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Re: Legion of Super-Heroes Sales Figures
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October sales are out and the book drops 1,200 copies and falls out of the top 100 (although that stat I blame on Marvel flooding the market). With three issues remaining before the switch over to Adventure, expect the numbers to slide a bit more.
10/2007: LSH #35 -- 27,370 , #91 out of 300 11/2007: LSH #36 -- 26,814 , #88 out of 300 12/2007: LSH #37 -- 45,803 , #50 out of 300 01/2008: LSH #38 -- 33,045 , #64 out of 300 02/2008: LSH #39 -- 31,123 , #59 out of 300 03/2008: LSH #40 -- 30,377 , #63 out of 300 04/2008: LSH #41 -- 28,939 , #76 out of 300 05/2008: LSH #42 -- 27,940 , #84 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #43 -- 27,531 , #96 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #44 -- 29,954 , #83 out of 300 08/2008: LSH #45 -- 25,783 , #96 out of 300 09/2008: LSH #46 -- 24,959 , #98 out of 300 10/2008: LSH #47 -- 23,751 , #118 out of 300
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And here's the LO3W Sales. The [] number represents the total with September re-orders added in. Comparing the initial orders from both months, it looks like a drop of about 4K readers. Not entirely unexpected for an "Event" book, but it will be interesting to see if this levels out with issue #3 or if the delays impact things.
08/2008: Lo3W #1 -- 68,306, #20 out of 300 [73,914] 10/2008: Lo3W #2 -- 64,412, #23 out of 300
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Finally the "Enemy Rising" HardCover sold about 1,559 copies, placing it at #91 on the GN chart.
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Originally posted by rouge: And here's the LO3W Sales. The [] number represents the total with September re-orders added in. Comparing the initial orders from both months, it looks like a drop of about 4K readers. Not entirely unexpected for an "Event" book, but it will be interesting to see if this levels out with issue #3 or if the delays impact things.
08/2008: Lo3W #1 -- 68,306, #20 out of 300 [73,914] 10/2008: Lo3W #2 -- 64,412, #23 out of 300 While I'll be the first to admit those numbers are under what I expected...I expected ish #1 to be over 100k with re-orders... Still... It's been a loooooooooooooooong time since a first issue anything of the Legion was over 60k copies...the fact that it's still over 60 k for issue #2 is fantastic news for DC and the Legion. A second issue of the Legion hasn't sold over 60k copies, probably since 1989 or 90. Overall it's good news...and since the title has been hit with some scheduling difficulties that might have hurt sales. I expect this series to get a boost once the Flash and Green Lantern Elements started getting played up as well. As of now my prediction of any ongoing monthly featuring this Legion paired with Superman averaging around 60k copies is still possible. And I'm not convinced sales won't improve on this title as it progesses...that's kind of what happened with the Action arc.
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I'm gonna guess...
62,000 for issue #3 60,000 for issue #4 68,000 for issue #5
and, a debut of Adventure #1 at...
65,000.
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Here's the November sales update. The book shed about 800 readers this time out. With two issues left and the last one being an "Aniversary Number" (50), I expect we won't fall below 22K by the time it's all said and done.
BTW, Adventure Comics Special logged in at #56 with 34,674.
11/2007: LSH #36 -- 26,814 , #88 out of 300 12/2007: LSH #37 -- 45,803 , #50 out of 300 01/2008: LSH #38 -- 33,045 , #64 out of 300 02/2008: LSH #39 -- 31,123 , #59 out of 300 03/2008: LSH #40 -- 30,377 , #63 out of 300 04/2008: LSH #41 -- 28,939 , #76 out of 300 05/2008: LSH #42 -- 27,940 , #84 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #43 -- 27,531 , #96 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #44 -- 29,954 , #83 out of 300 08/2008: LSH #45 -- 25,783 , #96 out of 300 09/2008: LSH #46 -- 24,959 , #98 out of 300 10/2008: LSH #47 -- 23,751 , #118 out of 300 11/2008: LSH #48 -- 22,917 , #92 out of 300
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If we all see the book by its market position, it hang on pretty tight for a book being trampled, ignored and humiliated by TPTB.
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Sorry for the late posting of these. Here's the December sales update. The book drops down to the 22K level, shedding another 800 readers. Expect a bump for the last issue and then into the great unknown we go....
