Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Legionnaires currently in the 21st Century...lets summarize the subplot

Okay, so we know *something* is developing story-wise that has Legionnaires hiding out in the 21st Century for something important. So important that Brainy would rather have had them remain there than come back to help fight Superboy Prime and the Time Trapper. It has something to do with Superboy (Kon-El) because they must specifically be monitoring him, and I suspect Mon-El given a recent development.

Let's sum up who is where and what we know (spoilers obviously):

- Tellus hiding out in Smallville after escaping from General Lane's captivity.

- Starman was rocking out with the JSA but is now off on his own, possibly also to Smallville or something.

- Element Lad is Superboy's chemistry teacher in Smallville high.

- Possibly Dream Girl is a student at Smallville High??? Hard to say for sure but it seemed like they were heavily hinting at that.

- Sensor Girl is undercover as a science police officer working with the Guardian and was likely keeping an eye on Mon-El. She mentioned to Guardian she was recently a widow, by the way, so she's still hurting from Val's death.

Who else is supposedly missing? Did I leave anyone out that we know about so far?

Cham?

And Tyroc, Quislet, and Matter-Eater Lad, although some think Quislet's Vril Dox's ship in REBELS.

Interesting possibility with guessing Nura to be 'Lori', but I think that she's too young for the Nura from the retroLegion. Nura would be a contemporary of Jan 'the teacher', not Kon 'the student'.

I also think that Nura is in trouble, if Starman and his urgent quest for her is followed through with and the 'preview' panel at the end of Adventure #1 is accurate.
But, we'll just have to wait and see.

Lori must have SOME significance though.
They (DC) wouldn't confuse things by bringing in Legionnaires from Superman's teen years, would they?
Nawww!

Cham ~
I still think that we've sighted Cham once, as Despero with Edge, on the same page as the 'Nura held by Lane' preview.
I continue to think that because I just saw Despero killed by Starro and he was on his home planet.

Although, he could have have just flown home.
But it doesn't seem like something worth showing if there isn't going to be any further development.

But, who knows? Wires might have just gotten crossed at DC again.

Like the Officer Wilcox revelation that had no real clues until the widow comments on the page before the reveal, I suspect that any other hidden Legionnaires have had no clues shown.

Don't forget the Guardian Origins and Omens when The Guardian and Tellus were shown with a blacked out person with antennae. Cham? Drura?

Well, I'm sure we've seen Cham but I bet it'll be next to impossible to point him out until he reveals himself. For all we know he's the scarecrow in the Kent's cornfields that watches Kon walk home from school everyday. Or he's a broken down old trackter on the side of the road. I really hope when he is revealed that its awesome.

I forgot all about Tyroc. Now I want to go back and look for him.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
Okay, so we know *something* is developing story-wise that has Legionnaires hiding out in the 21st Century for something important. So important that Brainy would rather have had them remain there than come back to help fight Superboy Prime and the Time Trapper. It has something to do with Superboy (Kon-El) because they must specifically be monitoring him, and I suspect Mon-El given a recent development.

Let's sum up who is where and what we know (spoilers obviously):

- Tellus hiding out in Smallville after escaping from General Lane's captivity.
Shown to have travelled to the fortress and left Mon's temporary cure.

- Starman was rocking out with the JSA but is now off on his own, possibly also to Smallville or something. Claims to be carrying out the last wishes of R.J. Brande, mentions an Operation:Spin the Bottle, hinting an involvement with Kandor denizens on New Krypton.

-Element Lad is Superboy's chemistry teacher in Smallville high.

- Possibly Dream Girl is a student at Smallville High??? Hard to say for sure but it seemed like they were heavily hinting at that. Shown as a prisoner somewhere, as Thom is worried about her, doubt she is undercover as Lori. More likely being held by Project 7734 or New Krypton.

- Sensor Girl is undercover as a science police officer working with the Guardian and was likely keeping an eye on Mon-El. She mentioned to Guardian she was recently a widow, by the way, so she's still hurting from Val's death.

-Cham Could be anywhere, may not know of father's death

-Tyroc Probably still on Marzal.

-Quislet Perhaps went home to Teall, no evidence of even being in 21st Century

-Matter-Eater Lad ?

Brainiac had bottle cities from Tharr, Braal and Winath. what's the betting the Legion have to re-populate these planets?

Mon-El will probably get tasked to do that, as a sort of sideways nod to Valor.

Grr. I remember reading that not only was Winath an earth colony, but that the Ranzzes were descended from some common earth-name! Now they are all just aliens-that-look-human-for-no-damn-reason. I hate that.

Current thought is Mitch the restaurant owner in Superman, one of Mon's circle of friends.

Where did this occur?

Ooh, good call BB on the potential cover for Tenz!

By "current thought" I meant thought in general. Not sure it was my "call."

When the topic of who's in the 21 century first came up, someone proposed Mitch being Cham (as I recall), but then I put the cooking angle together and thought, "ME Lad." (sorry, just read the "unnessary quotations marks" thread.) (now I think we need an "unnessarry parenthetical" thread.)

I've since seen the idea other placed, so can't say it was mine originally.

Could be a red herring. Or a strawman. Something else else edible.

Where did this occur? [/QB][/QUOTE]

In his conversation with Tellus

That's probably right on!

Was the 'cook' Tenzil with the SW6ers?
I know he was with the reboot.
(He was a lawyer during 3boot.)

But, I guess the retroTenzil can be a cook, too, if he wants.
I know I'd go into espionage and hide a thousand years in the past, rather than go into politics, anywhere in the universe!

