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Wasn't the whole point of the Reflecto story to generate a lame excuse for there being a Reflecto statue, however? I was thinking it was usually included in statues scenes after that.

It was in Annual #1; Shvaughn sees it... but generally omitted otherwise.

That was the lamest story EVER.

That was a pretty lame reason to have a statue up. Why just NEVER intro Reflecto, not a big deal. But having a statue up of a member who didn't die but was just having a memory issue next to Legionnaires who died defending the universe just seems wrong. Very wrong.

I think it was a matter of trying to stick with the future predicted by the Adult Legion tale, but to do so in a way that was unpredictable. If they'd just introduced Reflecto as a new character, he'd always be destined to die. This way they could acknowledge the Adult Legion story but try to keep some sort of suspense.

But, it really just ended up completely lame.

yeah. even using most of the same storyline, it could have been a three-way mind-swap: Jo, Kal and an actual Reflecto (who in turn remodeled Kal to look like his real self), who died heroically at the end of the arc.

ghosts.

Shadow Lass (Woman) and Quantum Queen were both introduced after that story, as well.
Shady was 'let off the hook' and QQ actually died without ever becoming a Legionnaire, if I remember correctly.

I think that the writers then just couldn't come up with a good character/powers for him.
Devlin was a great Reflecto during TMK and I hope that Paul uses him.

Hopefully, Paul won't feel he has to kill anyone to go with a future that doesn't exist anymore since this isn't really the same Legion.

I think Paul Levitz made it clear with LSH 300 that the future should be wide open to possibility.

Which is why I think it would be GREAT if he were to bring Chemical King back, as is currently being hinted at.

Also, he should remember that Quantum Queen (as well as all of the Wanderers) *did* die in WANDERERS # 1, but they were quickly brought back (with the exception of Celebrand).

Quantum Queen in the LSH would rock...

Well, Paul himself basically removed the need to slavishly follow the adult story in LSH #300.

Prior to that a number of things had come true, such as Condo's death, the marriages of Garth/Imra and Lu/Chuck, Tenz's resigning to go into politics, etc.

Even afterwards Paul used several elements from the Adult Legion story, perhaps most notably Polar Boy's membership.

BTW:

#211 looks like what I think things look like when someones stoned.

#228 is a classic composition. Love it. Reminds me of the Anti-Lad cover.

#47 I don't really like the art or the poses, but the composition is good, balanced with a clear vanishing point. How is Condo's power being represented here? These are obviously statues, as they have shadows and a holo wouldn't. My least favourite.

#59 somehow has a lot of energy. The chaotic lines and weird statue placement adds to the spooky surreal elements. #59 gets my goat. I mean my vote.

I still can't get over the legs on #211. It's almost Liefeldian in its awfulness!

When did that Wanderers series take place? Was it during the reboot?

^ No, it was preboot. Around 1986 or so I think.

1988, according to wikipedia.

LW won't let me add the URL as-is, but it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_ (comics)

DON't click on the link; cut and paste it, adding (comics) but deleting the space that separates it from the rest of the address.

Wanderers #1 cover dated June '88.
Issue #13 cover dated April '89.
The Legion appeared in issue #3.
And yes, I bought them all when they came out...haven't read them since.
I don't recall it really being very good.
Written by Doug Moench, Art by Dave Hoover and Robert Campanella.

I was mostly curious about Quantum Queen's death and return as a clone of herself.

I wonder if that story still stands...

I think Paul can probably feel free to ignore that story if he wants to...

All of the Wanderers were killed in the first issue.
They were actually all dead when the story opened and we didn't find out how or why for a long time.

They were ALL cloned/upgraded, except for Celebrand, by a renigade Controller.

Quantum Queen was updated to abilities to turn herself into all kinds of light, blast with light/lasers and other kinds of energy, I think.

The stories and art were pretty terrible, really.

I've never actually read it, but didn't they finally clone Celebrand in the last issue, before disappearing into another dimension?

dunno. I gave up around #3 or #4.

I don't remember him.
Just Oritino having sex with a bird creature to infuse the species with better genes.
Then, the whole group disappeared with the little gray aliens so that the little gray aliens could upgrade THEIR genes.

A theme borrowed from abducted by aliens stories.
SG1 used the same aliens for Thor and group.

And the costumes in that series were ABYSMAL. Oh. my. God. You think some of the current Legion costumes are bad? You ain't seen nothin'.

Yeah.
They were BAD.