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I'm not sure how Superboy can gradually leave. He's either there or not.

I hope that once the Legion becomes the main feature/only feature that the #1/2/3 numbering is dropped and the ongoing series is #509 onwards.


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I wonder if Adventure is still going to have a backup story. If so, maybe Superboy II is a good candidate to fill that slot. I mean, he's not my favourite character but I certainly don't begrudge him or his fans a regular showcase for him.

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I wonder if Adventure is still going to have a backup story. If so, maybe Superboy II is a good candidate to fill that slot. I mean, he's not my favourite character but I certainly don't begrudge him or his fans a regular showcase for him.
while it would be a great idea to team them up with someone like aquaman following Blackest Night I would prefer a 'tales of the legion of super-heroes' back up to iron out some continuity issues.

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I'm thrilled that the Legion are taking over Adventure Comics!!

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I would prefer a 'tales of the legion of super-heroes' back up to iron out some continuity issues.
I, for one, don't care if I never see another story written to iron out a continuity issue.

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I wonder if Adventure is still going to have a backup story. If so, maybe Superboy II is a good candidate to fill that slot. I mean, he's not my favourite character but I certainly don't begrudge him or his fans a regular showcase for him.
My guess from the interview? Didio will drop Conner and he will move to Titans. It's pretty clear Superboy is not going to stick there. At the same time, he ALSO mentions other space teams (with Animal Man) and THAT may say a bit about the direction of Adventure Comics: a more space-oriented book. I am glad if that happens.

And I wouldn't completely blame Dan DiDio on this: it's pretty clear that Johns is gradually gettting more work from the entertainment side of Warner and that means less time to write comic books. He has quit Superman books, he left Booster, and will pretty much stay with GL, Flash and one crossover here and there.

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Paul Levitz is the definitive Legion scripter, however, his (self-professed) greatest weakness--inventing original adversaries for the Legion to battle--is something ADVENTURE COMICS will desperately need in the near future...


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I don't know.

There are so many 'old' villians running around that we haven't seen in a long time, maybe he doesn't need to be too inventive.


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The Mysa/Mordru story, the Fatal Five (originals back Yay!), Universo and the LSV without Prime would keep us going for a fair few issues and for new(ish) readers would be new and exciting. But some original bad guys are needed in the long run.

I wouldn't be too upset if a Tamaranian or Thanagarian for example showed up, and the status of Daxam needs exploring.


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Oh come on, where is Dr. Morlo? Such untapped potential... How about the Brain-Globes? I bet the ALL-NEW KILLING-MACHINE Brain-Globes of Rambat would double sales of Adventure Comics.

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No, I'm with Korbal. Let's see something new!

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I think I'd love it if Aquaman got the second feature spot in this title!

1. Because Aquaman's time in the original Adventure Comics is one of my favourite comic runs of any character ever!

2. Because the DCU NEEDS Aquaman to come back and since he might not be able to support his own ongoing just yet a back-up role might be good for him.

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3. Between the rabid Aquaman fans and the rabid Legion fans this book could become a force to reckon with!

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No, I'm with [b]Korbal. Let's see something new! [/b]
Well, Shooter tried that... and people seeemed to prefer that Superboy hack from Johns.
Me? Shooter's, anytime.

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I don't know. I used to want things COMPLETELY new, but I now tend to worry that without some Legion connection they feel grafted on, artificial, competing with the Legion for incredibly scarce panels. I guess I might advocate new villains/adversaries that help illuminate the Legion characters themselves. For example, space pirates & Element Lad, gangs/organized Crime and Ultra Boy, sports corruption and Cosmic Boy, a corrupt/failing monarch and Projectra, etc.


...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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To Director Lad: Supergirl is outselling Wonder Woman currently. If they cancel her and Keep wondie going I will cause hell. DC's character favouritism with the trinity rubs me the wrong way as it is but hell hath no fury like a supergirl fan scorned. (of course by supergirl I mean Kara Zor-El but I don't acknowledge the numerous subsequent imposters)
Actually, I was making a joke based on the fact that Supergirl replaced the Legion in Adventure after their original run ended.

Just as a side note, DC will always have a Wonder Woman book in publication. If they don't keep a WW title on the stands, the rights to the character revert to the creator's family. After thre Superboy debacle, I think they'll be extra cautious about that in the future.

