Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Adventure Comics #521 (Preview/Spoilers)

Uh, there was an explanation in the issue. Mon withdrew from her after his last return from the Zone. Granted, it's a shoehorned in explanation that would have been much better developed as part of an actual story arc, but I'm afraid it's the best that we're gonna' get.

And TBH: I've never disliked Mon-El, though he's never been a favorite of mine. But after hearing non-stop from certain fans about how the dude is perfection on stilts and how Shady must be WORST. HUMANOID. EVER. for not constantly hanging off his arm anymore, I kind of would like to see him go away for a long, long time. Even if it's unfair, I'm starting to associate him with certain fan attitudes that mightily tick me off. Not fun, Paul. If you had to tell this story, you could've told it much better, gotta' say...

Jumping in here, I've gotten the feeling that Paul wanted to move Mon out of the Legion book for a while. Hence the rather abrupt breakup of the relationship, the quickly developed Shady/EM romance, and Mon becoming a Green Lantern.

Which is not to say that Mon won't return (other than occasional appearances as the 31st Century GL), but it certainly does look like Mon's going to be only making guest appearances in the Legion book.

Mon's "I'm not what you think I am" at first struck me as an I'm not worthy statement, but on second reading, I thought of Eltro Gand. (Yuck.)

Or perhaps Chris Kent?

If Levitz uses Eltro, he has to use Proty and I don't think that he wants to.
Not sure though.

Chris is an interesting idea, though.
Or a merging or ?
Lar was merged with Eltro when he was out of the Zone.
What would replace him in his one body when he was IN the Zone.
Originally, he was the last entity in the Zone to be released, right?

But in the retroboot, others might have still been there.

Well, at least Mon-El doesn't cry as much as Sodam Yat. Damning with faint praise, I know but still...



(And no, I don't have anything against dudes being all emotional-like in my comics. I just don't like it when standing around crying seems to be the sum total of their character. I don't like that in female characters, either.)

Also, jumping off a little from what Doc Zero writes: Is there a genuine Green Lantern fan who can tell me whether they saw any rhyme or reason to the choosing process here?

Because to me, it all read as just random and haphazard. There was no seeming logic to Diogene going for EM or for Professor Li or to anything else that he did. Also, why couldn't Yat get up off his duff and shop around himself, instead of entrusting such an important task to an entity that wasn't even truly sentient? (Unless I misread something somewhere.) Is this how Guardians choose Lanterns in the present day, too? Yeesh.

Drawing names from a hat would have made just as much sense to me, and maybe it wouldn't have given so much padding to a subplot that didn't interest me in the first place.

1) The second emergence from the Phantom Zone by Mon-El seems to have some sort of untold tale itself. Either Mon-El was somehow changed, or replaced at that time. I, too, thought of Eltro Gand when I first read it.

2) All powerful Mon-El with GL powers was a bit of a disappointment. I would have rather seen a lesser powered individual get juiced up - say, Color Kid for example, as the Rainbow GL, or Rainbow Girl for that matter.

3) I have had the feeling since this new Legion version began that Mon-El and Starman, both who had spent considerable time in the 21st century in recent years, would remain detached from the 31st century Legion for the most part to act as a Legion 'anchor' to the rest of the DC Universe. I was convinced of this once academy student Gravity Lad showed up, him being Thom's eventual replacement. We hadn't really seen Mon-El or Starman until now. I was expecting those two to be floating around in the 21st century titles more than as active Legion members.

I think that Dyogene chose Lar because of his extra powers.
He's indicated that a particularly incredible threat is coming.
His added power seems crucial.

Imo, he went to Kirt and then Li, for the same reason.
The GL needed for the fight has to be more than a GL.

Yat is probably too old and broken for such a task.

I hope that Paul is a better writer than to just throw meaningless events into a story.
That is an absolute 'no-no' in the short story foremat and Levitz is a professional writer with a long and successful career.

