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Re: Subplots from the original Levitz-era that need to be addressed in this legion.
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I agree with you Ricardo.
I always felt Supergirl in the Legion was redundant, and always not as effective a plot device as using Superboy/man was to the stories over the years (ie: time travel).

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Supergirl hardly ever appeared with the Legion at all. "Supergirl and the Legion" in the Threeboot basically doubled Supergirl's entire set of Legion appearances all the way back to when she joined.

Anyway, the current continuiity pretty much rules out having Supergirl in the Legion. Supergirl is teenage and the Legion isn't, so the current Supergirl timeline is many years behind the current Legion timeline. This means she can't appear with the main Legion unless it's some kind of meeting from different times like in Supergirl #52. (Though Adventure Comics is possible, since that comic is mostly flashbacks.)

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The Supergirl Annual is supposed to deal with her "other" appearances...from what I understand.


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I always loved the Levitz storyline of Mon-El addressing being trapped in the phantom zone for 1000 years. But then he got over it in one issue. Seems like a story that could have been an interesting arc.
The recent New Krypton storyline addressed a little of Mon-El's Phantom Zone storyline and aftermath.
For one, previously he was just placed in the Zone with a promise, unfulfilled, that Superman would find a cure and release him.
This boot, he was given hope to sustain him through that time, that he would eventually be released and have a good life with the LSH.

2. For the moment, he has Chris with him, so he's not alone against Zod and company.
(On the down side of that, he's Zod's enemy now, where as before, he was just Zod's enemy because he had known Superboy and Zod's a psycho.
But, still, it's a different kind of interaction than before.)

3. The Phantom Zone itself, seems to be a place, rather than just a 'floating in space' kind of thing.
It would be hard to be so isolated and unaging, but at least there's reference points, places to stand and places to sleep, etc..

4. Lar had had more people in his life this time, not just Kal and the Kents mostly.

All of those things, whether Paul uses them to affect Mon's character and experience in the Zone, are differences that SHOULD have sustained him more and contributed to a more healthy out look for him in the retroboot, I think.

There's also his child, that he may know about and it's descendants and the blonde Daxamite that he rescued shortly before he entered the Zone.

This is a very different Lar and I'd love to see Levitz address these new events in his life.

There isn't really anything from prior to the Magic War that I need to have resolved.
I WOULD like to see a memorial to Pol somewhere, if he died in that war.


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It would be nice if the reason Mon and Shady broke up is because he has just discovered a descendant of the child he had with Billie Harper (who we will cal Laurel for sake of continuity) living on Daxam; which explains why he is spending his time on there as opposed to out in space where he usually goes when he needs to mope.

Shady may have taken this news badly for some reason which caused them to break up and potentially send her into the arms of Earth Man in a way to get back at Mon by buddying up with the person who put him back in to the Phantom Zone.

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It would be nice if the reason Mon and Shady broke up is because he has just discovered a descendant of the child he had with Billie Harper (who we will cal Laurel for sake of continuity) living on Daxam; which explains why he is spending his time on there as opposed to out in space where he usually goes when he needs to mope.

Shady may have taken this news badly for some reason which caused them to break up and potentially send her into the arms of Earth Man in a way to get back at Mon by buddying up with the person who put him back in to the Phantom Zone.
Good point, Stu. Shady's real problem might be 1,000 years of unpaid child support.

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It would be nice if the reason Mon and Shady broke up is because he has just discovered a descendant of the child he had with Billie Harper (who we will cal Laurel for sake of continuity) living on Daxam;
It's been a thousand years. Unless half, quarter, etc. Daxamites age ridiculously slow, and swear vows of celibacy, there's very likely to be *thousands* of Mon-El descendents by the time the 31st century rolls around.