Yeah, I hate it, too.
I thought that the Dominator's human experiment solution/Valor seeding was an elegant solution.
Well, the first time anyway.

I WAS hoping that New Krypton would have the mission for the next 1000 years or so.

It's always been too big of a mission for one person, really.

The Invasion/Valor/taking lots of differing people to prospective planets and helping them establish colonies concept was tooo big for one person and so the let's get rid of New Krypton solution sounds neat.

But giving that each of the colonies now comes pre-packaged and gift wrapped, establishing them back on their worlds shouldn't be difficult.

Of course it doesn't explain the parallel evolution (plus the blatantly racist lack of anything but caucasions on these planets) and the ability of these species to inter mate. The Earth colonies was much more plausable.

Presumably most of these plotlines will be wrapped up by Robinson and Gates in the issues between #7 and the Annual, leaving Levitz with a fresh starting point...

Sarcasm Kid:

Why would anyone think that? For one thing, against that notion is the fact that the objects Quislet inhabits disintegrate pretty quickly.

Mitch, the flirty restaurant guy, HAS to be Matter-Eater Lad!!

I agree, lil'rhino!


The other bottle cities' planets may not exist anymore.
I don't know that many planets could endure the kind of geological uphevel that would happen with a large chunk of a planet removed (depending on the size of the city that Brainiac took.)

I also think that like Kandor, the inhabitants might have suffered extreme traumas that would alter how the react to being enlarged again.

As for the races and the interbreeding:
1. we may see more racial diversity now
2. Brainiac may be shown to have interacted with the various populations to allow some to intermix for DNA health.
Some may be too different and not be able to intermix.

Especially if DC goes with galactic seeding, like Star Trek did or directed evolution which might group a number of planets with similarities.

There's also the idea of much earlier human abduction and colonization, already shown in the DCU with Krypton (Daxam) and Earth (Starhaven).

While I'm not keen on the idea of these Legion Worlds being eradicated for a throwaway line, it might be an interesting turn for Brainiac to be taking cities from planets that were doomed for completely other reasons, to preserve their knowledge for his own purposes. Using his own insane intellect, he can calculate the odds of a world surviving, and if it's going to vanish in the next few centuries, he can just arrange for it's best and brightest minds to meet for a scientific conference in a city of his choice with some fake communications, and then snatch the entire city.

Quick thought: is it possible that the details of the "current" Legion differ from the original Legion due to things that happened in the 21st century, possibly caused by the LSV Espionage Squad, and the Legion's squad is back there trying to straighten them out? Maybe once the storyline plays out, we'll be back where we think we should be?

You see, the first and worst thing that has changed is the White Witch. This happend not for character development only, as I think. They have plans with here. So, with the White Witch turned black we will not go back to normal. (We should be worried, because in this continuity the Magic Wars didn't happen already. And now she is replacing Mordru, oh my dear!)
My best guess is, the LVS-squad is going back to change history, so this time they will win the encounter with the LSH in the 31th century. We should read the trade paper again to notice, what important role Clark or Connor will play (but I say we can concentrate on Connor, because both Squads are in Adventure), that the LSV-squad has to interfere in our time. Their plan may be: Let Superboy loose the coming encounter with Brainiac or new Krypton or whatever is planned for 2010, and the future will have better chances for the LSV. Thats my idea, why they are here. And our hero squad is in our time to make sure, all the circumstances will occure. But to make things worse: Maybe they have to make sure that Superboy is loosing, that would be tragic. You all remember the end of the Great Darkness Saga? Darkseid lost but he got the twin who later became Validus. Maybe DC has plans like this for Superboy in the comming encounter.

Greatings from Germany,
Casaloki

The LSV 'espionage squad' might be adding their own little tweak to the chrysalis, so that Conner ends up not being the only thing to come forth. Thirty minutes after Conner appears, the battle has moved on, and a member of the LSV sneaks back to secure the little bun in the oven that they've had growing.

Alternately, they tainted the chrysalis, so that Conner feels fine now, but is growing increasingly messed up by the taint (perhaps his Luthor obsession is tied into this!).

Or, and I've just hurt myself thinking of this, so I've got to type it fast before the rest of my brain leaks out my ear, perhaps they went back to make some changes that represent the Legion continuity we grew up with, such as a 31st century with no Amazons, no Atlanteans, etc. The LSV set the seeds for the destruction of Atlantis, Themiscrya, etc. and when the LSH go back and undo their damage, they come back to a future that is unlike anything we've seen before. 'Cause that's what we need, *another reboot!* I'm going to crawl off in search of my brain now.

Who are the leaders of the LSV?

Do they have any huge thinkers/plotters?
Would this boot's future villians think that Konner was their greatest concern?

This is all going to come to a head in the Superman books, they say, so I'd think it's most probably going to center around Mon-El, General Lane, the Science Police, Luthor (and his whatever in the tube that he got in his escape), Brainiac, the bottled cities and New Krypton.
Lar is joining the JLA, so they'll most likely be involved, too.

I hope the LSV's is going to be a part of THAT story, which is very complicated already.
I hope it's not about another 'bun in the over' or the destruction of the Amazons or Atlantis.
LOL!

But we'll never know for sure until it happens, so go find that amazing brain, Set!


By the way, I saw an assistant of Lane's in this last Superman.
She looked a LOT like Esper Lass, to me!

LOL

I was presuming that the person/thing in the tube of Luthors is, to tie in with what Superman did what Luthor did thing, another clone but with Doomsday DNA instead of Kal Els