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Well, the ancient Greeks used to compete athletically and go into battle naked, but I never did get the practicality of that. Why not just get a tattoo that says "Cut me here."?

How Shady can even perform routine tasks in that next to nothing outfit without exposing herself is a mystery to me. How's she supposed to fight off alien hordes and super villains who are out to kill her in her underwear goes beyond any suspension of disbelief I can muster.

She's the mistress of darkness for crying out loud. I'd think she'd be much more comfortable cloaking herself in robes than exposing every inch of her body.

As I've said before, it seems to me the Legionnaires ought to have different uniforms for different occassions. So if Shady wants to wear a swimsuit hanging around base, more power to her, but in battle she'd wear battle armor!

Unlike certain 21st century DC hero-couples (Green Arrow & Black Canary, Vox & Bumblebee, Aquaman & Mera, a few others), I don't have any particular attachment for any of the romantic couplings in the Legion.

Paul could break them all up and pair them with new people and I don't think I'd care too much (yes - that includes Gim & Yera). That said, Mon and Tasmia were one of the couples I liked most.

I won't go to war over it or anything-- promise.

I just like anything that makes female characters slightly less interchangeable with one another.

Also, come to think of it, you'd think she'd opt for a different hair color since she's on the same team as the woman she used to impersonate. A nice auburn or strawberry blonde would be more... considerate.

<span style="font-size: 10px;">And don't even get me started about her pink capri navel-baring jumpsuit thing...</span>

Wasn't the Submariner also eventually confined to a unitard as well? Maybe Kazar could wear a jumpsuit and a nice animal-patterned necktie while he swings around the jungle or something.

I swear... Then the guys who perpetrate this kind of b.s. have the unmitigated gall to claim that it's female fans who're being "prudish." Gah.

[insert 3-hour rant here]

<span style="font-size: 10px;">Now I need a drink.</span>

The gals that go topless in Europe ARE thought about and oogled, don't kid yourself.

And I find Diana's outfit just as objectifying and stupid as I do Tasmia's.
She's supposed to be a goodwill ambassador but her major clothing is instantly insulting to over half the world's population!
And did I say it was stupid?

I certainly don't want mainstream comic artists concentrating on portraying sexual features.
If you want porn, buy porn.
Don't place it in the general population.

That may be 'puritanical' but we're paying the price nowadays with all of our 'freedom' to be explicit.
imo

And it's not practical or beautiful!

Cool Tyroc updates! Let's see the all white body suit second one in looks great, maybe with the collar shorter..and the new costume looks much better all white! Thanx, you have proved a point!

For that they do not stop thinking of the prominent figures of legion of super-heroes in thousand years in the future with other cultures and religions as if they were one pathetic persons of the century twenty-one with his fears and miseries?
If he does not like the suits, since they do not buy it and devote themselves to see reality shows where fat and uncultivated women devote themselves to talk of the handsome people.
I want to read good stories , drawn well caracthers, with sexy suits
These are comics...
So many prudishness tires very much..
And for the warriors.....
Has nobody seen Spartcus Blood and Sand?

Definitely. Any pretense that they want the 'iconic' look of a costume that has remained mostly static for decades (like Superman or Batman) is pretty much out the window anyway, so why not have a few of the Legionnaires mix it up regularly?

I could see Dreamy showing up in mission-themed outfits or something.

"Do you really need the furry hood and long coat, Nura? Our Flight Rings protect us from the weather here on planet Ice."

"It goes well with what the natives are wearing. I didn't want to make a bad first impression."

"The natives have fur. You're wearing fur."

"That was the impression I was going for, actually, let them know I'm not messing around..."

Tastes vary.

Tossing around words like 'pathetic' or 'prude' or 'stupid' probably aren't going to raise the level of the discourse (or convince anyone of anything).

I'd feel more comfortable with this thread if we weren't flirting so egregiously with insulting the hell out of our fellow Legion fans...

However, if you're going to take that reasoning to its logical conclusion, it's not just the skimpy outfits that are trouble. All superhero outfits except for a vanishingly small number are completely unsuited for battle, and a good number of them are unsuited for everyday activities.

