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Everybody happy, good!
I hope our god of hieroglyphics, writing and whatnot will also be joining in.
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I'm confused. Cramey just posted the review of LSH 61, the last installment of End of an Era and the very last Preboot Legion issue ever published. Wasn't I supposed to do my Zero Hour review before LSH 61? Do you still want me to do it? I certainly don't mind doing it (I'd been planning to do it this very afternoon), but I don't really see the point now.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Sorry, jumped the gun there. I'd like you to post it, I can delete my post and repost it after yours to maintain order.
...and done!
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Thanks, Cramey. I'll have it posted in a few hours.
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Time for another fantasy archive, Volume 35.
I scanned through the next bunch of issues and there doesn't seem to be a particular stopping point or arc wrap-up, so I'd propose just covering the next 10 which would include:
Legionnaires 23-26, alternating with LSH 67-70, LSH Annual #6 (comes after LSH 69) and Showcase 95 #6 (after the Annual).
I may post this in the new thread tomorrow, but can edit in any changes to the selection later as needed.
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I think that's a pretty good plan.
That puts us just prior to the White Triangle story. So we can stop at 70 then have the 71-73 push for the next set to go through the end of the 2nd Legionnaires Omni.
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Sounds like a good plan to me, sounds like a good stopping point!
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Chris suggested the following issues for the next Archive volume (#36). There's also Superboy #18 & 19, which has him meeting Valor - but we could simply mention that occurred when reviewing Superboy #21. If I may make a suggestion (which I am in no way heavily invested in), remaining cognizant of the fact that I'm a new guy, one set of issues that you all might consider is Legionairres #27-#28 interpolated with Legion of Super-heroes #71, the 1995 Legionnaires Annual (#2), Legion of Super-heroes #72-73, Legionnaires #29-30, Superboy #21, Legion of Super-heroes #74, and Legionnaires #31.
This looks to be fewer issues than you normally cover in one of these Archive threads, but, I believe, has some advantages. The run (re)introduces some major bits of Legion lore, it includes the first major crossover of the Reboot (if I'm recalling correctly), and does not end with a second crossover (a LINE! WIDE! EVENT!) that I personally found a pretty tough slog and might be better moved through fairly quickly at the beginning of a thread rather than finishing off a thread.
My two credits, anyway!
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i'm ok with skipping over the Superboy issues that only feature Valor, and no other Legionnaires.
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i'm ok with skipping over the Superboy issues that only feature Valor, and no other Legionnaires. As I may have mentioned, I'm in completely new territory at this point, as previously I'd only read up through, I believe, the first issue of Legionnaires and the was years ago. I've had a lot of luck collecting the issues I need as I go forward, but am also sanguine about reading trades/collections. The only thing I'll miss is the letter columns, and it's been my impression that those kind of go by the wayside the further along in time I get. I only mention this as context because I was originally buying everything that the Legion Completist, the Wikipedia entry on Legion publications, and the Legion Wiki's publication list. I even have the issue of Kamandi that (unsatisfactorily) wrapped up the Karate Kid series and an issue of Hex that turned out to have about three panels of the titular character seeing Superboy and a Time Bubble flying overhead and going "What in tarnation?" or however that guy talks. BUT, I quickly made the decision to NOT collect every Lar Gand appearance in the early-mid nineties, because boy, was DC trying to make him happen, or what? That said, I'll probably pick up the Superman and Mon-El collection at some point. For purposes of our discussions, though, I'm with Invisible Braniac on passing over "minor" appearances.
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Just reread those Superboy issues recently. They're a bit of fun and work to explain "Valor" to those who are unfamiliar. Babbage turns up so this iteration apparently comes from just before his meeting Lori in the 5YL timeline. Instead he wound up on Earth, has a misunderstanding fight with Clone-Superboy, collapses from lead poisoning, and is saved by Superboy shoving him in to some Stasis thingy from one of his villains right before the device explodes. The last important part of this is restated in Superboy #21 so no real need to read #18 and #19.
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Valor/Mon indeed made a big splash in the comics in the mid-90s, eh?
