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Re: Lo3W: Who would you NOT mind if Supes-Prime killed?
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Originally posted by Not-So-Bad Lad: Originally posted by Silver Age Lad: the best ever Legion period was the eighties under Levitz. For anyone who enjoyed that period, then the reboot was a creative nightmare - like cancelling Superman, writing off everything and publishing a Smallville comic instead (complete with Afro-American Pete Ross no Lois etc).
Saturn Girl married Lightning Lad... the Legion evolved... and then wham none of it ever happened. Johns recognizes what I say and is probably going to put right a terrible wrong. Sorry again. I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the problem here is that this "evolution" left a lot of great ideas in its wake.
- Shooter created Ferro Lad to die, then we get a glimpse of an interesting, nigh-suicidal Ferro in the SW6.
- Because Condo's powers were hard to convey to the audience of the time, he languished in the background before being cast aside. Literally, the best story about him was told more than a decade after his death!
- Gates, Gear, Xs, and Kinetix, who are all great characters, don't and will not exist because their stories fit into a reboot that some others find distasteful.
- Several characters who aged horribly (Dawnstar and Tyroc spring to mind) could be reworked but won't because their stories are already set in stone.
- The classic Legion, whose origin is tied so closely to Superboy, has already been reworked, and will need to be again
Many problems could be forgiven, but if you can tell a better story, with so much more to work with, then why not?[/QB]I agree, and I think this was very well-written
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Now back to the thread topic: (and yes, I agree with everyone who said senseless deaths are not nice ) But if it did happen... ATMOS! Off with his mohawk!
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Originally posted by MLLASH: [b]SPOILERS!
Let's see just how many established LSH folks are offed in this mini... even if Prime isn't doing the actual offing himself...
Lo3W BODY COUNT list
1. RJ Brande[/b] 2. Leland McCauley (for AR sake)
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Originally posted by MLLASH: Sinde?
She may only be as intellegent as a clam, but she has the staying power of a cockroach. Sinde will be triumphant!
Big Dog! Big Dog! Bow Wow Wow!
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Did Thunder have any fans?
Big Dog! Big Dog! Bow Wow Wow!
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Cobes, McCauley definitely counts as established. That's 2 as of issue # 1.... much less than I would have imagined...
Of course, that's ignoring all the Takron-Galtos employees' deaths and Smallville residents deaths though I doubt anyone will weep for the demise of the baby-killing xenophobic future-Kents of space...
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Originally posted by Quislet, Esq.: Did Thunder have any fans? I wouldn't have called myself a Thunder fan, but I certainly was quick to defend her desertion of the Legion after the Blight. She was fun to co-write with EDE... we would have other folks rag on her dainty slippers.
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Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Now back to the thread topic:
(and yes, I agree with everyone who said senseless deaths are not nice )
But if it did happen...
ATMOS! Off with his mohawk! Agree completely! Um, Re: Atmos, yes but it should be um...heroic, yes heroic, and...spread out over many, many panels, maybe just in a little corner. If they do this, I promise to shed a tear.
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Dream Boy Furball version of T-Wolf Kono Devlin O'Ryan
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Reboot Legion. The entire team. If he can destroy universes, he should be able to destroy Archie Legion.
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Every copy of the Pre-Crisis Legionnaires.except for a Val,Lyle and Andrew,and if they must kill a Pre-Crisis Legionnaire let it be the White Witch,as I was never to keen on a Mystic being a member of the Science Fiction book that is the Legion.
I tried to rip their soul out.I tried to make them forget Superman. But they won't.
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Well, I think killing an entire 'boot would be a gross assault upon Legion fans worthy of a punch in the jaw, there are a few from each one I wouldn't mind:
(1) Atmos - make it slow
(2) Thunder - hate the entire concept
(3) Dream Boy - most hated member of any Legion boot? Yes, yes I believe this is so.
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I really need to read a story with Dream Boy in it to understand all the hate.
Just going by his name and appearance he's always looked kinda cute to me. He kinda reminds me of the threeboot's Magno - who was one of my favourite postboot Legionnaires.
