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http://forum.newsarama.com/showpost.php?p=4247689&postcount=34

Incidentally, I was playing around with the sales figures above there, out of sheer morbid curiousity. And guess where that black square (pretty much the intersection of the two lines) falls, certainly to within the margin of error.

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if only DC would listen to me and print more variant foil covers that glow in the dark.

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What are we getting in issue 38 again?


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ICV2's estimated numbers are up now:

07/2007: LSH #32 -- 29,826, #84 out of 300

Marginal decline. As one of the other internet sales analysts are fond of saying: "Standard attrition". With a another creative turnover in the works, I expect these numbers to stay relatively flat until then.

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We won't know what the current series' #38 entails until late October (around the 22nd) beyond the start of a new creative team.

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ICV2's estimated numbers are up now:

07/2006: LSH #33 -- 29,315, #92 out of 300

Still on a steady, if small decline. With the Shooter stuff coming in December, I can't see a whole lot of people rushing to or from the title while its in a holding pattern.

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I certainly hope it sells more than that when we take over. I know myself along with my collaborators really have high expecations for this book. If the sales don't burn the charts right out of the gate, I think a few issues in, people will start to notice that this will be a must have title!

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I've already predicted top 20 or higher for the first S&M issue!


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I've already predicted top 20 or higher for the first S&M issue!
You know I really must have a mucky mind. When I first read this I thought Grimbor is into S&M why are we taking kinky but given that that sort of S&M issue might appeal to some a top 20 postion is not beyound the realms of possibility lol

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I think a few issues in, people will start to notice that this will be a must have title!
I agree!

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I'm so excited I can't wait. I've felt this way before many times in LSH history. Hopefully I won't be let down...again.

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ICV2's estimated numbers are up now:

09/2006: LSH #34 -- 28,294 , #88 out of 300

A hefty thousand issue drop for September. Hopefully nothing to worry too much about as people gear up for the creative change.

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If you look at that top 100 list, no less than 38 of the titles are either part of a mini-series, an annual, or a one-time special. 35 of them are placed in front of S&LSH.

53 looks a lot better than 88, doesn't it? smile

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If you look at that top 100 list, no less than 38 of the titles are either part of a mini-series, an annual, or a one-time special. 35 of them are placed in front of S&LSH.

53 looks a lot better than 88, doesn't it? smile
Yeah, I never pay attention to the ranking because of all the minis and one-shots blowing any sort of reasonable baseline. The % drop in sales is what I think is the biggest indicator (and after stabilising over the past few months it took a big hit in Sept.). Like I said, this isn't so bad compared to other titles with a know Creative Change on the horizon, its just that much more of a bump the new guys will need.

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ICV2's estimates are here for December.

Halleluah Jim Shooter.

50 - LEGION O/SUPER HEROES #37 - 45,803

And for the record, this was the numbers for November:

88 - SUPERGIRL AND THE LEGION OF SUPER HEROES #36 - 26,814


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Smaller than I would have thought - that'll be at 35k or less in three months' time.


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perhaps. It's still a better number than all but a handful of prior issues (1, 2, 16 and 17), and 1.5 times as many as Foundations part 1.

So Shooter's still a draw - a bigger draw than Connor, but less than Supergirl. But if he can maintain good stories over a longer period, that could see a lower attrition rate than merely adding an "S" character.


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#38 clocks in at 35,245.

Wow, over 10K drop for one issue. Guess those variant covers really inflated the numbers huh?

Not a good sign unless these stabilise pretty quickly.

