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If not the Miracle Machine, then the Concentrator, which sits right next door to it.

It's stupid for these characters to be punching each other silly when they have an arsenal of amazing weapons.

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Originally posted by Silver Age Lad:
The only thing that spoilt Lo3W 3 for me was the way Briany casually described the 'recently destroyed Earth 247' and no-one reacted. Brainy knows that 'Earth 247' means 'universe 247' so he's telling all the reboots that while they were trapped in limbo all of their families and friends have been wiped out - Chuck Taine, Tenzil Kem, Jo & Tina's cub, mothers, fathers. But the comment was almost throw away and didn't cause a single comment. Even in the heat of battle that was hardly likely. No 'how?' 'did anyone escape?' 'is Chuck dead?'
Actually, Chuck should be with the Legion. He was with them at the end of the Titans/Legion Special, right?

And I think that Cub has enough power to survive the end of his universe, and make his way to wherever his parents are. Assuming that DC doesn't just want to pretend that he never existed.

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Actually, Chuck should be with the Legion. He was with them at the end of the Titans/Legion Special, right?

And I think that Cub has enough power to survive the end of his universe, and make his way to wherever his parents are. Assuming that DC doesn't just want to pretend that he never existed.
Woops you are right Chuck was in the group that went into limbo... but no sign of him in Lo3W


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Woops you are right Chuck was in the group that went into limbo... but no sign of him in Lo3W
Well, he wouldn't be part of the battle scene attacking the LSV, would he? He's a mechanic, he doesn't have any powers.


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Originally posted by Silver Age Lad:
The only thing that spoilt Lo3W 3 for me was the way Briany casually described the 'recently destroyed Earth 247' and no-one reacted. Brainy knows that 'Earth 247' means 'universe 247' so he's telling all the reboots that while they were trapped in limbo all of their families and friends have been wiped out - Chuck Taine, Tenzil Kem, Jo & Tina's cub, mothers, fathers. But the comment was almost throw away and didn't cause a single comment. Even in the heat of battle that was hardly likely. No 'how?' 'did anyone escape?' 'is Chuck dead?'

The reboots now also know that when L03W is finished they have no-where to go (which was I guess the real purpose of the line)
Well, it's been shown they were self-aware during their time in Limbo (to some degree anyway), so you could always assume they've gone through the process a bit already.

If you and your friends watch time collapse around you and your world coming to an end, then find yourself in a forever reaching white void, I'm sure somewhere in the first few weeks you might turn to your husband and say "Oh my gods, we're never going to see Cub again are we?"

Then, you know, have your grieving period over the next however many years you're floating out there.

If anything the Rebooters should be the most bonded group of Legionnaires, given that literally all they've had is each other for an extended period of time.

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I'm not so sure the Reboot's world has been destroyed. Certainly they would have to explain that better.

Post IC there are 52 Earths. Whats not to say the former Earth-247 is now one of them? You know if it fits the whim of DC, then they'll certainly make that be.

I can't help but feel that the reboot Legion's world is still there, albeit named differently or something confusing they haven't gotten around to explaining. Else they'd name the mini-series Legion of Two Living Worlds and One Dead One.

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You can't expect the Legionnaires to have authentic feelings or personalities anymore. That unfortunately is a thing of the past. They're now one dimensional TV tropes.
Now, that's hardly fair, is it? I thought the bit with Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad in issue # 2, Sun Boy's depression, Mon-El's self-assuredness, all feel like authentic personalities.


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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
I can't help but feel that the reboot Legion's world is still there, albeit named differently or something confusing they haven't gotten around to explaining. Else they'd name the mini-series Legion of Two Living Worlds and One Dead One.
Cobie, it's so nice how you think they're really on top of things like that. smile

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still pissed Rond is dead...but am willing to forgive lof3w for bringing back. ..who they did (that should not be a surprise to any one)i squealed for a good half our when when i found out....also i got the issue signed by the artist


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No, he did not. He retained Superboy's form, convincing Nardo that he'd killed the boy of steel. When Supes showed up in the next issue, Nardo exclaimed, "Impossible! I killed him!"
Did Nardo/his robots watch him or handle his corpse after killing him? Or did they kill him and walk away?

Alternatively: We know that the Time Trapper arranged the hit on Brande. Maybe the bullet was something special from the Time Trapper that reverted his body to a prior form, in order to trigger the anti-Durlan (or anti-Legion) outrage that ensured.


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Wasn't Durlan a post-apoptoyltic (agh, spelling) world to begin with? So why do they have cities, and why are they even organized enough to protest anything. I thought they were last depicted as a primative planet very tribal in nature and not involved in UP politics.

