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Re: Comics Buyer Guide Interview: Legion of Three Worlds is Not in Continuity!
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Originally posted by Blacula: As far as I'm concerned, Legion of Three Worlds did happen until I see something in the book that directly contradicts it. Plus, he doesn't give a concrete "no", just a "not necessarily".
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Re: Comics Buyer Guide Interview: Legion of Three Worlds is Not in Continuity!
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I oppose picking and choosing while at the same time marketing a series on the nostalgia factor of "OMG! It's the original team that I grew up with! All those stories from my childhood are back in continuity!"
Personally, I would preferred they just said, "Hey, we've fucked up the Legion pretty badly these past twenty years. Sorry. We're just going to give the title to Paul Levitz, let him do an "All-Star Legion" with the continuity being whatever the hell he wants, and, uh, hope you guys like it."
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Lu is still Dou Damsel (if that even) and she and Chuck never rejoined the LSH. Tenzil did not rejoin the LSH. *sigh* What a disappointing mess.... Well, I'll remain verrrrrry cautiously optimistic still.
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Re: Comics Buyer Guide Interview: Legion of Three Worlds is Not in Continuity!
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Well, he kept Tyroc, so maybe there's hope for others.
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Well, I do have to admit I admire Levitz for FINALLY making metaphorical lemonade out of Tyroc's metaphorical lemons, but.... everyone HATES Lu, Chuck and Tenzil!
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[snip] Originally posted by MLLASH: ...everyone HATES Lu, Chuck and Tenzil! We do? News to me.
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Re: Comics Buyer Guide Interview: Legion of Three Worlds is Not in Continuity!
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So, Paul says only the first two Johns stories will count. That means Lightning Saga and Action, right? What about Secret Origins? It isn't even finished yet? It doesn't count? The Adventure back up series doesn't count? But, the new series picks up the Mekt twin subplot form that series? So he's picking up subplots and characters from stories that don't "count"? I'm confused.
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Robert Kane, Marion, Iowa - "I like Matter-Eater Lad better than any other Legionnaire. I know he has a relatively minor super-power, which he can't use in a fight (unless he's going to chew the guy's arm off), so he has to rely on a weapon. I'd like to see him featured more prominently in your stories."
I bet Robert Kane of Marion, IA, is pretty upset!
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I have to admit, this news has unnerved me. I'm not usually so slavish to continuity, but C'MON!!!
I agree with EDE... just ADMIT you Effed the LSH up for the past 20-odd years and have decided to let Levitz do what he wants.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Robert Kane, Marion, Iowa - "I like Matter-Eater Lad better than any other Legionnaire. I know he has a relatively minor super-power, which he can't use in a fight (unless he's going to chew the guy's arm off), so he has to rely on a weapon. I'd like to see him featured more prominently in your stories."
I bet Robert Kane of Marion, IA, is pretty upset!In case anyone didn't already know: EDE is metaphorically awesome!!
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Originally posted by Jerry: So, Paul says only the first two Johns stories will count. That means Lightning Saga and Action, right? What about Secret Origins? It isn't even finished yet? It doesn't count? The Adventure back up series doesn't count? But, the new series picks up the Mekt twin subplot form that series? So he's picking up subplots and characters from stories that don't "count"? I'm confused. In context he seems to be talking about whole runs. So I think what he's saying is that out of the stories central to the modern Legion, only two out of three count. I don't think he's saying that Adventure Comics and Supergirl don't count, even though his words do literally read that way. And he's obviously still using large chunks of Legion of Three Worlds. For all we know the interview was done long ago and he's changed his mind. Alternatively, when he said they may never be mentioned again he's serious. It used to be that embarrassing story moments were dealt with by never mentioning them again rather than erasing history. I can certainly think of things in Legion of Three Worlds that I would want never mentioned again. The whole idea of using Superboy-Prime to attack the fans is one I'd rather see forgotten (and besides, it doesn't make sense for several reasons, including comic book time--now that it's 2010, the stories showing him doing bad things would have to have been published before he came over and did them.)
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Originally posted by Jerry: So, Paul says only the first two Johns stories will count. That means Lightning Saga and Action, right? Not necessarily. It could mean the playing out of plotlines that stretched from Justice League to War of the Supermen. Again, I'm not worried about any of this. Levitz's version will unfold as it will; likely from the starting point of Johns' bible.
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I always assumed that the "chronicler's error" comment in #1 referred as much to recent stories as to anything else. I guess the odd part of this is singling out LO3W as being treated any differently from anything else.
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Given all the temporal shenanigans that were going on in that last issue of Lo3W, Paul's got amazing freedom to use that as justification for something that occured either earlier in that story, or in the Action/Lightning Saga, to be 'retconned' into a more palatable shape for whatever plans he's got under the hood.
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Does anybody have the issue # of Comics Buyer's Guide with the Levitz interview.
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Yes I do have the printed version here - haven't read it yet, though. What do you want to know?
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Originally posted by cleome: [snip]
Originally posted by MLLASH: [b] ...everyone HATES Lu, Chuck and Tenzil! We do?
News to me. [/b]Me too.... I like all three of them actually. Always have.
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Originally posted by Chemical King: Yes I do have the printed version here - haven't read it yet, though. What do you want to know? I was thinking about buying the issue,but I couldn't find it without a #, and is the Legion on the cover.
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It does have a Legion cover by the current Legion artist. The number is #1668.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
Personally, I would preferred they just said, "Hey, we've fucked up the Legion pretty badly these past twenty years. Sorry. We're just going to give the title to Paul Levitz, let him do an "All-Star Legion" with the continuity being whatever the hell he wants, and, uh, hope you guys like it." I would love to have seen that solicit!
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<Snip> Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
"'Not necessarily', Levitz said. 'Or at least they may never be mentioned again. Only time will tell.'" My gut check on this is that he just will never mention The S-Prime/Trapper thing again. Not dwell on the fact that there are two other Legions out there...possibly never mention them again in continuity (at least while he's writing)). Again just my feeling on this. I think it's obvious that the overall arc of the story happened...he's just not feeling salvish to every detail.
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I found a picture of CBG #1668. I really should get a subsciption to this mag, as my CBS does not carry it, and $24.95 is a very good price. http://www.cbgxtra.com/
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I agree with Dev. [edit...looks like you beat me to it.]
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that cover is killer, everybody looks awesome and they're all jumping of the page to kick my nass!!!
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