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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
jdpinball #772864 06/01/13 01:59 PM
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So it looks like the Legion book is canceled. Wow, that's really a big dissapointment. Can somneone fill me in on what this Justice Legion is?


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Originally Posted by Phantom Girl
So it looks like the Legion book is canceled. Wow, that's really a big dissapointment. Can somneone fill me in on what this Justice Legion is?


It's what is rampantly being rumored to replace LSH in its next incarnation. Scuttlebutt is that DC wants to try a trimmed-down LSH roster (presumably 7-10 members) that somewhat resembles the Justice League dynamic and powers to some degree and would also have some sort of direct JL ties. Kind of a "Justice League Future"? puke

No word on whether this would be a soft or hard reboot or even if there's any truth to the rumors. And if it's true, it's not a sure thing that "Justice Legion" would be the title. Seems a possibility, though, as DC would probably want to capitalize on JL as much as possible as Marvel has with their X-Men and Avengers lines.

The website Bleeding Cool is the primary source of the rumor, and their batting average on rumors equalling truth is very solid.


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Lard Lad #772954 06/01/13 08:08 PM
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I got it.

In this new Legion, Wally West finally returns!

As XS!


YES!


............Ok, I'm trying hard to find a bright spot here.



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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
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I'd be sorely tempted if Laurel Kent was brought back to be the 'Superman analogue' of the Justice Legion.

But, really, DC allowing a 'Justice League spin-off' to be headlined by a girl, when it causes them pain to have to include more than one out of *seven* in the core League? Hell would literally freeze over, and the sky would be darkened by all the flying pigs.

It's a bit ironic that DC has worked so hard to bump off or sideline any Legionverse character that already has ties to the Justice League, such as the descendants of Bruce Wayne and Oliver Queen, Laurel Kent, XS, Rond Vidar, etc. They are either going to have to and out some resurrections, or even brand new characters with ties to the Justice League (or, shudder, artificially invent ties to the Justice League for pre-existing characters, like retconning Dawnstar to be Thanagarian or Lamprey to being Atlantean).





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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
jdpinball #773018 06/01/13 10:39 PM
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The Superman analogue may be neither the leader nor the book's headliner, so it might be a little easier, if for some reason they actually disfavor leading women (is it a sales thing?).

Who were the descendants of Bruce Wayne and Oliver Queen?

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The Oliver Queen descendent was named 'Oli-3 Queen,' IIRC, and the Legion may have rescued him from an attempt to kill various descendents of the Justice League. (Of which there should be, literally, *thousands,* 1000 years in the future...)

I don't recall if the Bruce Wayne descendent was named, but he was a detective who was in fact murdered. I think this all happened around the time Laurel Kent was shot by a kryptonite bullet, as part of the same plot.



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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
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You may have a point about DC trying to kill off JL descendants and connections, but so far 3 or your 5 examples were characters who were created specifically to be killed off in one story, therefore they can't really count toward an actual trend of getting rid of the JL connections that already exist(ed), so I'd tend to give DC the benefit of the doubt. (Not that it's a crime either for them to do it or for you to suspect it. smile )

Were there others besides XS and Rond Vidar? Because this would be interesting even if it were an unconscious coincidence on DC's part.

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Oh, it's not like a conspiracy theory or anything, I just think it's funny that DC seemed to actively disentangle the Legion from the Justice League at times (such as the limbo the Tornado Twins have occupied and the whole 'no Superboy as inspiration' thing), and now is trying to reforge connections between these properties.

And the Wayne / Queen legacies definitely seem to have been created for that storyline, but I'm almost positive that Laurel Kent was a pre-existing character...



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Re: Legion Cancelled with # 23
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Ah, three out of five FOR the theory now.

Five out of seven if you count the Tornado Twins being in limbo. I'm not sure why Superboy's disconnection would have put them there though.

I can see why Mon-El's situation had to be rewritten, but don't remember what Dawn and Don had to do with him.

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Originally Posted by Set
And the Wayne / Queen legacies definitely seem to have been created for that storyline, but I'm almost positive that Laurel Kent was a pre-existing character...


Yep, Laurel was definitely pre-existing...the Ivo story where JLA descendants were being murdered was after Laurel had joined the Academy.

