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Love seeing Cham, Vi and Lyle together. Not crazy about the art, based on the preview.
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It is an improvement over the last artist, IMO. Lotsa energy.
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Yeah, I much prefer this art....good to see Lyle too!
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This artist is better than the last one, but the characters look almost creepily young.
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They look like young teenagers...which they would be, given the timeframe?
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I like what I see so far. The art is ok in my opinion, let's give this guy a chance. I too enjoy seeing Lyle again. The enthusiasm coming from the young Legion is awesome! I commend Paul on his fine writing abilities. The dialogue and attitudes of this younger Legion contrast well with those displayed in the parent book.
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Love his first page interpretation of Violet, and it's great to see Lyle in action.
Cham's smile seems odd to me, and Lyle's strange Liefield-esque shouting-face when he's presumably asking a question relatively calmly and quietly (since they are *sneaking aboard an enemy ship*) is a little off.
The face Violet is making on the second page, 'Besides giving them a laugh?' looks creepy strange, like something Gary Frank would have drawn. I don't mind this new artist, but he's got the Legionnaires faces showing stuff that doesn't seem to fit the dialogue or the situation, as if the story was changed after the art had already been ordered...
Odd that a woman that can fly would choose riding a rat as a means of getting around. On the meta front, they have to show off their abilities for the 'new readers,' but on an in-story front, perhaps they just are reveling in their abilities (Lyle, for instance, has no reason to be invisible, when he's talking to a talking rat ridden by a tiny woman, and is only the most freaking obvious 'invisible person' one could imagine...).
Superboy looks like he's twelve. Wow. The others look like teens, but he's positively tiny!
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I'm *really* liking what I see here! The art is a huge improvement - I'd even go as far as to say I wouldn't mind this guy being the permananent Legion artist in Adventure - and I'm loving the choice of Legionnaires to focus on in the Zaryan portion (major yawns to the choice of members in the 21st century of course). iBut it's so great seeing Reep, Salu and especially Lyle all looking good and acting dynamic in the pages of this book. I'm looking forward to an issue of Adventure Comics. How long has it been since I've been able to say that?
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Originally posted by razsolo: They look like young teenagers...which they would be, given the timeframe? I kind of like it... except that it makes the fact that they were getting wasted and hopping into bed with one another a couple of issues ago even more icky.
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I kind of like it... except that it makes the fact that they were getting wasted and hopping into bed with one another a couple of issues ago even more icky. You have got to stop thinking with a 21st century mindset when it comes to 31st century mores. FYI: Mores, in sociology, are any given society's particular norms, virtues or values.
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Without a doubt, the best story the new version of the Legion has seen. This actually gives me hope for the series
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Originally posted by Iam Legion: Without a doubt, the best story the new version of the Legion has seen. This actually gives me hope for the series <faints>
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Originally posted by Sir Tim Drake: This artist is better than the last one, but the characters look almost creepily young. The faces don't seem to have the distracting amount of rendering they had earlier on. I actually think it's an improvement, personally. I didn't mind Sharpe's composition and design, but his faces always looked out of whack to me. Also, it looks like this era's Brainy uses the same permanent wave formula that Colossal Boy used to use.
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So nice to see a more "human" Brainy again. Pretty good issue all around, although Lyle fans may not be too pleased with his portrayal (though I was fine with it). Definitely not the super-competent reboot version.
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I liked this issue. It is spot-on as far as capturing that youthful, exciting newness that the young Legionnaires exude from their actions and how they interact with each other. They are a group of youths just starting to learn about each other.
This is in stark contrast to the regular "parent" Legion book. Those relationships have a feeling of comfortable familiarity. Only someone like Paul knows the characters enough that he can write them past and present and show us a clear difference between the two.
The story itself was a fun little romp. I love those two team stories where one team is out investigating current events while the other is "setting history straight", once again (sigh) by sending a team back to the past. Was this story meant to introduce us to the Espionage Squad's first roster? Yes I think it was. Not a bad first mission together I think. Zaryan got away .... oh well, we knew he would. At least they got the cargo.
I find it interesting that Cham chose to keep reverting back to a rat each time, among the many forms he could have chosen from!
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He might have just discovered the shape and found it funny and versatile. Except for the whiteness (although lab/science rats might have been the ones to make it to spaceships), a rat might be something that is usually ignored on pirate ships. Without the girl on his back, of course.
Or, it might just be that the artist lacks 'aliens' imagination.
And if Imra and Cos getting drunk and going to bed with each other were the 'norm' for that society, they wouldn't have reacted the way that they did, afterward. It was the same with the Prime Ayla. If her actions were a normal part of THAT culture, the guys wouldn't have talked about her the way that they did.
If the writers want to show different morals as part of the future, they need to follow through, rather than showing our cultural reactions to what happens. imo
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[snip] Originally posted by Candle: ...If the writers want to show different morals as part of the future, they need to follow through, rather than showing our cultural reactions to what happens. imo brb. stealing this.
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This was a good issue. I liked the Smallville section opposed to the Zayyan section. While the Smallville section is like the issue where Clark has his one good day, this goes beyond that with the threat of the brainiac drone. The zaryan section seemed like there was story that we missed reading. And it was marred by what I consider the worst drawings of Shrinking Violet. Beyond that the art was good.
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[snip] Originally posted by future king: ...I find it interesting that Cham chose to keep reverting back to a rat each time, among the many forms he could have chosen from! He's secretly the 31st Century's biggest Charlotte's Web fan.
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I flipped through it at the store, but didn't like the art so I didn't buy it. Did like the invisibility effect on Lyle though.
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Originally posted by cleome: [snip]
Originally posted by future king: [b] ...I find it interesting that Cham chose to keep reverting back to a rat each time, among the many forms he could have chosen from! He's secretly the 31st Century's biggest Charlotte's Web fan.
[/b]LOL Yeah, that could very well be .... I just thought Paul was forshadowing that Reep might do something underhanded in the near future, which he'll regret later. Something else else to make us say he's a dirty rat? Nhhaaaa, I'm wrong.
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I liked the issue, but was very surprised that Brainy's checklist didn't contain some reference to his recent cockroach-eradication obsession.
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Definitely the best issue yet. I might even go so far as to say I really liked it! The art was fabbo I thought. I really don't get how anyone could complain about this art. Especially after what we've had the last few months. All the members (especially Lyle) looked great IMO. Speaking of Lyle - yes, this was a very different Invisible Kid to the supremely confident/able Espionage Squad leader of the Reboot... but I can dig it. This is a different Lyle and at a slightly earlier stage in his hero career. I hope we get to see him grow into the Ultra Boy-punching, commanding leader we know he becomes though. I miss Lyle! The 20th century story was fun too - with a clever reason for them to be back in that era. Good issue all around IMO. I hope this means Paul has found his groove here at last and all future issues will be equally as good.
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