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Believe me, HAES would tell you you're doing exactly the right thing. So would I. The difference between that and the "standard" diet/weight loss approach is that HAES posits that you are already benefiting yourself even if you don't lose any weight in the process. If your endurance gets better, and if you enjoy your food more because it's less monotonous and you're not eating past the point of being full, you're getting healthier. Period.

BTW, there are also studies that shows the usual media alarmism about fatness and Type 2 is actually upside-down. It may be Type 2 that appears first and leads to weight gain, not the other way around.

That's how you do it. I lost sixty pounds basically cutting out foods that were HORRIBLE for me to begin with. Fast food, soda, processed sugars, stuff like that. Now, I maintain my weight with ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS. Never fad dieted. Never really "dieted" at all. The downside to this? It was not FAST. It took almost two full years to get where I feel right. Those fad diets are for people who think you can lose 100 pounds in six months.

Trust me, plenty of unrealistic diet plans are couched in euphemistic terms and doggedly insist that they are all about health. And they are pushed on people, especially women, who certainly don't need to "lose 100 pounds in six months." Or lose 100 pounds ever. I think I tried my first "official" diet when I was a "whopping" 140 lbs. [rolleyes] But there you are. Hindsight is 20/20.

It's great that you're eating healthy, but you're incorrect to assume that everyone you see who has a spare tire is living exactly the same lifestyle or eating/drinking the same things that you got rid of before you lost weight. Nobody can discern these things just by looking at a total stranger or finding out their BMI, because nobody is psychic.

Did I say that?

"I lost sixty pounds basically cutting out foods that were HORRIBLE for me to begin with."

I've seen some people eat fast food three times a week and maintain a perfectly healthy weight. And i've seen some people have what would be considered a "healthy" diet and still gain weight.

You also said: "That's how you do it."

But another person may do everything you did, and find themselves losing a negligible amount of weight. Maybe the pounds will come back after awhile, even though they continue to eat well. The point of HAES and ASDAH is to explain that cliches aside, those people are also healthy, even though they are still fat.

Ahhhh. When I said "that's how you do it", it was more of a "woo-hoo, that's how it's done!" sort of thing. Like a pat on the back for his accomplishments, not agreeing with the technique so to speak. HAHA. Internet. Gotta love it.

Okay, sorry about that. Still board buddies? [offers olive branch]

I really didn't mean to drift the thread quite so much. It's just that... I recently left another board that I really liked, because the constant anti-fat rhetoric just got to be too much. (No, it wasn't a diet or fitness board, which just made it all the more exasperating.) I actually encountered people time and again who thought I was worth talking to until they found out that I'm fat. Then their whole attitude would change. Ugh. I guess I just needed to grumble about it.

*HUGS YOU* Oh, honey, if I stopped being friends with everyone I argued with, I'd have no friends at all!! I'm grown. And this is the interwebs where everything is taken wrong. Silly girl.

AND WHAT THE HELL?! Why would someone stop talking to you because you're overweight? And who gets to decide what "fat" is anyway?! Hell, by fashion standards (and I use that word loosely) i'm considered plus sized! What a bunch of ASSHOLES.

Placemats.

What if they were Legion-logo placemats?

No.

I'm going to go with an unpopular one!

Children.

I know what people say. "Oohhhh, you'll want one someday" or "You're just not ready! You'll change your mind!".

No. I won't.

I. Hate. Kids. I hate them. They're loud and smelly and expensive and never listen and make no sense. They are for better people than me who can tolerate that sort of thing and/or enjoy children. But that's not me.

XD!!

Gracias. [offers plate of fresh berries that I just washed]



Tell me about it. Sometimes (not all the time) the spaces where everyone insists that they're the most super-evolved on Topics A thru Y is the one where everyone is a complete effing Neanderthal about Topic Z and proud of it. I don't know why, but I decided to just cut my losses and move on.

Merde. I'd better get on the horn with Marketing before they approve production then.

BTW, I do have placemats at home. If by "placemat" you mean old newspaper that was about to go into the Recycling bin anyway.

Textbooks.

The replacement of over-sized, highly political (in how they're chosen as curriculum) with online tools, particularly in grade schools, will be a long term triumph. And how ridiculous is it for kids to lug those around all day?

Piss on textbooks. I never carried one all throughout high school and got great grades. 'Cuz they suck.

(I haven't even seen one in ten years and my kids are too young for school but its back to school week).

Anatomy is a problem since I'm a couple of inches taller than Blaze, and we curve in different directions. But once we get past that...

Ties. I hate wearing ties. The very word, "tie", makes me feel all strangled. Okay, so they look kind of nice, but besides that they have no practical use whatsoever (unlike belts or hats or handkerchiefs). And they can be quite a pain to put on.



s all around! People should learn, being slim DOES NOT automatically EQUAL health, nor does it automatically equal beauty!

But Ibby, sometimes being strangled is oh so much fun

Ice cream.

Oh wait, that's wrong.

Brussel sprouts. Perfectly good cabbages that never had a full chance at life.

Gardening.

Standing or stooping out in the summer heat and getting one's hands all dirty to try to postpone the inevitable death of plants that would probably be happier elsewhere just doesn't do it for me.

There are some kids I know whose company I enjoy, but, for the most part, I agree. When The Boyfriend and I started dating, one of the first conversations we had was about children. When his response was "Hell, no!" I knew we were soulmates.

I agree, too, even though my cousin has somehow raised two amazing kids who are now in their tweens. But I know I would make a terrible mother, so why bother?

I do not question others' opinions/decisions, but I will note that



...is a fair description of the Mission Monitor Board.

Lordy, just have all those chain emails from Nightcrawler marked as "spam" when they hit your inbox. Okay, it'll only help with the "expensive" part, but still...

That's why they invented plastic plants, Doll. The plastic palm trees and Yuccas are especially attractive in winter when accompanied by a brace of plastic flamingoes in tiny Ray-Bans and glowing orange Xmas tree lights (the small blinky ones).