Am I misremembering or did things change later on in issues I haven't read (or is it just poetic license)


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Yes, under Levitz/Giffen, it was definitely post-apocalyptic and not affiliated with the U.P. Cham goes back to the homeworld and tells the people he meets that they could have the U.P.'s assistance in rebuilding Durla, if they wanted it.

Yera says at some point that her parents chose to emigrate and raise her in U.P. territory, so presumably expatriates could become full-fledged citizens of whatever planet they settled on.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, the cartoon implied strongly in its one glimpse of Durla that the planet was both a U.P. member and technologically advanced. At least some portion of it was.

All the other incarnations, I'm unsure of. Somebody else will have to cover that.


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Reboot Durla wasn't as regressive as the preboot one and did join the UP (Chameleon was their representative on the Legion). They were generally disliked and were subject to a lot of Prejudice, but did have their own internal societal structure.

We've never seen Threeboot Durla.

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Although animated Durla was actually pretty nice.

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Although animated Durla was actually pretty nice.
I just hope that incarnation doesn't owe a huge chunk of its planetary income to harvesting flowers. From what I've read of the industry, it's pretty brutal.

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Originally posted by rouge: If you and your friends watch time collapse around you and your world coming to an end, then find yourself in a forever reaching white void, I'm sure somewhere in the first few weeks you might turn to your husband and say "Oh my gods, we're never going to see Cub again are we?"
According to Superman, the 'normal' emotional reaction to having one's universe destroyed and then being stuck in limbo is to turn into a mass murdering psychopath, because that would 'drive anybody crazy!'

The reboot Legion is behaving terribly out of character, by Superman's standards... I wonder if they all showed up and murdered 20,000 people in their first couple hours out of limbo, would Superman make excuses for them, too?


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Maybe Earth-247 is in the Phantom Zone, like The 3boot Dominator Planet. Or in the Bgtzl Zone. Or wherever the LSV took Orando in the pre-boot.

Element Lad already did the go-crazy-in-limbo for his team, so they could remain sane....we don't know how long they spent in limbo, do we? They could have been there for mere minutes before winding up in this Lo3W adventure.


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Also before i forget - I am still hoping to see Kent Shakespeare, Celeste, Ivy, and others from the Legion Run to grace the pages in L3W.
That would be fun, huh!

Celeste would be a bit of a controversy, I think.
She was, if I remember correctly ( shocked ), supposed to become the embodiment of the Green Lantern power.
I'm not sure if the power was supposed to be the original Lantern's or the OA's power.

Was that part ever cleared up in the stories?


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Element Lad already did the go-crazy-in-limbo for his team, so they could remain sane....
Too true, sniff, tear, sob.
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You can't expect the Legionnaires to have authentic feelings or personalities anymore. That unfortunately is a thing of the past. They're now one dimensional TV tropes.
Now, that's hardly fair, is it? I thought the bit with Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad in issue # 2, Sun Boy's depression, Mon-El's self-assuredness, all feel like authentic personalities.
Hear, hear.
There've been great personalities in ALL of the boots!


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Did Nardo/his robots watch him or handle his corpse after killing him? Or did they kill him and walk away?
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Yes, the guards carried his Superboy body past the grieving inmates.

I think you are all reading way too much into RJ's death and transformation. All this speculation that it was really Cham in disguise or that he's not really dead, or the Time trapper transformed him or whatever, is giving TPTB way too much credit, imho. It's not like this whole story line hasn't already been fraught with inconsistencies, for crying out loud. Besides, who exactly were they fooling with the private funeral that only Legionnaires attended? If it was Cham involved in some ruse or other, that scene makes no sense.


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You can't expect the Legionnaires to have authentic feelings or personalities anymore. That unfortunately is a thing of the past. They're now one dimensional TV tropes.
Now, that's hardly fair, is it? I thought the bit with Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad in issue # 2, Sun Boy's depression, Mon-El's self-assuredness, all feel like authentic personalities.
Hear, hear.
There've been great personalities in ALL of the boots![/b]
I think Trom was referring to how well Johns writes the team and not an indication of the characters themselves.

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We've never seen Threeboot Durla.
True, but seem to recall a chastened Durlan on the page where a military guy (or perhaps Lon Norg) accused half the UP council members present in the room of being parents of Legionnaires--pretty sure that was meant to be Cham's Dad...


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One thing....If nemesis Kid is dead, in this version of LSV.
Why Old-Vir is alive?
Darkseid turn him to dust in the Annual 2 of the Baxter series.


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One thing....If nemesis Kid is dead, in this version of LSV.
Why Old-Vir is alive?
Darkseid turn him to dust in the Annual 2 of the Baxter series.
It depends where this universe picks up. We know it is after the first Crisis but how far after Crisis it diverges is not really clear. Presumably before Annual 2.


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