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Originally Posted by Shining Son
The Superman analogue may be neither the leader nor the book's headliner, so it might be a little easier, if for some reason they actually disfavor leading women (is it a sales thing?).

Who were the descendants of Bruce Wayne and Oliver Queen?


Well, consider how many current DC titles have leading women. World's Finest, Batwoman, Batgirl, Birds of Prey, Supergirl.

So I don't see why DC would object to a Superman analogue being a leader of the team (especially when you factor in the 75th anniversary of Superman and the upcoming film)

But what would she be called? Supergirl is obviously out. Time to bring back Superwoman?

My first question with any JL analogues in the future is, where or who is Green Lantern?


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Since this is all conjecture, I'd love to see XTC in it.
I've been a big fan(i refuse to say shipper! smile) of the Supergirl/Brainiac 5 relationship since Superboy #204, and I really like the idea of the character.

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Originally Posted by Man of Valor
Well, consider how many current DC titles have leading women. World's Finest, Batwoman, Batgirl, Birds of Prey, Supergirl.

So I don't see why DC would object to a Superman analogue being a leader of the team (especially when you factor in the 75th anniversary of Superman and the upcoming film)


Hence my strategic "if" in the sentence. smile It's Set's theory that DC might be reticent to headline a woman, we're only exploring the idea.

I only said the Superwhoever may not be the headliner to bring up that possibility also. It would be interesting to see a Supersomething in a support position.

I suppose that happens to Kara and Kon-El often enough but I really don't read much since they've been around.

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On a tangential note, I wonder if there's a decent name for Laurel Kent out there somewhere. It's the 31st century, so she doesn't really need a code-name to conceal her famous ancestors secret identity, but still, 'Superwoman' could be fine. (Avoiding Supergirl, since the real Supergirl could always show up from time to time.) I'd have considered something like Adamant (associated with an indestructible metal), but she's got that big red and yellow 'S' on her poncho, and 'adamant' sounds too much like someone is going to break into 'Goody Two Shoes' to my ear...




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Wouldn't it SUCK if DC used this supposed Justice Legion to completely repurpose the concept as a vehicle for "missing" prior DCU characters like Donna Troy, Wally West, Aqualad, etc.? I'm talking without even a HINT of Brainy, Imra and anything even resembling the Legion we all love? mad

I know it's all just conjecture, but I seriously wouldn't put this past Didiot and his funky bunch. shake


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Originally Posted by Set
On a tangential note, I wonder if there's a decent name for Laurel Kent out there somewhere. It's the 31st century, so she doesn't really need a code-name to conceal her famous ancestors secret identity, but still, 'Superwoman' could be fine. (Avoiding Supergirl, since the real Supergirl could always show up from time to time.) I'd have considered something like Adamant (associated with an indestructible metal), but she's got that big red and yellow 'S' on her poncho, and 'adamant' sounds too much like someone is going to break into 'Goody Two Shoes' to my ear...


"Superlass" would be one obvious choice, plus there's precedence for its use for descendants of Superman and Lois Lane...

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jdpinball #773287 06/03/13 01:35 PM
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This just made me wonder something. If there's a Laurel Kent why not have stories with any of the other descendants over the course of that millennium? Either the Legion could go visit or save them in their time, or pull them into the future for a mission that requires someone with a kryptonian, or specifically Clark's, bloodline.

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I wonder if there's a decent name for Laurel Kent out there somewhere.


How about "Manhunter"?


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Originally Posted by Klar Ken T5477
Originally Posted by Set
I wonder if there's a decent name for Laurel Kent out there somewhere.


How about "Manhunter"?


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For me, "Manhunter" is so overused by such disparate characters that it's no way to go if you're trying to make a memorable character.

Unless the character seriously has something to do with Manhunting. But a Kal-descendent in a Legion? Not particularly instinctive use of the name to me, and a waste of both the lineage and the name.

Barring a talented writer of course.

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She's Kryptonian...



...how about "KRYPTO" ?? : )

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Given her outfits, "Streaky" might be more appropriate! wink

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Given her outfits, "Streaky" might be more appropriate! wink


I remember that... Shoes, panties and a poncho. I've met strippers who wear more than she did. Initially so, at least.

Of the two Laurels, this one was not my favorite.

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