out.
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