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Maybe this *is* the WaK Legion, but it all takes place before Legion of Super-Heroes #1?? The team was already formed when the title started. Maybe the Starboy we know took on the other Starboy's name after he disappeared (are they both named Thom Kallor? Then he second one could be Thom Jr...) , Dawnstar used to be a member and KK used to wear that outfit and had a jaunt in the 31st century. Maybe this team's original inspiration is the JSA?

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Can anybody tell me in which exact issues the appearances of Dawny, Dreamy and Star Boy (not Stary) took place? I managed to get JSA ##3-4 via Ebay and the newer issues via my regular shop - what else do I have to get for my AR collection smile ?

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Dawnstar's arm was in #1. Starman has been in all the issues so far, and I believe he's said or done something Legion-related in all of them except maybe one (and that one is #3 or #4). Dream Girl was in #4, I think.

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Maybe this *is* the WaK Legion, but it all takes place before Legion of Super-Heroes #1?? The team was already formed when the title started. Maybe the Starboy we know took on the other Starboy's name after he disappeared (are they both named Thom Kallor? Then he second one could be Thom Jr...) , Dawnstar used to be a member and KK used to wear that outfit and had a jaunt in the 31st century. Maybe this team's original inspiration is the JSA?
I doubt it. There are just too many things that'd have to be explained away. First of all, both Star Boys are named Thom Kallor, but they don't resemble each other. Dream Girl and Dawnstar (and Karate Kid) all look like their Levitz-era versions, and not like the threeboot-era versions. Starman made references to Color Kid and Kenz Nuhor. It's just too much.

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You can see where most of the images in this thread come from by their names.

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I can't see how this JLA/JSA/Legion crossover is anything but a plan to re-reboot the Legion back to a Levitz era time. It's why I have pretty much lost interest in the current SG & Legion storyline. Just as Gail Simone's four parter at the end of DnA (which I really enjoyed) was rendered insignificant by the Waid reboot, the next final issues of the current Legion will be of no consequence in the next DC/Legion order.

I believe DC has just given up on any strict continuity of stories and characters over a long period of time. While they are indeed reviving elements from stories past (Silver Age gems), they are focused on making quality stories for the here and now, and reviving characters from the dead, contradicting relationships and general histories are secondary to this end (too much work for the editors and writers to keep straight).

Apparently, we readers respond best to the "quick-hitter" stories. It doesn't matter whether five or ten years ago Jeckie was dating T-Wolf or Karate Kid, or whether Karate Kid died or not, or if Jeckie was born a human or snake, or if she became Sensor Girl or not, etc. The writers have license to pick up wherever they deem necessary to sell a comic.

This can make for some good story telling for readers who take it day by day, but could be irritating/confusing for consistency buffs.


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No I don't think so... but we will see what happens in Action 850 and WWIII

I think this will be like the difference between supergirl and powergirl. Not a replacement, but a different flavor. But we will have to see.

I'm also going to say that while the stuff right after the crisis on infinite earths was great the amount of time spent trying to make everything make sense really messed things up a bit. I'm hoping the High collared Karate Kid costume and the statues in the action annual are a sign we are getting the uncorrupted legion. My only real question then would be... do they remember supergirl?

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I believe DC has just given up on any strict continuity of stories and characters over a long period of time. While they are indeed reviving elements from stories past (Silver Age gems), they are focused on making quality stories for the here and now, and reviving characters from the dead, contradicting relationships and general histories are secondary to this end (too much work for the editors and writers to keep straight).

Apparently, we readers respond best to the "quick-hitter" stories. It doesn't matter whether five or ten years ago Jeckie was dating T-Wolf or Karate Kid, or whether Karate Kid died or not, or if Jeckie was born a human or snake, or if she became Sensor Girl or not, etc. The writers have license to pick up wherever they deem necessary to sell a comic.

This can make for some good story telling for readers who take it day by day, but could be irritating/confusing for consistency buffs.
If they would say that that's what they were doing, I'd be okay with it. As long as they're letting us believe that there's a larger frame of continuity, though, it's hard not to try to make everything fit into that.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned:

Green Lantern 15: the Faceless Hunters from Saturn have "combined mind-powers stolen from the moon of Titan"

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Notice Dawny in the background, probably to the next JSA cover...
I dunno...I think it's Hawkman's wing, but...it's obvious we're missing a third person in JLA #9's cover.