[Edna Mode] No. Capes! [/Edna Mode]

Ok so Shady's current costume is a bit too skimpy to serve her all that well, especially when you compare her to her female teammates who for the most part are acceptably covered up (boob windows for both Jeckie and Dawny not withstanding). The more serious/respectable/whatever costumes make sense since this is the "classic" Legion.

My mind always instantly goes back to Night Girl from the 80's (circa James Sherman's run) ... MAN was THAT bikini totally inappropriate for a super-heroine or what?? But at the same time the phrase "va-va-voom!!!" is definately in my mind as well.
It was so risque for its time that it made Saturn Girl in her pink bikini look like a nun by comparison.

In issue #2 we see Tyroc has gone from go-go boy in the 70's and 80's to total frump in an ugly new costume within a matter of a couple of decades!
*snicker*
sorry ... couldn't resist saying it again.

Yeah, given that she was super-strong, but *not* in any way invulnerable, that was a crazy outfit. And she looked so much hooter in the unitard-and-bouffant (sp?), anyway, IMO.

Laurel Kent dressing like that made sense, since she was invulnerable. (And, even then, Laurel to me will always be in that awesome S-poncho!)

Then again, these were the days when Travis Morgan was running through the jungles of Skartaris fending off dinosaur attacks and spear-wielding foes wearing a naught but a squirrel pelt over his junk.

Crazy people!

And Imra, too. If my power was telepathy, and stuff was blowing up all around me all the time and people were throwing punches and shooting blasters, my 'pink bikini' would be what I was wearing under the battlesuit.

Tinya, being more effectively 'invulnerable' than the average invulnerable person, is about the only full-time Legion lass who has any excuse to be wearing a bikini into battle, and, go figure, she's the one Legion lady who consistently wears *pants.*

Again, that's true whether the costume is skimpy or not. If I was Lightning Lad, I'd wear a battlesuit too. It's not as if being able to toss around lightning bolts gives me any particular resistance to bullets, blasters, or hitting my head and getting a concussion.

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FWIW, I think double standards tend to originate from the top and trickle downward. Those who manufacture our culture are pretty quick to hide behind the notion that they're only giving "the public what it wants," while they also seem hell-bent on denying their own place in shaping what choices the public has available to it.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I sounded insulting. I've just never, ever understood why viewing culture with a critical and/or analytic eye automatically relegates one to being a "prude."

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How does this address the point that Lightning Lad has more of his skin covered than his sister does? Or that Grev is usually shown with more of his skin covered than his cousin Tasmia?

I didn't say the fan was stupid, I said Diana's and Tasmia's costumes are stupid.

Which I think is totally acceptable.

I haven't commented on their bathing suits or evening wear or shopping costumes, just the clothes that they wear into combat, and in Diana's case, into diplomatic situations.

And cultural eras mean nothing.
The Minoan culture had their women exposing their breasts in their everyday outfits.
Some African and South American natives do in their tribal lives.
Usually the males dress similarly.

I don't live in those cultures and neither do my grandchildren.

I stand by my objections to skimpy outfits for superheroes and heroines in mainstream comics.

This is my rough draft version of a Tyroc costume.

That... looks like nothing I've seen before...

There's Kirby dots, and Rising Sun-esque stripes, and bold black and white, and gold accents. The big black shoulder pad-looking thing, and the smaller black 'belt' across the side over the hip, wow.

It's awesome! You're hired!

The costume discussion is now consolidated here...

Wow! What a nice compliment!

^ I really like that costume Matt. It reminds me of Reboot Star Boy's outfit and that's one of my favourite costumes ever.

It doesn't, it addresses a different point, which is that Saturn Girl's costume is unrealistic because there are things she could wear that would protect her more, to which the reply is that pretty much all superheroes have that problem, not just the ones in skimpy clothes.

I know these costumes are a point of contention amongst Legion fans, but I actually enjoyed them. The piping and random additions were, in some cases, frivolous but I think it evoked a feeling of futuristic (lame word? yes but none other came to mind) while still calling upon the classic style of each individual Legionnaire.

Also, I wouldn't mind Saturn Girl growing her hair out. Frank has the only one whose been able to do it right (I assume he was attempting to make her look like Mia Farrow) but I don't think Perez or Cinar have been able to do it much justice.