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[b]Starting earlier in the issue, her precognition could see nothing past a certain point--which turned out to be the moment of her apparent death. I guess that means her power works by transmitting info from future to past selves...no living future self, no power.
The problem with this is that Nura's already seen things that take place past this point in time. Even if one take the "when we're married" stuff as a joke, she's seen the first major battle of the war, in which the Naltorian army is devastated. [/b]
True that. Unless, I dunno, Naltor's being invaded right now...

But if her power block isn't a consequence of death, why would the timing be so good? Brain injury could explain it, that's true...or maybe her power was blocked externally at that moment so that she could be blindsided? She's one of the biggest threats to Lemnos, after all, being able to bypass his powers to some degree.

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what a harrowing issue.
it was great to see the Legion on the run trying to keep the universe together and using strategy and teamwork.

Nura's always been depicted as calm, collected and on top of things. It hurt to see her so flustered and worried but still brave and selfless.
i thought Barry did a good job of giving the two platinum haired babes different looks. i was never confused.

i found the "traitor" conversation between Karate Kid and Invisible Kid a little odd. why order Cos away, then not give IK a chance to defend himself? ...because it would have cleared up the misunderstandings before Waid wanted it to? there is some clue here. it goes back to how Lemnos knew what was going on back on earth in Brainy's lab while battling the LSH on Colu. what is the secret of Lemnos' omniscience? watching all from the Phantom Zone? or the 5th Dimension?
i question Cos' choice for teams. Terror Firma's homeworld (why is it unnamed?) will be the most dangerous he says, so he sends a team with no energy wielders or long-range powers, but only hand to hand combat. and then let's the unpowered Princess go with that team with no weapons. COME ON.

i noticed there was no follow thru as to why Brainy did not want Lightning Lad to go on the mission last ish. another clue? personal politics?


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Giant squids and little fishies!

Thank you so much for that new scan LL. I thought Dream Girl had lost her left arm in that other scan, especially after that comment someone made about her arm sticking up in the rubble.

I still can't make out who that is holding her though. In the other scan I was pretty sure it was Chameleon but now I'm not sure at all.

Maybe tomorrow after I get MY copy I'll have an informed guess...I can only hope.


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It looks like a bald Brainy. Hmmm? What did Barry said about someone shaving their head?

Regarding Dream Girl's death? I'm not her biggest fan and out of all the possibilities there are others i'd rather see safe. But I don't care for any members death.

Still I see this maybe not as a death but a possible transformation for Dreamy. She might come back as something else. Either way I have to see it is interesting.

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wooo hooo i missed your fabulous butt.

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Hi Guys
Well I guess we've given you something to talk about! smile

I did ask Steve about revealing the cover scans, but he's asked me to hang fire on that a little longer. He does say 'Hi' though!

Sorry, but I'm not going to give any answers as to what happens next - I will quit teasing though if you'd prefer?
There's so much planned for the next six issues that it's going to be hard for me to answer any speculations about what's ahead without spoiling the ride - and I'd hate to do that as I think we're really hitting our stride now. Sorry.

Thanks about the art Mediocre Boy! laugh


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Please keep teasing! It's part of the fun seeing how completely far off we are!

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Hi Nightcrawler - I'll start keeping count of the votes - I guess that's one each so far "to tease or not to tease..."

Hope you managed to enjoy the issue despite the turn things took at the end.


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Well, if you are going to end things the way you guys did, at least you set the stage up in style. It helped make the necessary impact of the moment feel real rather than many of the casual death scenes that are en vogue nowadays.

And I'm still holding out hope! smile

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By Gragalog! I hope she's not dead, too. The scenes between Dreamy & Brainy were very touching, even more so in the light of what happened. Did she catch on at the very end - when she heard Brainy say "humerus", did she realize the blackness would be her own personal one? Or maybe she saw her fate before. There will be some interesting thoughts about the nature of her powers and whether she sees a fixed, absolute future or only one possible/probable outcome.

A continuing mystery is "who told Brainy about the break-in?" Lyle keeps denying it - yet everyone seems to believe it has to be him. Why don't they just ask Brainiac 5 how he knew? Or get Saturn Girl to scan him? I don't believe Lyle is dissembling here and guess it could have been:
- Chameleon, in another fumbling attempt to fix things,
- Triplicate Girl, whose behaviour so far has been questionable,
- or some game Lemnos is playing. He suggested to Brainy that this subterfuge was going on when confronted on Colu.

Those two new planets are certainly exotic-looking! I'm looking forward to see what the native inhabitants might look like.

