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Re: The Bitter End (of space)
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Fabulous and Sparkly!
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Fabulous and Sparkly!
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Even if another Legion comic is never published, this is not the end of the Legion.
The comic strip Peanuts has not had an original strip published since Charles Schulz's death in 2000. A few animated programs have been produced, largely based on existing strips. Reprints have been issued. A comic book has been published, but it, likewise, is based on Schulz's material. I still love Charlie Brown and his friends as much as ever.
The last episode of Bewitched was filmed in 1972, before I turned three. A spin-off (1977's Tabitha) and a 2005 film were not well-received or successful. Almost everyone associated with the series has since passed away. I still love Samantha and company as much as I did as a child.
We are the Legion. Its day in print may or may not have reached its end, but as long as this site exists and as long as we post with our "Lad" and "Lass" names, it lives on. Like the Justice Society (which I consider the Legion's only peer), the Legion has had a checkered history in publishing, but they have the most loyal fans.
The Legion continues, because we will make sure it does in one way or another, even if, like Charlie Brown and Samantha, it's only in endless reruns.
Long live the Legion!
The only character in all of literature who has been described as "badnass" while using the phrase "vile miscreant."
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One major thing the Legion has going for it in the long term...
A whole bunch of kids who will have memories of the Legion cartoon.
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Not much between despair and ecstacy
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Not much between despair and ecstacy
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We are the Legion. Its day in print may or may not have reached its end, but as long as this site exists and as long as we post with our "Lad" and "Lass" names, it lives on. . . .
The Legion continues, because we will make sure it does in one way or another, even if, like Charlie Brown and Samantha, it's only in endless reruns.
Long live the Legion!
Well said!
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Unseen, not unheard
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Unseen, not unheard
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We are the Legion. Its day in print may or may not have reached its end, but as long as this site exists and as long as we post with our "Lad" and "Lass" names, it lives on. Like the Justice Society (which I consider the Legion's only peer), the Legion has had a checkered history in publishing, but they have the most loyal fans.
The Legion continues, because we will make sure it does in one way or another, even if, like Charlie Brown and Samantha, it's only in endless reruns.
Long live the Legion!
Wow. They should totally pay you and include that in the last issue.
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Wanderer
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Wanderer
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Until the bitter end. It's the only book I'm still buying. Me too, on both counts.
"Everything about this is going to feel different." (Saturn Girl, Legion of Super-Heroes #1)
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Long live the Legion!
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Long live the Legion!
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The Legion has succeeded in the past, bucking the marketing 'formula' of the seven-person-maximum-limit. I remain convinced that it can succeed again, in the hands of creators who get the concept and are willing to embrace it.
It was never impossible in the past, and I refuse to believe that it's somehow become impossible now. I can still friggin' read Chaucer and Homer and Poe and the Bible and they haven't been adapted to any modern marketing formula, or 'modern audience' so that readers can 'keep up with it.' If there's a percentage of the modern audience that's lost the ability to read a narrative with a couple dozen characters bouncing around it, then that's their loss, and they should stay the hell away from Game of Thrones, as well as the Legion of Super-Heroes. If *soap operas* can manage that sort of large cast character juggling, then there's really no excuse for comic books not to be able to.
This 'blame the short attention span of the audience' for the 'impenetrability' of the Legion is just the latest 'blame the audience for not getting the deep awesome story I was telling' blame-avoidance. The short attention span of the fans had little or nothing to do with the myriad shortcomings of this last few years. I'm not in the know enough to know whether or not this was on Paul Levitz, or editorial interference, or whether or not Keith Giffen made things better or exponentially worse, or, most likely, some witches brew of 'all of the above,' but the fault lies with the product, not the purchaser, IMO.
Someday, our 'Geoff Johns' will come, even if it takes a few decades, and, like Hal Jordan and Barry Allen, our Legion will get dusted off and rise from the ashes. (And when that day happens, hopefully no John Stewarts or Wally Wests have to bite the dust to make that happen!) Nobody could have predicted that some creative madman would come along and build up a riveting set of stories about the Sandman, or the Swamp Thing, or various other all-but-forgotten properties. I'm predicting right here and now that *somebody* in this world has what it takes to write a Legion story that will blow people's socks off, and remind DC why this was once one of their top selling titles, in utter blatant defiance of it being 'impenetrable' or having 'too many characters' or 'too much history' or whatever lameass excuse they are using to justify their most recent failures with the property.
It's not like DC (or their parent company) is going to let this property slip into public domain, after all.
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The trouble is will we wait for that long hoped for Legion writer messiah? I know that when I went on a Legion hiatus in the late 1980's near the end of Levitz's run, I couldn't get back in to the Legion for a long time due to all of the reboots. It took the return of the original Legion with Levitz and DeFalco at the helm to hook me again. With both Legion books cancelled, I wonder if I will ever be wooed back to revisit the Legion once it is rebooted again.
Last edited by Leather Wolf; 05/15/13 10:48 PM.
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Long live the Legion!
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Long live the Legion!
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Eh. Barry Allen was dead for decades. My family is long-lived. Barring misadventure, I'll be up for reading some good Legion stories 25 years from now.
Or having them digitally downloaded into my head, if that technology exists by then.
All I have to do is outlive Didio and his ilk.
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Bold Flavors
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Set, you're right on about the size of the cast. The success in recent years of Lost, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy and any number of ground-breaking, critical acclaimed and hugely popular shows point to audiences having no trouble reveling in a large, diverse cast if the material is excellent. In terms of books, any one whose ever read a Stephen King novel knows his casts tend to be epic in scope! And he's been known to sell a book or two.
Somewhat related, DC really missed the boat by not tying the Legion cartoon into the series and into a toyline of some sort like GI Joe did in the 80's. A never-ending stream of characters can be a great thing! Of course, the duel approach of a kids comic for the cartoon and an older comic for the regular comic book audience is innately stupid and will never work. Which is what happened.
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And, as a result, we'll probably never get a Dr. Landro's Hot Nurse action figure!
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For that alone, I hereby authorize Legion fans from all over to commit grievous violence against any editorial and publishing employee of DC Comics!
And for the lack of a Myron Marks action figure, I declare Thursday to be a recurring day in which Legion fans from all over are allowed to throw eggs and empty beer bottles at the DC offices!
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Time Trapper
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Dr. Landro's Hot Nurse Action Figure. Still searching for Myron.
Holy Cats of Egypt!
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Time Trapper
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Time Trapper
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And, as a result, we'll probably never get a Dr. Landro's Hot Nurse action figure! I mean, at the very LEAST there should've been a DLHN porn parody! DC needs to fire their marketing dept.!
Still "Lardy" to my friends!
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Dr. Landro's Hot Nurse Action Figure. Still searching for Myron. This takes the sting out. Not that I'd buy that...I'm not Pov or anything.
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It's not inflatable like Batgirl...
Holy Cats of Egypt!
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This is why Legion fandom will continue to be awesome, however much they screw up the actual book!
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