And he also appeared in the Supergirl TV series (though honestly, he was bearded and grizzled there, I never really imagined comics Mon like that! he always seemed too straight-laced)
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Valor/Mon indeed made a big splash in the comics in the mid-90s, eh?
And he also appeared in the Supergirl TV series (though honestly, he was bearded and grizzled there, I never really imagined comics Mon like that! he always seemed too straight-laced) There's a TON of the Legion presentation in that show that is VERY odd...
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And now the Supergirl version is apparently feeding back into the way the character is presented by Bendis...
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I'm personally jumping off the Archive wagon now that #35 is completed. Been doing this for five years and decided to take a break, feel like I've just been phoning it in.
Anyone else who's interested in continuing is welcome to pick up with Archive #36.
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Thanks for your dedication and steadiness, Cramey! It was greatly appreciated. Enjoy your break.
Normally, I'd volunteer to replace you, but my creative endeavors are taking up all my free time.
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thanks FC, you've done a smashing, excellent job, appreciate all your hard work and dedication
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Indeed, FC, thank you for your work here! I keenly know how hard that can be!
Like I pointed out in the other thread, I wonder if moving forward we can do story arcs versus individual issues? I like how all of Future Tense was laid out like that.
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Thanks FC for keeping it going so long. Even if I wasn't always there I appreciate your work. Well done.
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Like I pointed out in the other thread, I wonder if moving forward we can do story arcs versus individual issues? I like how all of Future Tense was laid out like that. I second this, and think it would be nice I have a lot going on now, would be happy if anyone wanted to step in and take charge of the rereads!
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Story arcs are a good approach, less disjointed than individual issues. Sometimes I feel like there isn't a lot to say about an individual issue when it's clearly part of a larger tale.
This great Legion reread, started almost 9 years ago by EDE, has been a good exercise and worth continuing, personally I just wanted to get away from the weekly commitment for a while.
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Yep - just doing the DnA recap was a big time investment. I need to see what my time commitments look like from a work perspective coming back from the holidays, but definitely would like to keep the momentum picking up from where we left off.
I am also at issue 50 of the v3 Baxter era, and when I get to the end may start a general thread on that as well.
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Hey all. Things have been very quiet around here lately, at least around Legion stories (which is really ironic given that there is an actively published semi-monthly title with the Legion in it currently), so I went back to this thread since it went quiet last month. The Baxter thread didn't really take off the way I had hoped, but I kept coming back to this idea of picking up the reboot re-read where we left off after the Mekt storyline. I went through and looked at the next storylines to go through and I thought this approach may work out pretty decently. Here's what I came up with for the storyline approach based on where we left off: Future Tense (Superboy, LSH74, L31) 2-Timer (LSH 75, L32) Starfinger ("L 95" shield issues 1-4) Fatal Five/Chu (5-9) Interim (10-13) (no real name, as they are four issues with self contained stories that have setup for the next arc) Emerald Vi - (14-17) After this I'll need to re-evaluate, as the 20/30 split happens and the LSH issues are a lot of self contained things linking in their return story, and Legionnaires has its own arcs. If folks are interested, let me know and I'll get cracking as best I can. I will say work has been busier this last six weeks than it was for most of the last half of last year, so I won't be able to crank out things like the DnA re-read. But let me know. I can definitely do one every couple weeks.
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I would pitch in!
re the team 20/30 split I would play it by ear, there are parts with some overlap (e,g., L* 47/LSH 91). I recommend shifting as needed at natural breakpoints - suggestion:
L* 41 (cliffhanger) - L* 42 LSH 85 LSH 86 L* 43 LSH 87 and the Showcase story on Colu Impulse (forgot issue) -- LSH 88 L* 44 - 46 LSH 89 - 90 (cliffhanger) L* 47 - LSH 91 (2-parter) LSH 92 (cliffhanger from LSH 91) L* 48-52 (Mordru and aftermath) LSH 93-96 L* 53-56 (L* 56 references LSH 100) LSH 97-100 (COMPUTO)
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