Elysion certainly fulfilled the role of a mad super-villain. He even looks a little crazy in this issue. I really got a sense of panic and disaster from this issue. Maybe the scenes are building on our memories of the World Trade Towers disaster, but the destruction of the HQ seemed much more real and horrifying to me than previous comic-book cataclysms.

This ends with a real cliff-hanger - not just Nura, but the whole mess. How are they going to fix this one?


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And I wonder if Dormir is derived from the Spanish meaning of "sleeping." Is it a dreamlike world?

And Ttrxl? Triple extra large?

I'm assuming that Terror Firma's homeworld is in the 5th Dimension.

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Barry, don't you dare stop teasing us!

Next to seeing your awesome artwork, that's one of the things I most enjoy about having you involved with the Legion!


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And I wonder if Dormir is derived from the Spanish meaning of "sleeping." Is it a dreamlike world?

And Ttrxl? Triple extra large?

I'm assuming that Terror Firma's homeworld is in the 5th Dimension.
I thought the same thing about Dormir, Gary. Of course that means it could be the homeworld of the newest Legionaire, Slumber Lass! laugh


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If I recall my French skills correctly, dormir is also a french word meaning to sleep. If someone who is fluent in French or Spanish, the corrections are welcome! (Hey, Pariscub, you hear? you're the expert in french!)

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Barry - you can keep teasing us about others...that's fine with me...BUT ....NOT about the fate of Dream Girl! I am serious about her. I asked you about her missing from cover #12. You're elusive, clever....(you can tell I certainly like Dream Girl a lot....) So spill it, please?

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That's right dormir is too sleep.

If you looked at the 3 little panels of the subteams on location a couple of the worlds did look a little more than 3D. So dreams makes sense.

Ttrxl follows the silver age convention of higher dimensions not using vowels. Bgztl for example.

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i question Cos' choice for teams. Terror Firma's homeworld (why is it unnamed?) will be the most dangerous he says, so he sends a team with no energy wielders or long-range powers, but only hand to hand combat. and then let's the unpowered Princess go with that team with no weapons. COME ON.
If it's primarily an espionage mission then Phantom Girl and Triplicate Girl, as members of Cos's stealth squad, make some sense, though Cham might have been a better choice than TG in that case. Jo's ultra-vision counts as a long-range energy power, I suppose. But I didn't understand Jo's wisecrack about "the lack of raw power" on his team. If Karate Kid can toss a 50-ton giant, Jo had little reason to complain about a raw power deficit ... unless he was just dissing Val.

Projectra's inclusion, I dare say, will turn out to be a fateful choice.

Cos was also consistent in pairing Shadow Lass with Sun Boy on Ttrxl, though we've yet to find out how those two powers compliment each other. Maybe next issue. Interestingly, the other pair of opposite numbers - Star Boy and Light Lass - are together on Dormir.


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i noticed there was no follow thru as to why Brainy did not want Lightning Lad to go on the mission last ish. another clue? personal politics?
For that matter, why did Brainy exclude Karate Kid?

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Ttrxl follows the silver age convention of higher dimensions not using vowels. Bgztl for example.
And for naming a fifth dimensional imp "Myxzptlk"

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The thing that really bothers me if Dream Girl's death is genuine is that it follows the disturbing trend of Legion women dying standing around while the guys always get to make big, dramatic, heroic sacrifices.

Luornu Death 1-- Computo grabs one of her bodies and kills it
Luornu Death 2-- The Conspirators are standing their facing the Time Trapper, and he blasts one of her bodies
Apparition-- She's kissing her boyfriend, and gets blasted by a Daxamite
Monstress-- She's talking to Element Lad and he goes psycho and deletes her

Meanwhile, almost all of the males who've died get big dramatic death scenes where they choose to make a huge sacrifice or risk themselves to save others.

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I don't think you can dismiss the possiblity that Dream Girl realized what was likely to happen but chose to go on helping the kids on the plaza anyway.


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Is it possible that Atom Girl was at HQ when it was destroyed and will somehow help save Nura's life? Now, THAT would be a dramatic debut.

Just a thought.

Barry, I also vote that you keep up your expert teasing. smile

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I think Nura knew what was going to happen and when. That's why she sent Brainy to help Lyle, to put him out of harm's way.

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Faboo ondeed. laugh

Tease me Barry! Legionnaires are so cute when they're confused.


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Tease me til I beg for mercy.

(intended primarily for Barry, but others are, of course, welcome.)

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