12/2007: LSH #37 -- 45,803 , #50 out of 300 01/2008: LSH #38 -- 33,045 , #64 out of 300 02/2008: LSH #39 -- 31,123 , #59 out of 300 03/2008: LSH #40 -- 30,377 , #63 out of 300 04/2008: LSH #41 -- 28,939 , #76 out of 300 05/2008: LSH #42 -- 27,940 , #84 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #43 -- 27,531 , #96 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #44 -- 29,954 , #83 out of 300 08/2008: LSH #45 -- 25,783 , #96 out of 300 09/2008: LSH #46 -- 24,959 , #98 out of 300 10/2008: LSH #47 -- 23,751 , #118 out of 300 11/2008: LSH #48 -- 22,917 , #92 out of 300 12/2008: LSH #49 -- 22,180 , #122 out of 300
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Originally posted by Arm Fall Off Boy: I'm gonna guess...
62,000 for issue #3 60,000 for issue #4 68,000 for issue #5
and, a debut of Adventure #1 at...
65,000. I'll be curious to see if that's the case. I think #3 could drop by a lot more. Final Crisis turned out to be such a dud in many readers' minds that they might no longer be interested in something that is a FC tie-in, particularly after the long wait.
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Originally posted by reckless: Originally posted by Arm Fall Off Boy: [b]I'm gonna guess...
62,000 for issue #3 60,000 for issue #4 68,000 for issue #5
and, a debut of Adventure #1 at...
65,000. I'll be curious to see if that's the case. I think #3 could drop by a lot more. Final Crisis turned out to be such a dud in many readers' minds that they might no longer be interested in something that is a FC tie-in, particularly after the long wait. [/b]Well, this was at a point when I assumed (yeah, I know)that these were going to be published in my lifetime... It will be interesting to see how much interest has piqued or waned with such a long delay.
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Well, I imagine there's still a healthy percentage of people who simply have it on their pull lists and will therefore get it regardless of when it comes out. But stores who ordered it to display on the shelves next to the other FC titles may be slashing those orders.
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Although FC will be done by next week, most people who've picked up Lo3W say that apart from Superman Beyond its one of the better spin-offs to come out of FC. While I am concerned about how well it stands apart from Lo3W, I truly believe the story is compelling enough for people who bought it to still pick it up.
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I'm speculating that with FC ending, L3W is going to start being billed more as a Legion event than a FC event. IMO, that's a much better approach and one that should have been the way to go all along (consider, at least at this juncture in the story, it's connections to FC are flimsy at best).
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Hey all, January Sales figures are out. Slight bump presumably for the final issue and the 50 number. Boy, were those new readers in for a treat. I guess that's all she wrote for now. I'll include the numbers back to the beginning of the threeboot and let them tell the tale. Thanks so much to Lightning Lad for starting the list in the first place.
10/2004: Teen Titans/The Legion Special #1 -- 61,047 12/2004: LSH #01 -- 59,944, #25 out of 300 (sold out) 01/2005: LSH #02 -- 48,584, #30 out of 300 02/2005: LSH #03 -- 44,824, #40 out of 300 03/2005: LSH #04 -- 43,408, #46 out of 300 04/2005: LSH #05 -- 41,664, #44 out of 300 05/2005: LSH #06 -- 40,970, #42 out of 300 06/2005: LSH #07 -- 39,155, #44 out of 300 07/2005: LSH #08 -- 37,272, #54 out of 300 08/2005: LSH #09 -- 35,834, #69 out of 300 09/2005: LSH #10 -- 35,800, #69 out of 300 10/2005: LSH #11 -- 34,100, #54 out of 300 11/2005: LSH #12 -- 33,500, #57 ouf of 300 11/2005: LSH TPB #1 -- 3,102, #27 out of 100 01/2006: LSH #13 -- 32,730, #54 out of 300 02/2006: LSH #14 -- 32,513, #62 out of 300 02/2006: LSH #15 -- 31,649, #65 out of 300 03/2006: LSH #16 -- 54,826, #41 out of 300 (sold out) (includes reorders of 7,400) 04/2006: LSH #17 -- 47,697, #44 out of 300 (includes reorders of 2,897) 05/2006: LSH #18 -- 45,520, #49 out of 300 06/2006: LSH TPB #2 -- 2,874, #28 out of 100 06/2006: LSH #19 -- 43,918, #46 out of 300 07/2006: LSH #20 -- 41,679, #53 out of 300 08/2006: LSH #21 -- 39,800, #61 out of 300 09/2006: LSH #22 -- 36,735, #54 out of 300 10/2006: LSH #23 -- 41,554, #39 out of 300 10/2006: LSH TPB #3 -- 2,972, #23 out of 100 11/2006: LSH #24 -- 33,985, #68 out of 300 12/2006: LSH #25 -- 33,288, #61 out of 300 01/2007: LSH #26 -- 32,342, #56 out of 300 02/2007: LSH #27 -- 31,387, #65 out of 300 04/2007: LSH #28 -- 31,525, #71 out of 300 04/2007: LSH #29 -- 30,906, #72 out of 300 04/2007: Showcase: Legion #1 -- 4,812, #11 out of 100 04/2007: LSH TPB #4 -- 2,702, #39 out of 100 05/2007: LSH #30 -- 30,758, #79 out of 300 06/2007: LSH #31 -- 