At ~2 children per generation and 3-ish generations per century (both conservative figures, the actual numbers are 2.3 children and 3.3-4 generations / century for Americans, who themselves breed conservatively and sire late compared to some other cultures), Mon-El would likely have 4 descendents by 2110, 32 descendents by 2210, 256 by 2310, 2048 by 2410, 16,384 by 2510, etc. If the Harper/Gand clan reproduces like Americans, people who have some genetic connection to Mon-El's child with Billie Harper could number 500 *million* strong.

Similarly, if Kal, Kara, Conner, etc. every do get around to breeding, there might not just be a 'Laurel Kent' out there, there might be entire colony worlds settled by the spawn of the House of El (and they might have little if any superhuman power, due to whatever Kryptonian DNA they have being watered down by as much as 30 or 40 generations worth of human DNA).

Such descendents might end up with 'superpowers' so slight as to be barely worth the name, such as greatx30 grand-daughter of Clark and Lois, Sunlight Lass. "I get a little bit stronger when I'm standing in direct sunlight, and I don't get tired as much or have to eat much during the day!"


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Re: Subplots from the original Levitz-era that need to be addressed in this legion.
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That's good!

But other factors might include:

Billie Harper is on Earth so their child may never get to Daxam.

It he/she does, other things may contribute to far less progeny.
1. on Daxam, they have no special powers
2. mortality rates might be very high or even just 'regularly' high (infant deaths, wars, famines, diseases, invasions, crime, etc.)
3. the Gand line continues to seek space exploration, which might result in persecution and just leaving the planet.

As to the powers themselves, they may not 'dilute' or even combine with other powers, which may be why Shady had to go somewhere else.
If Lar's power genes are dominant, every descendant would have them.

We know that Talokians can't be cloned, and that may interfer with child creation, too.

Other than fellow Talokians, including all the planets in the system, Tasmia may have found that most humanoids are incompatable with her genes.

We also know that Talok, like Colu and Durla, are not originally from Earth, at least not in their historical knowledge, which lends the incompatability issues, credence.

Lar, and Kal, both with Kryptonian genetics originally, are compatable with humans.

But we also have around 7000 secret Kandorians living on Earth in the 21st century.
If DC PTB allow that to continue, we might find the 31st century has a number of Earthers with elevated power levels.
Even if Kryptonian powers CAN be diluted.
And we don't know the Daxamite powers can.

Anyway, interesting to think about.


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Billie Harper is on Earth so their child may never get to Daxam.
Indeed, it seems unlikely that the a Harper/Gand clan would get to Daxam (barring a deliberate search for the homeworld of their long-lost Daxamite 'founder,' and a less-than-chilly reaction from the full-blooded Daxamite populace, who have been porrtrayed as anywhere from isolationistic to xenophobic in previous 'boots...).

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It he/she does, other things may contribute to far less progeny.
1. on Daxam, they have no special powers
2. mortality rates might be very high or even just 'regularly' high (infant deaths, wars, famines, diseases, invasions, crime, etc.)
Oh heck, it's all theoretical. Billie Harper might have gotten pregnant by someone other than Mon-El, or her baby might not have come to term, or little Mon-El Harper might have been born with no powers and been hit by a bus at the age of six.

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We know that Talokians can't be cloned, and that may interfer with child creation, too.
That I did not know, but, as Shady's ancestor was cloned by Darkseid (as was Superman), I suspect that 'can't be cloned' might either be some REBELS continuity that never made it into the 30th century Talokkians, or that Darkseid doesn't play by the same rules as other would-be cloners. smile

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But we also have around 7000 secret Kandorians living on Earth in the 21st century.
If DC PTB allow that to continue, we might find the 31st century has a number of Earthers with elevated power levels.
I'm pretty sure they were all killed already. Moved to another planet, but that wasn't enough, so they were terror-attacked until manipulated into a retaliatory war with Earth and then killed 'in self-defense.'

Pretty lousy storytelling from any perspective, but it's not like one can start a big crossover with the ad copy, "This sweeping crossover event changes <strike>everything!</strike> nothing! After this shocking conclusion, the Man of Steel, and the world he lives in, will <strike>never</strike> always be the same!"


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