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Finally read it. Well it wasn't as good as last issue but I still liked it. Polar Boy? Hey I will take it. Wish he was blue instead of green though. I love the villains so far! I like Kandor. The less Superman mythos the better IMO but these guys act like Kryptonians should act. No capes or flying dogs. Supergirl is probably an embarrasement to them anyhow. I liked Barry's version of Kandor and the people. Very sci-fi and different. The Lightning Lad/Dream Boy interaction is what Waid has been doing best. Character interaction. I liked it. Very excited by Mon-El. He is one of my faves. Wish he didn't look so darn young. I always saw him as the oldest or more mature of the team. Loved the last page!
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Phantom Saturn Girl was awesome! Barry should smush Legionnaires together more often...
Did anybody notice the gnarly Kandorian burrito during the flashback scene?
And I didn't notice until now but Dream Boy has different glove/forearm thingies on each arm.
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Hi The arm bracelets are a sign of recognition of your status as a precog - Dream Girl had two full arm bracelets, Dream Boy just the one. Well spotted - it's always nice to see folks noticing some of the 'unspoken' touches in the designs!
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Originally posted by Barry Kitson: Hi The arm bracelets are a sign of recognition of your status as a precog - Dream Girl had two full arm bracelets, Dream Boy just the one. Well spotted - it's always nice to see folks noticing some of the 'unspoken' touches in the designs! It's nice to know that such touches are included in the designs. It gives us something to do in the 30 days between issues.
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I liked the issue a lot but a few things bugged me.
What was the point of bringing Kara to Rokyn? They didn't determine her heredity, or at least didn't mention it. They didn't leave her there to live as a Kryptonian. Why did they make her think they were going to and then just go "Psyche!"
Light Lass went too quickly from hating Kara to being her best friend.
If they were assuming that Mon-El was (1) Kryptonian, (2) a criminal, and (3) possibly dangerous, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to release him on Rokyn where he would be powerless, surrounded by Kryptonian culture and have the Kryptonian authorities on hand to deal with him?
But the thing that bugs me the most is all the super powered teens the Legion has met so far seem very generic to me. I can't tell the current LSV from Lemnos's minions from the little Legionnaires. I want to know what motivates these characters and what their backgrounds are. I don't want a Legion of Super Nobodys. I'd rather have a few well thought out villains with a specific agenda than a whole army of generic super drones.
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It just occurred to me, weren't the flight rings supposed to shield the legionnaires from Jeyra's mental manipulations?
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Originally posted by Awkward Pause Boy: It just occurred to me, weren't the flight rings supposed to shield the legionnaires from Jeyra's mental manipulations? I don't think so. otherwise, Saturn Girl would be unable to communicate with the team. were you perhaps thinking of the time when Saturn Girl somehow innoculated the team members from being affected by Lemnos' power?
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Originally posted by wamu2: Originally posted by Awkward Pause Boy: [b]It just occurred to me, weren't the flight rings supposed to shield the legionnaires from Jeyra's mental manipulations? I don't think so. otherwise, Saturn Girl would be unable to communicate with the team.
were you perhaps thinking of the time when Saturn Girl somehow innoculated the team members from being affected by Lemnos' power? [/b]I was thinking of the issue with Chameleon & Jeyra, where she didn't attack him until she got his flight ring off.
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Originally posted by Awkward Pause Boy:
I was thinking of the issue with Chameleon & Jeyra, where she didn't attack him until she got his flight ring off. finally got time to look back at the issue. you are right. earlier in the issue it was mentioned that the flight rings were compensating for the heavy gravity. perhaps that function, along with the other environmental functions made them more open to mental attack. makes sense the rings are not invulernable. they are darn near Green Latern level as it is.
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Perhaps the ring's telepathic screening is not a default on power. It's turned on when the wearer thinks they need it.
It would figure that Cham was wary of an SP liason who was a telepath, given that he had been infiltrating the police. So he put the psi defenses on max. The team on Krypton simply didn't expect telepathic attack.
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Or, maybe, there's a channel left open specifically, and exclusively, for Saturn Girl to get through.
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I suppose we or Mark or Barry could always come up with some explanation. It just seems awkward that it wasn't mentioned when they stressed so much that Polar Boy had to overcome Light Lass's ring to freeze her.
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I think given Jeyra's exceptional psi abilities, she, or one of her allies (of whom more later), worked out how Saturn Girl is able to communicate despite the rings and exploited that chink in the rings' defences
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indeed. Sailed through it mostly, I have to admit. Nice morphing of the two girls. But the twist at the end got me excited. Looking forward to the next one now.
