Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Legion of Super-Heroes #13 Preview/Eventual Discussion

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Not a whole lot to go on here, but I felt there should be a thread about it.

Thanks for starting the thread, Jay Kay. Good to see ya being so active right off the bat!

Cos being the more stern leader seems (to me) a lot like his Preboot self, but his Postboot self (at least at the beginning) was more firm yet encouraging. Course, as time went on Postboot Cos also became more strict...

Element Lad taking Chemical Kid under his wing, and defeinding him to Cos yet giving Chem the "just shut up and agree" look right after seems "right" to me too.

As for Chemical Kid... ugh. Given how arrogant he was back in the Academy, his current characterization doesn't make me like him at all. He acts like a new kid with his head lost in the clouds, talks back, and just generally seems like an entitled young rich kid. Boo.

Yeah, I was wondering about that--the Legion Academy stuff was one of the modern books I didn't pick up, but I would have thought if this guy graduated from it to the big league, he would be a lot less green than this.

That's a big reason why a lot of fans are all up in arms over the newbies' inclusion (Chem, Glorith, Dragonwing, CQ and especially Harmonia) over arguably better students like Nightwind, Lamprey, Power Boy...

I bet they all slept with Rokk to get in!

That would be a better story than what we got!

Maybe that's why Gravity Kid REALLY quit! Power Boy told him about Rokk's demands for sex - and he was so disgusted he didn't want anything to do with the Legion!

So a Brainy spotlight followed by a Cosmic Boy spotlight. I'm so glad we're getting to see more of these 2 under-utilized Legionnaires. I sure hope we get to see more of Garth and Imra soon! I think I've forgotten what they look like.

I wouldn't say it's a Cos spotlight, there were plenty of scenes to go around. When's the last time we saw Tinya and Dirk work together (I always loved the scenes that would end with her throwing a drink at him)?

Not sure I like the new Persuader hooded look or the fact that the U.P. executed Tharok. Seems that there's a lot of backstory out the window with the Fatal Five after all. So now do we not only have Ferro's death with a question mark, but the circumstances of Blok joining as well, if all the Dark Man stuff didn't happen.

Other than that, I liked the issue. A good set of moving parts and a good selection of Legionnaires, even if a lot of them are carried over from the last arc.

I thought it was a decent issue connecting the dots between the last storyline and the next. The only bummer was the announcement for Legion Leader election excludes the Legion Lost members. With that title being cancelled I would think they'd be eligible now. Also surprised you have to mail in votes. That's so Stone Age. You'd think there be a place to text votes or hit like on a Facebook page or something!

We need storylines like this in our lives. The legion has been sorely lacking in real soap opera melodrama lately. And I agree about Chemical Kid. I just keep imagining him as Condo and he just keeps falling short. He's not good enough at his powers to have as much attitude as he does.

*squee* Brainy spotlight. *squee*

I wasn't impressed by the preview pages of this issue at all, but I really enjoyed the full story! For once, it actually felt a bit like a "classic Levitz" issue, with a bunch of different subplots being touched on, and quite a few characters getting at least a moment in the spotlight. Lots of interesting little character bits, too. Especially enjoyed the scene with Nura and Lu.

I wonder if there were problems with the online voting system last time.

It would've been nice if they provided a list of eligible members, though. I'm assuming my top choice, Luornu, is disqualified, despite being prominently featured in the last few issues.

In the online election, there were a ton of votes for Earth-Man, who is, from a narrative standpoint, pretty much the last person any of the Legionnaires would have voted for (save perhaps Shady, or the always unpredictable Quislet).

Perhaps Paul doesn't want to get written into a corner by this sort of thing (since it's easier for people who aren't fans of the Legion, or just want to 'stir stuff up' to click a button on an online poll, than it is for them to buy a stamp and mail in a vote).

As usual, I'll be voting for Ayla, Reep or Tinya. Someone who 'makes sense' to be considered for a leadership position, based on their activity and role and relationships within the team, and yet someone (unlike Rokk or Querl or Nura) who isn't already 'on-screen' 24/7 anyway.

Another dynamic Lightle cover. No complaints from me regarding the Kolins's interiors. I just miss Portela.

It's nice that Levitz is using small teams and mixing up their interactions a bit. I enjoyed seeing Rokk, Jan, and Hadru together. All seemed to be in character. Loved seeing catty Nura in her scene with Lu.

I agree, it would have been nice if a list of active members had been provided in conjunction with the election announcement.

I noticed that when Mon-el was discussing the situation with Wild Goose Chasing Team #2 he states: "If an attempt is being made to RECREATE the Fatal Five..." Recreate? Ok so I'm foggy on some more recent Legion history. (and this is beside the obvious it's a nu universe Legion) The EE is dead, and I guess Tharok was executed. Mano? So does this mean that the Legion has previously met the 5 and some major Legion history is intact or am I just being hopeful?

Per Levitz: "We've been starting to build this whole set of threads around the idea that the Fatal Five is being reformed. In the New DC logic, the Legion hasn't met the Fatal Five -- there apparently was one in the cosmos, and it's coming back together or it's in danger of coming back together"

Well, it doesn't really sound right with how it's actually written, and it doesn't come out and say it, so until they literally say it out-loud that the Legion never met them, I'm just going to pretend that it was never said.

Or, as Adam Savage said best, "I deny your reality, and substitute my own."

Anyway--is it just me, or was Dream Girl implying that Duplicate Damsel has a thing for Brainy? O_O

That's the way I read it.

Hmm... if so, it could be an interesting way of dealing with the lack of or at least more limited role for the super-cousins in Legion history. Instead of the awkward Brainy-Kara relationship and Lu's crush on Kal-El, we get an awkward Brainy-Lu relationship or something?

Well, I guess you could have it that this Supergirl did become part of the Legion, but at a later time, when the Flashpoint Event isn't so wonky. The only problem is that at some point later on someone would have to have Kara meet the Legion for the first time and that kind of dangling plot thread can be risky.

That said, it would probably be nice for Brainy to have a girlfriend that isn't WAY long-distance. I just worry about Bouncing Boy. When you think about it, he's really one of us in the most idealized situation--awkward, nerdy, kind-of a screw-up, who was given the ultimate opportunity to become something more, and not only did he excel, he ended up with a beautiful, passionate, and strong woman who can duplicate as much of herself as she wants. I don't know about you guys, but I call that "living the dream."

I say keep Lu as having had eyes only for Superboy and then for Chuck. Hey, Chuck was savvy enough to win Lu over, let's not tarnish that

I wouldn't mind reintroducing Laurel Gand/Andromeda as a "replacement" Supergirl. No reason why we can't have room for both Kara and Laurel. Clark and Mon coexisted for the longest time anyway... and both Laurel and Kara are great characters.

I hugely preferred Portela's art. Or Cinar's. (Or, obviously, Jiminez's!)

Scott Kolins art didn't seem quite ready for prime time...

I'm drawing a blank here--did they ever write out Laurel Gand? I mean, you would have had the Glorith retcon that took out Superboy, then the reboot, and then the Retroboot. Am I just forgetting something?

I don't think Laurel Gand ever existed in the 'classic' continuity, did she? We always had a Supergirl, in this one, even if she died and was replaced about three times since Crisis...

T share your hope but Levitz has categorically stated that the Legion has not met the Five.

On a different note, did anyone else think that Nura's dialogue looked like part of a Levirz push to get Dream Girl elected?