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Shrinking Violet would hang in good with that group (a la Atom). Maybe she is on the cover, smallish.

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Okay, I just took a quick read through JLA #8.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">There are seven Legionnaires scattered around the 21st century; Starman and Karate Kid and five others. Of the five others, one's obviously Dream Girl in Arkham, and one's gotta be Dawnstar on Thanagar.

Batman and Black Lightning have to subdue Karate Kid, who still thinks he's Trident, on and off. Because there's a JLA/JSA reunion going on they're able to compare notes with Mr. Terrific, who hooks them up with Starman. Starman restores Val's memory completely by saying 'Lightning Lad' to him in Interlac. 'Lightning Lad', again in Interlac, is the title of the issue, so there must be something up with that.

Then they use Val's flight ring to trace what other flight rings are around, to find the other Legionnaires Val and Thom say are there. Here's the intriguing part: In addition to these seven flight rings, Superman has two of his own, there's also Booster Gold's one, Supergirl has one, and Vril Dox has one.

No word on why the Legionnaires are there, or why they're exactly where they are.

At the end of the issue the JLA and JSA split into five teams to go look for the other Legionnaires.</span></span>

Oh, and I also got Brave and Bold #3, with Batman and Blue Beetle against the Fatal Five. Much less interesting: <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Basically, the Time Lord wants the supersonic framistat that Batman and Blue Beetle are trying to get, so he summons the Five from the future to be his muscle. If there's more to it than that, I missed it.</span></span>

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Took another pass through JLA #8, and have more details:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">A couple of guys show up in a hospital in 1948 to take a dying Dolores Winter (aka the Ultra-Humanite) to the future. No idea who they are. I get a Brainy vibe off one of them but realistically I think they're villains.

The Fortress of Solitude computer has Karate Kid listed as a level-15 fighter, and Batman's only level 12.</span></span>

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Here's the link in Gym'll's discussing this topic too:
JLA/JSA/LSH Crossove

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#619125 04/18/07 08:59 PM
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From Dan Didio at Newsarama , about Countdown.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">“Oh, and the storyline that spins from the JLA/JSA crossover, which features members of the Legion of Super-Heroes touches on Countdown as well, and what you’ll find out is that Karate Kid was left in the past – in our time, hopefully to unravel what’s going on the DC Universe. He’s left behind for a purpose. It wasn’t his choice. He was left."</span></span>

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I'll give it a day or two before I post scans.

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#619127 04/19/07 01:15 AM
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Better check out Brave & the Bold #5

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Between the Levitz LSH'ers appearing in the JLA?JSA/LSH crossover and now the WaK LSH'ers in B&B, Didio's comments about KK in a recent 'Rama article, it appears there's a strong LSH push coming our way.


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Between the Levitz LSH'ers appearing in the JLA?JSA/LSH crossover and now the WaK LSH'ers in B&B, Didio's comments about KK in a recent 'Rama article, it appears there's a strong LSH push coming our way.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that 10 months from now are the April 2008 issues, the month when the Legion hits its 50th anniversary?

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Oh, and I also got Brave and Bold #3, with Batman and Blue Beetle against the Fatal Five.
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Oh, and I also got Brave and Bold #3, with Batman and Blue Beetle against the Fatal Five.
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The Composite Batman?

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wow nobody mentioned Wildfire?

Hint: that is.....according to DC Nation, Dan DiDio said that there is a legionnaire who is a "second soldier" ready to make an appearance in the JSA. wink

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#619134 04/25/07 12:28 PM
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superboymddjr, i don't get the "second soldier" thing?

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i think it has to do something indirectly with 7 Soldiers of Victory way back in JLA/JSA/7SSV crossover way back in JLA #100-102 (or #107/108?) and there are some similiarities between the Law Legionnaires and the Legionnaires that they were "lost" in time/space, So henceforth, that was Dan who commented that we will see the 2nd "soldier" in the book of JSA (which turns out to be a certain cocky attitude member we came to love). First soldier is Karate Kid, now who are 5 left? I am not sure if Star Boy, Dream Girl, and others are considered as Soldiers...??? Beats me why they called 2nd soldier instead of 4th soldier.

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btw, GL Corps #8 Darkseid shows up against the "Dominator" (a genetic enhanced...dominiator).

Darkseid is upset and says the Dominator is going to mess up his careful machinations. hmm?

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