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Originally posted by jimgallagher:
But the thing that bugs me the most is all the super powered teens the Legion has met so far seem very generic to me. I can't tell the current LSV from Lemnos's minions from the little Legionnaires. I want to know what motivates these characters and what their backgrounds are. I don't want a Legion of Super Nobodys. I'd rather have a few well thought out villains with a specific agenda than a whole army of generic super drones. I TOTALLY agree Jim...if we, the readers, don't know what type of a threat an individual villain's powers poses than there can be no real pay-off no matter how a battle turns out. You can't even speculate as to which legionnaire would make a particular villain's best opponent.
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I agree too it's one of the things we definitely wanted to avoid but the problem has been finding enough space in the book to cover everything and unfortunately we haven't had a chance to 'get to know' many of the LSH adversaries yet - it is something we are planning to pay much more attention to as this arc unfolds. I want you guys to knows as much as we do about the 'villains'... they're fun!
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That's good to hear. That's been one of my biggest problems with this comic book since you guys took over: both Terror Firma and this new group have been largely anonymous. Obviously, with a cast this size, there's always going to be somebody getting short shrift, but I'm glad that it's something you want to address.
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I agree also about the "everyone flying with a cape" scene. We've seen that too much the last few years it seems. But so far I've been a fan of the villains. Love Terror Firma (no Lemnos though) and this new possible LSV is cool. I guess many of the villains will get weeded out. Barry, is Polar Boy going to be light blue next time or is stuck as green now?
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Shadow Lass was gray for a while and she finally got blue. Hopefully P Boy will too.
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The thing that this issue has had me wondering about is why were the LSV tryng to steal the Phantom Zone Ray? If Mon-El is the only one in there, is he really Mon-El or someone pretending to be meek and Mon so the LSH will let him out? If he is Mon, then is the Phantom Zone empty besides him or will some Zod-type rush out the P-Zone when Mon is let out?
Or, as always, am I just completely off-base?
So what.
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I don't have any idea what the LSV are up to, but I find it hard to believe that Saturn Girl could be fooled like that. So I think Mon-El is on the up-and-up, and alone.
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Originally posted by duck458: The thing that this issue has had me wondering about is why were the LSV tryng to steal the Phantom Zone Ray? If Mon-El is the only one in there, is he really Mon-El or someone pretending to be meek and Mon so the LSH will let him out? If he is Mon, then is the Phantom Zone empty besides him or will some Zod-type rush out the P-Zone when Mon is let out?
Or, as always, am I just completely off-base? here's a crazy theory. the LSH is in part inspired by the heroes of the past. what if the LSV has a similar theme? given that the first actions involved taking relics from across the planet.(I don't think those were merely random acts) and of course, not only knowing about the phantom zone projector, but having knowledge about Mon-EL's being in there. that shows a lot of knowledge about ancient history. what if Mon-El being cast off and forgotten is the rallying cry for these guys? some of the Terror Firma people talked about the same thing. so yeah, that's my partial theory of everything.
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Another very good issue.
My reading was that Cos had originally intended to leave Kara on Rokyn. But after the "courage" discussion, Ayla changed her mind and decided to be courageous herself, by convincing Cos to come back for her. Maybe she did this by reminding Brainy that Kara still had a flight ring. So Cos also changed his mind, on impulse, and chose to let Kara come with them.
In short, they made a snap decision to do the right thing without worrying about the consequences. I think this is exactly how Legionnaires ought to act.
Aaron Kashtan/Sir Tim Drake
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I think you called it right Sir Tim! Great speculations from Duck, Matthew and Wamu2 - but I'm not saying who's right or wrong yet...though some answers will be forthcoming next issue I hope so too about Polar Boy, Jim!
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At this time I'm just wondering what it is this collection of "villains" are really after. From the looks of the past issues it seems someone named Tarik has been recruiting people but for what...?
Great art on this issue and I hope Barry's able to stay onboard from this point on. Nothing personal, but I just feel that fill-ins should be given to artists of a known calibre already versus relative unknowns that are still wet behind the ears.
I just feel that sometimes the Legion gets a raw deal at this. Why can't we get fill-ins from George Perez or Jim Lee or Jimmy Cheung? Schedules notwithstanding, fill-ins should promote the book and not just give the regular artist a breather.
On-topic, it looks like a major smackdown next issue! I'm certain though that with Supergirl and possibly Mon-el on their side, that shouldn't be too tough. Then there's the possibility that the the Workfo...errr...Sun Boy's posse arriving on-scene. Bottom line though, I wonder if it's been teased already what it is they're actually after.
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