30,385, #72 out of 300 07/2007: LSH #32 -- 29,826, #84 out of 300 08/2007: LSH #33 -- 29,315, #92 out of 300 09/2007: LSH #34 -- 28,294 , #88 out of 300 10/2007: LSH #35 -- 27,370 , #91 out of 300 11/2007: LSH #36 -- 26,814 , #88 out of 300 12/2007: LSH #37 -- 45,803 , #50 out of 300 01/2008: LSH #38 -- 33,045 , #64 out of 300 02/2008: LSH #39 -- 31,123 , #59 out of 300 03/2008: LSH #40 -- 30,377 , #63 out of 300 04/2008: LSH #41 -- 28,939 , #76 out of 300 05/2008: LSH #42 -- 27,940 , #84 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #43 -- 27,531 , #96 out of 300 07/2008: LSH #44 -- 29,954 , #83 out of 300 08/2008: LSH #45 -- 25,783 , #96 out of 300 09/2008: LSH #46 -- 24,959 , #98 out of 300 10/2008: LSH #47 -- 23,751 , #118 out of 300 11/2008: LSH #48 -- 22,917 , #92 out of 300 12/2008: LSH #49 -- 22,180 , #122 out of 300 01/2009: LSH #50 -- 22,327 , #86 out of 300
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Awww.
I was hoping it would finish by breaking the 20k barrier. In reverse.
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You're all heart, 'Boot. Though this piece of switch and bait deserves it...
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Ouch - these figures are a sad sign of the economic times!
It took almost 28k to be ranked #84 back in May, and now only 22.3k to be ranked #86 in January. The industry has taken a beating lately...
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Originally posted by Kid Quislet: Ouch - these figures are a sad sign of the economic times!
It took almost 28k to be ranked #84 back in May, and now only 22.3k to be ranked #86 in January. The industry has taken a beating lately... Its a tough comparison though, as May had both Marvel and DC launching their Summer events with the myriad of tie-ins, while January is a relatively slow month regardless of the economy.
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Is #50 the worst selling Legion comic of all time? It deserves it if it was.
Guess threebooting the Legion was more of a mistake than DC ever dreamed.
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Yeah, looking at the drop off on this title the threeboot was a pretty bad idea. Those sales numbers are *ouch* regardless. And it's not like you can even blame it on the Johns' Legion showing up as this book shead readership pretty consistantly.
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Originally posted by Reboot: Awww.
I was hoping it would finish by breaking the 20k barrier. In reverse. If DC had allowed returns, I'm sure it would have.
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: Is #50 the worst selling Legion comic of all time? It deserves it if it was.
Guess threebooting the Legion was more of a mistake than DC ever dreamed. Actually, #49 sold worse that #50. I'd have to check for previous version to see if anything was less than 22K (aside form the Johnny DC book obviously), but 49 was the lowest point in the Threeboot.
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weren't books in 1999 even worse? Before DnA and even the early DnA issues were pretty low, as I recall.
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Originally posted by Kent Shakespeare: weren't books in 1999 even worse? Before DnA and even the early DnA issues were pretty low, as I recall. According to Reboot's post Here you're right. Legionnaire's #80 clocked in at 15,800. Of course, Diamond (and ICV2 by extension) I believe, had different reporting criteria then, but we can assume they are reasonable ballparks.
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I don't think Lgs #80 is a reasonable ballpark, because it was lower than the issues surrounding it by quite a way - I suspect there was a reporting glitch of some sort with that issue. [I also suspect that the sales at that point were hurt overall by having two books a month when it had been struggling for quite a while - Lost debuted higher than LSH/Lgs and stayed steady, Worlds debuted higher than Lost despite being higher-priced, and The Legion debuted higher yet again and stayed fairly stable for quite a while]. And the pre-2003 figures are about 5% lower thaqn subsequent figures in general, because of the change to "actual" orders. Looking at the "threeboot" curve - it had the two highest-promoted issues since [SW6] Legionnaires #1 in v5 #1 and Supergirl/LSH #16 (remember, the latter became a spin-off of Supergirl at a time when when that book was over 100k - and "Supergirl/LSH" may well have damaged THAT book, since it started a free-fall about the same time) and blew it both times, when you look at the way the drops mounted and mounted each time. If it hadn't been for the Hail Kara pass, the book wouldn't have reached #50 in the first place. Originally posted by Pov: You're all heart, 'Boot. I'm consistent, at least
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