I may not agree with some of his story developments, and I think his attention to detail rests with the artists a little too much, but he knows his craft.

The 21st century HAS a 'Starman', or two, already.
Is Courtney the name?
She's a major character in the Justice Society.
Thom doesn't belong there.

The 21st century also has Superman.
AND Lar has traveled through regular time, even if it WAS in the Phantom Zone.

DC may go the way you said, but I wouldn't think of it as a best option.
Most stories that I've read or seen, that involve LONG TERM time displaced characters have bad unpleasant or disasterous consequences.

Courtney's name is "Stargirl" I believe.

I agree that Thom does not belong on that team too. Thank goodness we see him return by LSH #11 (as seen on the cover where Dream Girl is carrying him over her shoulder).

Whatever they have planned for Monel it's going to be BIG, and I mean even bigger than him becoming the new 31st century Green Lantern.
I predict he gets his own monthly book soon ... I think that was the plan. Then we the fans voted Monel for Legion leader, so that threw a monkey wrench into Levitz' plans now.

Didn't TPTB have Invisible Kid step down as leader in the reboot shortly after the fans elected him? I hope they don't do that here. That was so cheap. Their excuse was his powers "weren't suitable for leading the charge" or some such nonsense. As if the nature of a person's power is what gives him/her good leadership qualities.

True.
The reboot Lyle seemed to be a born leader, to me. I'd have followed him anywhere.

Lar has already had his own book, 'Valor'.
Didn't work.
And they built him up, and the Daxamites, in the Earth War thingy.

I just think of Lar as a team player with a need for a little space, sometimes.

They, TPTB, better not pull a fast one.
Not that we can do anything about it, I guess.

Yeah, the cover of Legion #11 (Featuring Nura and Thom) was a big surprise to me. I really didn't expect to see Starman again any time soon.

It isn't that I don't like having Starman and Mon'El in the current Legion title, it just seemed to me that TPTB maybe thought these two had outgrown the Legion group somehow and were better used as support characters, such as Bouncing boy and Duplicate Damsel.

Instead, it seems like Mr. Levitz was just taking his time to getting around to these two, with what the number of other characters involved, is totally understandable.

But Star Boy had left the Legion long before Magic Wars, which is where this Legion picks up, right? Quislet and Matter Eater Lad too. I'm confused as to why Mr. Levitz seems to feel the need to bring them all back into the fold as if they were still current members.

Well, it's not really Levitz's doing so much as Johns, et al.

For that matter, Cosmic Boy, Lightning Lad, and Brainiac Five had all left the team before the Magic Wars (and Imra had left and returned).

We're in the retroboot, remember.

There is a Paul Levitz article in this week's Comic Shop News (with a picture of the cover of the upcoming Levitz/Giffen annual on the fron page) where Paul mentions that he is trying to get all the members back together, or something to that effect. He also talks about the upcoming "Big Event" that will involve the Legion and the new Green Lantern of the 31st century sometime in 2011.

So I guess Paul see this "new" retroboot Legion as maybe a restart/reset for him from a writing standpoint. I don't blame him. I trust him as a writer and with the exception of the whole Earth Man subplot I am behind him 100%. LOL

Kaaaaaaaaaaaay. I read Adventure 519-521 last night. How best to put this...?

I am very much looking forward to the Levitz/Jiminez LSH ACADEMY takeover of Adventure.

We all know Mr. Levitz can write a heck of a story, we've seen him do it. However, I've become convinced that these days he also requires an artist with the experience of a Jiminez or a Giffen (hate on Giffen all you want but I doubt anyone can honestly deny how much he contributed to Levitz' run) to tell a really really GOOD comic book story.

Watch, the Acadmey series will rock, and the Annual will be the best of the LSH series so far.

At least, I really really hope so.

Me, too, LASH.

I feel like the recent Adventure stuff was just a lost opportunity. But hopefully the newer stuff will be better.