Is he not loveable in a 'so bad he's good' kinda way?
Getting back to dead established Legion characters in the Johns 'verse - the count's at three so far :
1. Double-Header 2. RJ Brande 3. Leland McCauley
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Originally posted by Blacula: I really need to read a story with Dream Boy in it to understand all the hate.
Just going by his name and appearance he's always looked kinda cute to me. He kinda reminds me of the threeboot's Magno - who was one of my favourite postboot Legionnaires.
Is he not loveable in a 'so bad he's good' kinda way? Really we haven't seen very much of him yet. He's kind of tactless in a well-meaning way. Never seen him in a fight. Seems to have something on the ball mentally. I'm prepared to like him, but even Waid never made much use of him.
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Doesn't Dream Boy remind you of emo guys? That's what comes up to me, at least. He could be wrongfully placed with the Archie Legion when Prime wipes them all of existence...
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Originally posted by Lad Boy: Originally posted by doublechinner: [b]Dan DiDio?
Mike Carlin?
John Byrne? Even though the context is clearly fictional, I object to the use of this forum to suggest violence be perpetrated against any actual person.*
That said, if Superman Prime beheaded a Didio doppleganger in Final Crisis, I'd LMAO.
*<span style="font-size: 9px;">For the purpose of this post only, I am using the term "an actual person" to refer to Dan Didio.</span>[/b]Well, I think everyone already knows who I would say, so I'll refrain... especially as he is an "actual person."
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Any or all of the villains from the threeboot. I loved the 3B Legionnaires and the world they inhabited, I was just really uninspired by the villains they faced.
And I include the entire run in that assessment, by the way. I'm not limiting this failure to just one writer. Shooter hasn't impressed me any more than Waid did with his adversaries.
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Originally posted by Quislet, Esq.: Did Thunder have any fans? <<<<is a Thunder fan
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Originally posted by Blockade Boy: Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: [b] Now back to the thread topic: (and yes, I agree with everyone who said senseless deaths are not nice ) But if it did happen... ATMOS! Off with his mohawk! Agree completely!
Um, Re: Atmos, yes but it should be um...heroic, yes heroic, and...spread out over many, many panels, maybe just in a little corner.
If they do this, I promise to shed a tear.[/b]Yes, heroic as in worthy of being counted as a martyr. Except without the willingness to give one's life up, of course
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Originally posted by Superboy: Originally posted by Quislet, Esq.: [b] Did Thunder have any fans? <<<<is a Thunder fan[/b]I wouldn't call myself a fan of hers, but I did appreciate her backstory. Would be nice to see her again.
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Oh I just thought of someone else to add! 3boot Ultra Boy! (I apologize to any of his fans, but...) I hate that irresponsible jerkwit (as Cos said, and I think that's putting it nicely). Going around punching all his teammates like that, especially in the first couple years. I REALLY hope he gets pissed about SBP being stronger than he is, and gets his ass whupped something good. And then SBP gets beaten up by all the Legionnairs smart enough not to attack him head-on without a strategy. Whew. What a good thread for letting off steam
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Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: I wouldn't call myself a fan of hers, but I did appreciate her backstory. Would be nice to see her again. I appreciated Andromeda's 'backstory.' Oh wait. No, that's her backSIDE I was appreciating. Carry on.
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3boot Cosmic Boy reboot Lightning Lad (in Element Lads body) original Saturn Girl
One founder from each of the Legions. Now that would be impresive.
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I wouldn't call myself a fan of hers, but I did appreciate her backstory. Would be nice to see her again. Certainly a lot of potential in her - one of my favorite reboot ideas.
Tom Strong, on nostalgia: "I suppose it's a ready substitute for genuine feeling." - Tom Strong #6, Alan Moore
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Dream boy, Kent Shakespeare , Devlin O Ryan and Lori Morning...brutally beating them all with Atmos' corpse <_< >_>
Oh and wait of course the entire threeboot legion only to bring back some of them...>_> <_< That is all.
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