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Update list for reference (building off Lightning Lads, but only adding recent issues - not trades or showcases)

10/2004: Teen Titans/The Legion Special #1 -- 61,047
12/2004: LSH #01 -- 59,944, #25 out of 300 (sold out)
01/2005: LSH #02 -- 48,584, #30 out of 300
02/2005: LSH #03 -- 44,824, #40 out of 300
03/2005: LSH #04 -- 43,408, #46 out of 300
04/2005: LSH #05 -- 41,664, #44 out of 300
05/2005: LSH #06 -- 40,970, #42 out of 300
06/2005: LSH #07 -- 39,155, #44 out of 300
07/2005: LSH #08 -- 37,272, #54 out of 300
08/2005: LSH #09 -- 35,834, #69 out of 300
09/2005: LSH #10 -- 35,800, #69 out of 300
10/2005: LSH #11 -- 34,100, #54 out of 300
11/2005: LSH #12 -- 33,500, #57 ouf of 300
11/2005: LSH TPB #1 -- 3,102, #27 out of 100
01/2006: LSH #13 -- 32,730, #54 out of 300
02/2006: LSH #14 -- 32,513, #62 out of 300
02/2006: LSH #15 -- 31,649, #65 out of 300
03/2006: LSH #16 -- 54,826, #41 out of 300 (sold out) (includes reorders of 7,400)
04/2006: LSH #17 -- 47,697, #44 out of 300 (includes reorders of 2,897)
05/2006: LSH #18 -- 45,520, #49 out of 300
06/2006: LSH TPB #2 -- 2,874, #28 out of 100
06/2006: LSH #19 -- 43,918, #46 out of 300
07/2006: LSH #20 -- 41,679, #53 out of 300
08/2006: LSH #21 -- 39,800, #61 out of 300
09/2006: LSH #22 -- 36,735, #54 out of 300
10/2006: LSH #23 -- 41,554, #39 out of 300
10/2006: LSH TPB #3 -- 2,972, #23 out of 100
11/2006: LSH #24 -- 33,985, #68 out of 300
12/2006: LSH #25 -- 33,288, #61 out of 300
01/2007: LSH #26 -- 32,342, #56 out of 300
02/2007: LSH #27 -- 31,387, #65 out of 300
04/2007: LSH #28 -- 31,525, #71 out of 300
04/2007: LSH #29 -- 30,906, #72 out of 300
04/2007: Showcase: Legion #1 -- 4,812, #11 out of 100
04/2007: LSH TPB #4 -- 2,702, #39 out of 100
05/2007: LSH #30 -- 30,758, #79 out of 300
06/2007: LSH #31 -- 30,385, #72 out of 300
07/2007: LSH #32 -- 29,826, #84 out of 300
08/2007: LSH #33 -- 29,315, #92 out of 300
09/2007: LSH #34 -- 28,294 , #88 out of 300
10/2007: LSH #35 -- 27,370 , #91 out of 300
11/2007: LSH #36 -- 26,814 , #88 out of 300
12/2007: LSH #37 -- 45,803 , #50 out of 300
01/2008: LSH #38 -- 35,245 , #64 out of 300

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It should be pointed out as well that icv2 appears to have moved their baseline higher this month for some reason - everything without a huge boost or drop seems to have been boosted that bit higher than it "should be" typically.


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It should be pointed out as well that icv2 appears to have moved their baseline higher this month for some reason - everything without a huge boost or drop seems to have been boosted that bit higher than it "should be" typically.
Yeah I noticed that too. Everyone seems to have gotten consistent 3-4K bumps near the top of the chart and smaller bumps the further down you go. That would appear to indicate LSH fell even more than the 10K reported.

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#38 clocks in at 35,245.

Wow, over 10K drop for one issue. Guess those variant covers really inflated the numbers huh?

Not a good sign unless these stabilise pretty quickly.
But I guess it's quite a logical drop. #37 was not a very spectacular issue, so it did not invite you to come back if you#re not already a Legion fan.

And multiple covers are often rather bought by retailers than by regular fans - do you know anyone who actually collects multiple covers of his favorite books? I don't...

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And multiple covers are often rather bought by retailers than by regular fans - do you know anyone who actually collects multiple covers of his favorite books? I don't...
Um, I, and quite a few others here, do. Especially for Legion related books like the Action variants of late.

rouge, I appreciate you keeping the list going. Especially as I just don't seem to have the free time anymore.

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