Legion World Forums LEGION OUTPOST Mission Monitor Board I am in a meeting...

...so be quiet. I'm afraid you will wake me...

Honestly, it is one of those online meetings with various people from other radio stations where they are talking about something that I have nothing to do with.

We are approaching the 90-minute mark. I wish they had scheduled this meeting for, say, 3am. It would be so much easier to sleep through it then...

Anybody else have meetings like this?

All the time.

I'm guessing "rhetorical."

My favorites in Education are the ones that will lecture for hours about "student centered learning." lol And it's not one or two. I've NEVER had an educational seminar on "student centered learning" that didn't involve someone talking for an hour straight.

What aren't they getting?

The ones I really want to throw sharp objects at are the ones that spend an hour reading powerpoints about "student centered learning."

Engineering meetings, when one is in QA.

Boring, and way, way over my head. My job is to break stuff, not listen to jibber-jabber about FTP protocols and header packets and cogs and sprockets!

I've had this SAME EXACT EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I have a few where my input over a two hour meeting is about 3 minutes. In previous companies, I'd just have gone in, done my three minutes, and left, but the culture isn't quite like that.

I expect that to change once I start telling them not to give me any more jibber-jabber.

Student centered learning. that sounds like the same kind of buzzword crap as fedex did with "unleashing the power of our brand". We just wanted to get out of there and go have a drink or thirty.

Aw Yeah Classic Xeroxlore!

It's actually a new experience for me. I have never been in a meeting before where not one bit of the topic concerned me.

I think tens of thousands of us have. sigh



"buzz word" yes but no. It's actually a catch-all that there is no need for the "teacher" to drone on and on for the entire period, people learn better with activities to do. Hence the joke. The presenters of the topic infamously drone on and on about student centered learning instead of just, you know, presenting an example for the audience to work out.

As a teacher there is a certain security after students do poorly on a test to say, "but I TOLD them that." Droning gives a person the safety blanket of being able to say they "taught" the topic. Projects or problem based teaching strategies give students opportunity to apply skills. From a teacher perspective, these can initially have a larger discomfort zone but time and again, research show the later more effective. These methods can seem chaotic to the teacher used to controlling the classroom but for me, since I went to a trade school instead of a general ed high school, they seem kind of normal.

heh. I can't help but wonder, students are the reason for teaching. Would that be admistrative centered learning instead. maybe desk centered learning?

*I'm not picking fun at you. Teachers don't get nearly the credit they deserve. I couldn't be one. First time some teenager smarted off at me, I'd be needing bail. Great teachers are a treasure for our kids.

I'm going to be that person and get this meeting off on a tangent. Have another donut, everyone!

BB, as a high school math teacher, what student-based strategies, activities, and projects have you found to be successful?

EDIT: see BB's reply here

Engineering meeting are the worst, though for me its the ones where process engineering review procedures with us (power engineering). 3 hour meeting to review a 20 minute task *sigh*

HOLY CRAP that was long. lol.

All hail the online meeting!

Nobody can observe me as I nod my head at a bunch of stuff that doesn't even involve me, AND I can actually get some freakin' work done!

Being a mere temp has its occasional plusses.

I heard a term I liked for meetings.

*HEADLINES ONLY*

That was a long post, BB, but, from an educational standpoint, it's worth reading. You're a very dedicated teacher. Thanks for sharing.

BB, I'm glad I took the time to read your big post. As a trained educator who's not working in a traditional education job, I hear both your dedication and frustration. I hear similar thoughts from the public school teachers in my acquaintance, some of whom are not as dedicated as you are. Politics and school bureaucracy can be a big obstacle to effective education. I hope someday soon we'll figure out how to do it better.

Apologies to Lance. Hope he's woke up now.

Maybe mods can move these posts to another thread? I didn't realize we had that many here in education. I guess we all kind of went through it, lol.

I think I like Cleome's idea of "on-line" meetings. That could be too fun.

Your post is now here!

Client meetings can be the worst. Even if you do everything you can to steer the flow (provide them an agenda outline, prepare slides, lead the discussion, share documentation from previous meetings) sometimes you just get distracted, hyperactive, or plain dumb clients who can't follow the map you're trying to draw in black pen in front of their faces.

I hear you, Ibby. I work with a committee chairperson who can get from Point A to Point B, but he has to take an unrelated detour before Point C, and another before Point D. The purpose of the meeting is to get to Point J. The rest of the committee members end up trying to tie a rope to his ankle to haul him back to the agenda.

By Point E he has to leave for another appointment, so we must schedule yet another meeting. But he's "really enjoyed the meeting!"

I'm with you on that one Ibby. I don't deal with clients often as I only do webdesign on a part time basis on my days off but when I do have one...oh boy, it can be bad. If they know so much about Search Engine Optimization and Web Design, why are they coming to me?

And sadly, LT, usually you have to jump through hoops for a week just to schedule the next meeting - what with identifying who ABSOLUTELY needs to be present, to aligning the free dates of those people, to getting the big-wig or big-wig's secretary to slot you in and make your meeting one of the "untouchables"!



Yeah! Intelligent questions are one thing, but non-intelligent questions in indecipherable and incorrect jargon are another. I have one client who can go from "Oh, but YOU'RE the experts!" in one breath to "Ah, but we've tried that ALREADY, tell us something we don't know" in the next.

uh, I had one of those "I know you're coming into this cold thothkins, but..." meetings today.

cold? barely conscious more like...