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[b] No, I'm with [b]Korbal. Let's see something new! [/b]
Well, Shooter tried that... and people seeemed to prefer that Superboy hack from Johns.
Me? Shooter's, anytime.[/b]
I liked the new aspects of what Shooter was doing. However, I didn't like the dialogue, many of the characterizations, the extended storyline...

doublechinner: Well, there'll be a Legion connection if they appear in a Legion story, won't there?

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If Paul has an interesting story to tell about an existing villain then, why not? In fact, many Legion Villains haven't been used in a long time. I'd like to see them again as much as I'd like to read about the Pre-Crisis Legionnaires.

The distinction for me is for the story to build upon the existing stories. No reboots or re-imaginings of which Johns "Pre-Crisis" Legion has been nothing but. Tell me a story that doesn't contradict what's already established (you don't even have to reference anything), just keep the momentum going.

The Miracle Machine's return in FINAL CRISIS didn't work because it was presented as something new and never before seen. It could have and should have been a continuation of it's story. Same goes for everything else.

We've been inundated with "NEW!" that's really "RE-IMAGED!" Let's see new that's really new AND let's see new stories about what already exists...Legionnaires, Villains, Worlds, etc.

And pick a demarcation line and go from there. Don't contradict (unless there is an actual story behind the change and not the whim or laziness of the writer) and move forward.

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I don't know.

There are so many 'old' villians running around that we haven't seen in a long time, maybe he doesn't need to be too inventive.
Agreed... Exhibit A: Absorbancy Boy as Earth Man. Abs. Boy had immense potential as a powers-absorber, Johns realized that and ran with it.


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Yes, I don't mind 'reimaginings'.
They could also be called 'updatings'.

Science, especially, has come so far in the last 50 years that concepts for heroes and villians that happened in the 60's and 70's are kind of lame by today's standards and rethought possibilities.

But, I also agree with Nightcrawler, connect, say, Absorbancy Boy to Earth Man (which isn't that much of an improvement in name, really.)
The one grew into the other.

The Taurus Gang maybe a little silly if you lift them directly from the past, as is, but if you think of them as naturally progressing to become something more in tune with today's grasp of powers and possibilities, they could be great.


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If Paul has an interesting story to tell about an existing villain then, why not? In fact, many Legion Villains haven't been used in a long time. I'd like to see them again as much as I'd like to read about the Pre-Crisis Legionnaires.

The distinction for me is for the story to build upon the existing stories. No reboots or re-imaginings of which Johns "Pre-Crisis" Legion has been nothing but. Tell me a story that doesn't contradict what's already established (you don't even have to reference anything), just keep the momentum going.

The Miracle Machine's return in FINAL CRISIS didn't work because it was presented as something new and never before seen. It could have and should have been a continuation of it's story. Same goes for everything else.

We've been inundated with "NEW!" that's really "RE-IMAGED!" Let's see new that's really new AND let's see new stories about what already exists...Legionnaires, Villains, Worlds, etc.

And pick a demarcation line and go from there. Don't contradict (unless there is an actual story behind the change and not the whim or laziness of the writer) and move forward.
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Has Final Crisis really happened, or was it just a dream Pamela Ewing had just after she dreamt that Bobby was dead? Uhm...

... okay as for old villains reimagined, I'm still waiting for a Doctor Mayavale story done right! The first important task would be to get a decent artist this time who would do the bondage scenes right wink

Maybe he could team up with Grimbor?

Don't blame me for letting my mind go astray, at least this idea would be more original than the umteenth battle with Mordru... smile

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Don't blame me for letting my mind go astray, at least this idea would be more original than the umteenth battle with Mordru... smile
I kind of liked that Mordru was redeemed back in the day, restored to a kind of child-like innocence. It seemed like real character development (along with the developments with Mekt), and Johns pretty much destroyed it for the sake of giving them cameos as part of his Legion of Prime Worshippers.


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That's a long time ago... was it after Giffen left 5YL?

I personally liked the redemption of Lightning Lord. Him being a friend in 5YL was kinda nice to see - of course, Johns undid that one as well, though he was not the first - in the end, it was Waid and his henchmen who undid all those character developments with Zero Hour...

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That's a long time ago... was it after Giffen left 5YL?

I personally liked the redemption of Lightning Lord. Him being a friend in 5YL was kinda nice to see - of course, Johns undid that one as well, though he was not the first - in the end, it was Waid and his henchmen who undid all those character developments with Zero Hour...
He was wiped in pre-Zero Hour Legion, indeed. And DC is to blame for reboot, not necessarily Waid.

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I saw part of a show about comics on the History channel this week.

I saw Paul Levitz for a few seconds.

He doesn't look anything like I imagined!
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